ADVICE ON HELPING MY DAUGHTER WHO HAS FALLEN PREY TO SEXUAL SEDUCTION NLP/HYPNOSIS

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Permalink Reply by Gaye Wilson on September 7, 2009 at 8:09am

Hi Sheridan,
I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter's situation--it must be frightening and disheartening to you as well. My experience with this kind of "immersion" into another person has shown that starting with any kind of EFT-type of process (energy psychology/meridian stimulation) helps to dampen the intense emotions. Also, it is a process the person can easily learn and apply themselves whenever they need/want to.
Then, gently taking the person on a journey of rediscovering the Self seems to be helpful; one can only be swallowed up by another if one is of little substance oneself! I have found it helpful to offer various processes to invite the woman to grow herself back up into the strong, independent, loving, caring, SELF LOVING/CARING woman she has always been meant to be.
It may be that you are too much MOTHER to be hypnotherapist; perhaps you can enlist a colleague to work with her on trade or a "professional discount"? In any event, I hope this helps even a little; I will hold you & your daughter in my heart and thoughts. Oh, and getting her some Reiki would be useful as well; I offer it to all of my clients, but especially those that have had this kind of profound separation from Self.

All the best. Do keep me/us posted.
Blessings,
gaye

Permalink Reply by Sebastian on September 7, 2009 at 8:10am

I have a large library of these seduction techniques and they involve NLP style techniques to create positive feelings in the target towards the practitioner. By and large there should be no negative complications such as described however the case shows severe abreactions to the techniques employed.

As the techniques are direct NLP suggestions they can be countered by discovering and collapsing the anchors that have been established. The abreaction is most likely a subconsciously created negative affirmation created unknowningly by the practitioner based on some situation outside his control at the time and shows a lack of understanding on his part as to how these techniques work. IE: creating an anchor for attraction/affection while being intoxicated and about to vomit may therefore explain the abreaction.

I am not saying that this is definitely the case, simply attempting an explanation. Subsequent investigation will reveal the real cause and enable this to be fixed. If you are yourself a hypnotherapist you must not attempt to fix this yourself. Your emotional and actual proximity to your daughter makes this not only unethical but also impractical. There may also be issues she may feel uncomfortable confiding in you, so find a trusted professional and approach it in that way.

If you need further assistance please feel free to contact me directly.

Permalink Reply by Michael Haifleigh on September 7, 2009 at 8:13am

Sheridan,

You may be to close to the "issue" and the "client". This may prevent adequate rapport.
I recommend that you recommend to your daughter to work with a Hypnosis Practitioner in her area. If she finds this is not assisting her in making the changes she is looking for, I would recommend she work with a Psychologist.

What may be most helpful is to not “help” too much.

Additionally, make sure you are taking care of yourself.

Michael

Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on September 7, 2009 at 8:24am

Hi Sheridan,

I can'r see anything from what you have typed, that suggests the boyfriend had been on any training to seduce women, So I windering if there is a lot you ahve not mentioned, or reading what you have mentioned, it seems like a pretty average situation to me where she is infatuated by, and has hooked up with someone who is not perfect...

What leads you to imagine there is anything more to this, and that anything more than normal love and support from friends and familly is required..

I am taking at read, that you don't like the chap, so nothing unusual there.


You say it breaks your heart to see her like this... Have you sought counselling for yourself? Rather than thinking about using hyposis with your daughter. To me, from what you have said, it looks like you are over reacting to the very normal situation of your beloved daughter struggling to learn about realtionships. Are you passing your distress on the your daughter? Perhaps at 23 she simply needs to space to explore how she is in relationship, and come to her own decisions as to if , when or how, she might resolve this particular one.

I hope you get some support to help you with your worries.

Love and hugs,

Fable

Permalink Reply by Jill Semonin PhD- CHt on September 7, 2009 at 9:12am

I have to agree... step back just a little and pay attention without interfering. I know my children come to me for a lot, and they break down, because I am their momma and they feel safe to do so. Then they return to their lives and harden up for others. We all go through trials and tribulations of heart felt pain from thinking it was true love or something more than it was. It's how we learn about who we are, what we want and eventually these lessons help us find the real one. I know it hurts in the process. Pheromones alone are hypnotic and NLP is a part of natural life. However; None of them are good enough to have that much total control over someone with out them wanting it. Seduction happens all the time and people get hurt. I have been hurt a lot and dropped into a deep depression over some of the past relationship mistakes I learned a lot from, but I thought were good at the time and weren't. If she is not dealing with everyday tasks well, I also agree that she should see an outside non-involved therapist. Whether it be hypnotherapy, or psychology. However, before thinking that is needed, let her experience this and grow. It's her cycle of learning. If she does it well, she will become stronger. If she doesn't cope well, then suggest she bring in unbiased support to help her through this rough time.

I hope this helps~
Jill

Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on September 7, 2009 at 9:47am

Who are you... Why are you here ,.. and why are you asking a bunch of strangers with whom you have never interacted before to solve your daughters emotional issues ? For a hypnotherapist you seem to have an odd perception about what a young man can do if trained in these less than scrupulous but widely available trainings? Perhaps you should take the training and reverse engineer what he might have done ,,, that is if you believe that stuff is real. Personally I would consider a differant option than the one that says he his put her under his mystical hypno aura. Perhaps you could post sme additional information on the trainings you refer to and someone here might have more information about it.

Hugh Cole

Permalink Reply by Leshem Yosef on September 7, 2009 at 9:54am

Even its hypno web I recommended very fast help
Homopathic med. named ignatia
Just buy ignatia 30c take 3 times a day until 80% relief
Its probably aggravate the bad filing for a day but after great relief
yosef

Permalink Reply by Leshem Yosef on September 7, 2009 at 9:57am

Sorry I forgot
No to drink coffee with the homeopathic med. Its just wont work
leshem yosef said:

Even its hypno web I recommended very fast help
Homopathic med. named ignatia
Just buy ignatia 30c take 3 times a day until 80% relief
Its probably aggravate the bad filing for a day but after great relief
yosef

Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on September 7, 2009 at 10:27am

I don't see anyting here related to a Svengali like intentional use of hypnosis or nlp.
Perhaps you need to supply more information to have people respond from the same vantage point you are seeing things.
Generally though, 99% of people, unless there is a prexisting psychological lack of ego strenght do not become the victims of unethical uses of hypnosis or NLP. I think in general we give way to much credit to the abilities of the 'dark side" of hypnosis. Sure it is possible that one can use hypnotic methods to abuse a person, but then you are usually talking about an anti-social personality taking advantage of a depenent personality type and the same abuse would occur without hypnosis.
I see it much like others do. You cannot evalute the situation from a neutral or detached perspective. Eveyone (myself included) have had bad relationships. Going thorugh the process of learning to detach, become self-sufficiant and manage interpersonal stressors are all normal aspects of relationship development. They are what make us healthy people in many cases. As a parent of young adults, I too stress about the pain they must experience, because I have already learned those lessons and don't want to see them experience the pain I have. But that is not how life works. All of us have to learn through experience. Those experiences may come form an emotionally damaging spouse, boyfriend, employer, crazy neighbor, or difficult teacher. But this is life. I hope she, and my children and myself all can avoid pain or consequences of these relationships, but in most cases it is simply the process of life.
If she is at a point where she is unable to manage the emotions without physical symptoms, and cannot participate in life in a meanigful way any longer, she will need professional help to assist her in developing ego strength, autonomy and a sense of self-identity. I would refer her to a competant professional who is detached from the situation, and skilled at female relationship issues like a family therapist.

Permalink Reply by Sheila Dudley, CHt on September 7, 2009 at 11:05am

Sheridan, if your daughter were my client, I would hypnotically connect her with her Higher Self and do a Disentanglement Session around this man. I agree with others about reinforcing her self-esteem and self-worth, but inside of a Disentanglement, by reconnecting her to her higher self. I would then place an NLP 'bubble' around her with all the strength and health she needs, then 'program' a button for it on the top of her non-dominant hand. If a Past Life Regression hasn't been done, I would also consider doing that second or third session.

Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on September 7, 2009 at 12:23pm

Hello Sheridan,

I am sorry to hear that, and I have read your post and I do not understand how your daughter situation is related to being a victim of sexual seduction? It seems that your daughter is suffering from relationship crisis, or even rejection due to insecurity, it also seems that she is playing the role of the pleaser when he is around, and when he is gone, she becomes the victim...

This is not a fact, since I have not talked to your daughter, but this is only my understandings from your post.

I honestly recommend you and your daughter to see a psychologist and a hypnotherapist to work on this issues.

PS: I understand as a Mother you want the best for your daughter, but you are not helping by trying to accuse her partner and making her feel guilty and bad for her choices, if she is continually crying and throwing up, it can be because she is upset for her situation and seeing you upset makes her feel bad and or she could be pregnant.

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
www.EnterYourMind.com

Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on September 7, 2009 at 12:36pm

Dear Yosef,

what are you selling? what this information have to do with Sheridan request for help?
And how is homeopathic med going to work on an emotional issues and crisis in relationship that are part of an old habit or behavior?

Just curious, Thanks.

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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