Does vibration serve as a carrier wave of sympathetic resonance between therapist and client?

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Permalink Reply by Leigh Spusta on September 13, 2008 at 6:59pm

Thank you, yes the voice is a quintessential example of this, wonderful! It is true that by being more in resonance with the client, we have to be more vigilant in not succumbing to transference and "taking the work home with you". I know that I am definately in an altered state when this resonance happens, probably hypersuggestible, possible pitfall if we aren't careful, but I think our intuition guides us well when it's working.

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Permalink Reply by Victoria Sieger on September 18, 2008 at 4:03pm

Yes, I know exactly what you mean. The effect of sound is really fasinating.

First of all, the induction is much easier if the right piece of brain sync music is played. No need to do the Arm Raising and all that. Once the client is calmed down the music can shift them into an Alpha state within a few minutes and then into Theta in 10 minutes or so ( maybe you can do it faster!) All I do is have them focus on their breathing, listen to the music and do a modified Progression and 90% of the time they easily glide into trance. And very happily so!

The challenge is to not go so deep yourself that you can't lead the session. It is quite easy to get wrapped up in the music and the info you are receiving. And as Adee said, then you tend to lose your pacing etc.

So, I try to use the first session for information gathering and then not to go into trance - light or otherwise- myself from then on. Establishing this intuitive bridge at the beginning makes a big difference in the level of rapport as well as figuring out what is really going on and how to help. It is almost shamanistic. But instead of using drugs we are using sound.

BTW, I use your CD's Leigh, as well as a few from Hemi-Sync and Steve Halpern in my sessions.

Here is a recent example. A 40 year old woman asked me to help her overcome her fear of driving over bridges. She said she had had an experience of flying off the freeway when she was 20 and thought that memory was the root of the problem. Everything else in her life was just great she said! Had I not gotton her really deep and developed this intuitive resonance with her on the first session it would have taken me several sessions to figure out the real problem was that she was making a major transition in her life and was afraid of leaving the past behind. I probably would have done a desensitization on her but instead I used the Bridge as a metaphor for the script with one side of the Bridge as the past and the other as the future. Because the whole thing had NOTHING to do with the accident. What was interesting was that the music made her go so deep that she only vaguely remembered the suggestions I have her. But, who cares, it worked! SURE.....I could have talked to her for hours and gotton her to open up and tell me all about her life. But it wasn't necessary because the Intuitive Bridge created by the music let me in the back door.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on September 18, 2008 at 6:23pm

Hi Leigh,

Several years ago, I played a Peter Blum singing bowl CD through the office sound system of a medical/healing center where I was working -- that night as we were closing shop the practitioners were buzzing about how Blum's CD impacted how they were connecting to their patients and clients that day --- It became the center's theme music


Before working with clients, I move into the my tuning the client resource state -- Happy Heart, Peaceful/Quiet Mind and Playful Spirit. I feel the "vibe" and project it, imagining the feeling is a bridge that connects me to the client, state to state -- I like to think of it as "Ellnerian Entrainment"

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Permalink Reply by Leigh Spusta on September 18, 2008 at 11:45pm

Thank you for sharing! Vicki, you hit the nail on the head - "It is almost shamanistic. But instead of using drugs we are using sound." I couldn't agree with you more. I keep arriving at the conclusion that sound can be used as spiritual technology! I have been developing something that I am referring to as "sonic imprints", templates of vibration that allow the subject to shift into various states, like entrainment but perhaps a step beyond, but we will see...

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Permalink Reply by Leigh Spusta on September 18, 2008 at 11:55pm

Hi Michael, I really like Peter's stuff, - he is on this site - the experience you describe in the medical center is awesome, totally proves the point. Intention + Vibration = Manifestation!

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Permalink Reply by Victoria Sieger on September 19, 2008 at 9:00am

Sonic imprints - interesting!!!! That will be soooo helpful. You are already shifting peoples vibration with your music so if you could isolate what moves them from one state to another and develop packages of sound...(you are calling these "imprints" - right?) - then I for one want to add this to my CD's!!!

Have you done the "Gateway Experience" (GE) with the Monroe Institute? Robert Monroe's whole thing was OBE and Soul Travel using sound vibration as a catalyst. Once you get past the intro stages of his program...up to say FOCUS 27...things start to get pretty exciting. Hemi-Sync's brain synchronization stuff is really good but the shrill tones in the GE are not very pleasant to listen to. I wonder if they have developed another technology? This is basically the same thing you are after- yes?

Monroe was fasinated by Dolphins and their holographic sonar method of communication. I think he was onto something there. Lots of people have added Dolphin sounds to their recordings but I don't know if anyone has actually developed a method of capturing the essence of that sound. People, like Joan Ocean in Kona,Hawaii, claim that Dolphins are helping us to change our vibrational frequency through tones, direct rays of light and adjustments in our belief systems.
Hmmm....adjust and expand our belief systems...sounds like what we are trying to do with hypnosis! Monroe thought Dolphins were facilitating soul travel using sound. I wonder!

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Permalink Reply by Victoria Sieger on September 19, 2008 at 3:07pm

Yes, indeed, Trish!
Do you know about The Bonny Method of GIM/music therapy? Sounds like it would be right up your alley with your musical talent. Here are a few links.
http://www.musicandimagery.com/index_files/Page723.htm

http://www.archedigm.com/bonny.html

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Permalink Reply by Leigh Spusta on September 22, 2008 at 1:06am

Hi Vicki,

Yes, you are totally in tune with what I am working on! I have listened to some of the Monroe stuff, which definately works, I need to commit myself to the program, I think I got up to Focus 0, maybe 1. The the sonar idea is provocative, btw,if you slow down a recording of dolphins enough times, at varying points they sound like other life, human, monkeys, whales...

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Permalink Reply by Victoria Sieger on September 24, 2008 at 9:33am

You are kidding me....dolphins slowed down sound like other life forms? That is very strange because I thought they were communicating at a Higher Frequency...which is faster- right?

A former engineer of the the Monroe Institute told me that in the higher levels of the Gateway Experience (GE) they electronically produced Dolphin sounds ( this sounds like tuning forks to me) to stimulate out-of-body experiences.

David Morehouse, he was a psychic spy for the CIA and wrote the book "Psychic Warrior", said that the government would use these same tones to trigger remote viewing. He actually warned me against doing the GE program because he said the CIA was too involved in the Monroe Institute and you don't really know how they are messing with your mind. The Engineer said that the program is perfectly safe but that the CIA was recruiting psychics for various programs in the days Morehouse was referring to. So, I don't know...personally I found the program to be beneficial. My intuition was hightened afterwards, for sure, and I experienced astral travelling as well.

I think they are stimulating the pineal gland with sound. Some MD's would tell you that makes you hallucinate. It didn't feel that way to me. I can only think that if the Russian and US governments were in on this as far back as the 50's there is more to it than hallucination.

Seems like we are off track from discussing hypnosis but I think anything to do with expanding consciousness is related.

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Permalink Reply by Leigh Spusta on September 28, 2008 at 10:15pm

Hi Vicki,

It would definately be neat to chat with you about all this stuff. My office in Chatsworth is opening this week, maybe you'd like to come down and check it out? Have you heard any news from your channeling friend?

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Permalink Reply by Victoria Sieger on October 3, 2008 at 12:07pm

Sure, love to! Where is your office?
Will see Shawn on Monday night and see what is up with her CD's.
Vicki

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on October 3, 2008 at 12:40pm

Hi Leigh-

I'm thinking that the new research below might be of interest and food for future discussions

Warmest regards,

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/544915/?sc=dwhr;xy=5037405
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Supporting what many of us who are not musically talented have often felt, new research reveals that trained musicians really do think differently than the rest of us. Vanderbilt University psychologists have found that professionally trained musicians more effectively use a creative technique called divergent thinking, and also use both the left and the right sides of their frontal cortex more heavily than the average person.

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