Extremely fast rapid inductions...

I had a discussion with a fellow hypnotherapist friend about rapid inductions, the sort you see the likes of Derren Brown do on TV where he seemingly puts someone under deep trance with just the shake of the hand. Another example he did was having a portrait of himself depicted as the devil painted on a fence with a hole in it, members of the public where curiously drawn to look through the hole after which they walked off, but one of these people upon peering through the hole immediately dropped to the ground in a trance. What I want to know is this, do these rapid inductions require priming before the show giving the person suggestions, or is it possible to hypnotise someone by these rapid techniques with no prior preparation? and if so can anyone do this with training or is it a knack/art that only a few can do?

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Permalink Reply by Mark Craig on October 7, 2008 at 2:28pm

I agree with John,

Perception is Projection. As long as people think you can drop them into trance in less than a second, and are willing to go, they'll go.

I personally prefer instant / rapid inductions.
Progressive inductions are great when you don't get the instant / rapid response, and then you can link them into the induction so that clients don't even realise that you started with a rapid induction anyway.

In other words, some inductions work well for some people, others work well for other people. If your client doesn't respond 1st time, be flexible.

Either way, cold instant inductions will work if you project your own confidence in them, and your client / subject picks up on it.

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Permalink Reply by John Bittner - Ocotillo Hypnosis on October 7, 2008 at 3:19pm

Another example he did was having a portrait of himself depicted as the devil painted on a fence with a hole in it, members of the public where curiously drawn to look through the hole after which they walked off, but one of these people upon peering through the hole immediately dropped to the ground in a trance.

Yes, I like Derren Brown, but just who is hypnotized here, you or the subject who drops to the ground? The suggestion, and your expectation, is that the subject drops to the ground in a trance. But what if when the subject looked through the holes in the fence he saw a sign reading, "We're filming for TV. If you fall to the ground, there's $100 in it for you."

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Permalink Reply by Justin James on October 7, 2008 at 5:10pm

Walking up and blindly telling someone to SLEEP! Carol is more likely to earn you a black eye then hypnotize someone...
Rapids work very well however even with the ONE second induction COUGH COUBSGH COUGH BSCOUGH sorry something caught in my throat there.. they still have to prep someone beforehand to do that .. Whether that is 30 seconds or 5 minutes.

To answer the rest of your question it is a trained skill..

Justin James

www.thehypnosiscompany.com

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Permalink Reply by Brian David Phillips on October 7, 2008 at 11:15pm

Speed hypnosis is absolutely WONDERFUL and I am not just saying that because a substantial part of my training business is teaching the stuff or selling my DVDs.

However, do keep in mind that while Derren does not use stooges like certain American street magicians with big budget shows :-) he almost never presents things as is. Many of the volunteers are pre-conditioned or vetted (notice so many of his "no such thing as hypnosis" statements are followed by a comment that the volunteers for certain shows were selected because they have an "open mind" and certain personality types . . . read that as suggestibility vetting). In some cases, Derren does use actual hypnosis in his psychological effects although nine times out of ten he does not. However, in those cased where actual suggestion is used, the volunteer is pre-hypnotized.

Alex mentioned Rajan and His Evil Hypnotists which while rather odd did at least establish that folks were prehypnotized before doing the oddball effects on the street. They were rather open and honest in their evilocity. I wish the show had been popular with the folks sharing on emule and the like, cough, cough, but alas it doesn't seem to be available anywhere outside of the UK.

Speed does indeed kill . . . in a good way . . . but . . . sometimes one does need to take one's time. For instance, use a nice rapid induction to get things started and then take your time with the therapy. You have a lot more time to do it well as you're not wasting so much of it on an induction.

All the best,
Brian
http://www.briandavidphillips.com

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Permalink Reply by Phillip aka HypnoGA on October 8, 2008 at 5:12am

I was at a local sci/fi fantasy convention where one of the program asked a friend of mine to do a hypnosis group session one night during it. During that session mention of rapid and speed inductions came up. Without any pretalk other than asking if she could touch the person, she had the person out under 5 seconds. Not sure of the exact timing of it.

The pretalk I was taught was necessary when doing therapeutic work and setting up the type of things for a stage show. It isn't necessary when dealing with someone that is already interested. This is just my opion

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Permalink Reply by Phillip aka HypnoGA on October 8, 2008 at 5:24am

At one time there were a couple of the shows on youtube, but broken down into two or three clips. The even show with a voice over some of the pre-antics trance for some of the people.

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Permalink Reply by John Cerbone - The Trance-Master on October 9, 2008 at 3:26pm

Don:
Yes, an extremely fast and directly to the point Pretalk.
Take a look of the videos I put up, the person you're about to hypnotize needs to know they need to sit back and the chair, they're wearing an imaginary seat belt, and how to follow let's say your fingers with their eyes and their head.
I have however walked up to total strangers in the audience, grabbed them by the wrist, put a finger into their face and said sleep, and out they went.
So in some cases, it's not completely necessary.
John

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Permalink Reply by John Cerbone - The Trance-Master on October 9, 2008 at 3:28pm

If the group has seen someone else Pretalked to, most of them will get it and will instantly go out. I have done graduation Lock-in stageshows, right after a very quick pretalk to an entire group to be hypnotized, and put them out in a matter of seconds each, sometimes, 2 at a time.

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Permalink Reply by John Cerbone - The Trance-Master on October 9, 2008 at 3:30pm

Most basic hypnosis courses do not teach speed Inductions.
In any training I provide, to new hypnotists, or even new stage hypnotists, I make sure they learn some of this.
It should be basic stuff, but it isn't.
John

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Permalink Reply by John Cerbone - The Trance-Master on October 9, 2008 at 3:31pm

Carol:
Been there, done that. . . thousands of times.
It's called a handshake induction. There are faster as well as slower ways to perform it.

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Permalink Reply by John Cerbone - The Trance-Master on October 9, 2008 at 3:36pm

I recently completed clinical training and added some Speed-Trance Inductions, to the training of an individual is also a member of this board.
Within three and a half hours, she was performing these like a pro. She was even making up her own derivatives.
In the classroom as a part of our class, when it was time for the individual students to practice, they all took to it like ducks to water.
There's a lot of mistreating fear around these techniques, do they exist or not? Do they always work? Can anyone learn them? What if they don't work?
I have also found over the years, that many who have learned these techniques have been taught an additional series of five or six or even seven steps, placed into the middle, to slow the process down dramatically.
when I have refined someone else's technique, I love to remove those steps, and freak out some of the people who've been at this for a long time, who thought those steps were necessary, when they weren't.