2nd and 3rd sessions

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on August 18, 2010 at 4:29am

You don;t say what this issue is, so here is an example....
For smoking cessation they leave the first session a non-smoker. Also, before they leave I schedule the second session for 3-4 days later. Wh three days? That is when people get over the "hump". I do not tell them this is in case they relapse, but really this is why the second session exists. Most come back not smoking, the the second session is usually a time a celebration, with me adding some suggestions based on future growth. If they did relapse (a small number) we re-evaluate motivations, behaviors, relapse cues and begin again - and then this is the session they leave a nonsmoker....

In multiple sessions, I usually try to teach. I view hypnosis as a skill-building or teaching process.
So esentially each successive session is the next "class".
Rarely do I see people for more than 2-3 sessions. Long term weight clients more. But overall my viewpoint is, if change doesnt occur quickly with hypnosis it probably isn't.

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Permalink Reply by Pete & Lorraine on August 18, 2010 at 5:19am

Hi Mairi
Welcome to the forum. As Richard says you do not say what it's for. Generally we work 2-5 sessions the last 3 being focused on confidence building again depending on the client.
Ususally the end of a session should lead on to the next session until the work is competed ie your client is getting results,

Pete

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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on August 18, 2010 at 5:54am

On a seccond session, (and subsequent sessions) I would start by reviewing what happened in the previous session, and what has happened in between.

Signs of improvement?
questions arrising about the last session?
Clarification on goals.

If neccesarry re-iterate some of the pre induction discussion.

Think about what needs to happen next, and then tailor the session to fit the situation.

LOve and hugs,

Fable

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Permalink Reply by Mairi Smith on August 18, 2010 at 7:03am

Thank you so very much your insight has been invaluable to me and has brought me much more reassurance, one question woudl you use the same script as the first session just altering it a bit or would you start with a new script completely? thank you again
highest regards
mairi

Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com said:

You don;t say what this issue is, so here is an example....
For smoking cessation they leave the first session a non-smoker. Also, before they leave I schedule the second session for 3-4 days later. Wh three days? That is when people get over the "hump". I do not tell them this is in case they relapse, but really this is why the second session exists. Most come back not smoking, the the second session is usually a time a celebration, with me adding some suggestions based on future growth. If they did relapse (a small number) we re-evaluate motivations, behaviors, relapse cues and begin again - and then this is the session they leave a nonsmoker....

In multiple sessions, I usually try to teach. I view hypnosis as a skill-building or teaching process.
So esentially each successive session is the next "class".
Rarely do I see people for more than 2-3 sessions. Long term weight clients more. But overall my viewpoint is, if change doesnt occur quickly with hypnosis it probably isn't.

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Permalink Reply by Mairi Smith on August 18, 2010 at 7:04am

Thank you so very much your insight has been invaluable to me and has brought me much more reassurance, one question woudl you use the same script as the first session just altering it a bit or would you start with a new script completely? thank you again
highest regards
mairi



Peter Bateman & Lorraine Gleeson said:

Hi Mairi
Welcome to the forum. As Richard says you do not say what it's for. Generally we work 2-5 sessions the last 3 being focused on confidence building again depending on the client.
Ususally the end of a session should lead on to the next session until the work is competed ie your client is getting results,

Pete

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Permalink Reply by Mairi Smith on August 18, 2010 at 7:04am

HI Fable
Thank you so very much your insight has been invaluable to me and has brought me much more reassurance, one question woudl you use the same script as the first session just altering it a bit or would you start with a new script completely? thank you again
highest regards
mairi



Fable Goodman said:

On a seccond session, (and subsequent sessions) I would start by reviewing what happened in the previous session, and what has happened in between.

Signs of improvement?
questions arrising about the last session?
Clarification on goals.

If neccesarry re-iterate some of the pre induction discussion.

Think about what needs to happen next, and then tailor the session to fit the situation.

LOve and hugs,

Fable

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on August 18, 2010 at 7:26am

I would use a script as a guide. Now you will get into the "scripts are good vs. scripts are bad" debate. I teach and do use scripts in EVERY session. I set it up this way after the induction:

"You may hear me at times reading from a story, or even reading from some of my notes. The reason is simple, I do not want to miss anything that is important to you...."

Then I usually have a few notes or scripts which I may or may not actually read from. The reason is exactly as I have given them, I want to make sure I don;t miss anything. For clients it is quite reassuring to then hear a reading.
I do deviate from the script frequently, personalizing it, and discarding anything that is not relevant. Also, you must know the contents, patterns, words and meaning of every script very well in order to do this and sound natural.

There are times when I have had ten clients in a row. To do it all form memory is taxing on my mind, and frankly, anyone who says they never use scripts does miss a lot and probaly had issues with effectiveness - or they treat the exampt same type of client with a singular focus day in and day out. The scripts most often do not come from a book (although I do use John Cerbones book and my script book frequently) but rather come from my notes, when I ask the clients to identify their strengths, goals, and other information during the intake.

As for the induction, I rarely use any scripts, as I have done it so many times, but that being said, induction scripts often do not "match" a clients experience and for that reason should only be used as a guide for new therapists.

Since your profile is set to private and I could not provide the link, this DVD may be a great help to you: http://www.subliminalscience.com/hypnosis-training-resources-dvds-b...

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Permalink Reply by Mairi Smith on August 18, 2010 at 5:44pm

Richard
Thank you so so much, truly you have given me that boost that I needed. Being my first client tomorrow as you can imagine I am a bit nervous but after hearing what you have said on everything even the script I feel so much more confident, the nervous seemed to have vanished. I really like how you explained to your client about reading from the script and I will most likely do the same. Thank you again you truly have been a wealth of knowledge,and thank you for the link you sent I am going to go on that now and have a look
Warmest Regards

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on August 18, 2010 at 5:50pm

Sorry about the out of control hair in the video, I shot it on the fly last year.... I am sure I got a haircut the next day LOL

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Permalink Reply by Roy Hunter on August 21, 2010 at 7:21pm

I use suggestion and imagery on the client's first visit. However, when subconscious resistance exists, I use advanced techniques (such as regression and parts therapy) to discover the subconscious cause of the resistance...and then the remaining sessions are designed to help the client in a client centered manner.

If you are not trained in advanced techniques, it is wise to refer as appropriate.

Roy Hunter, PhD, FAPHP
www.royhunter.com

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