Brainwave states = hypnosis level?

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Permalink Reply by Ricky Strode on March 25, 2012 at 9:14pm

Brainwaves are brainwaves and hypnosis is hypnosis. 

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Permalink Reply by Barry Neale on March 25, 2012 at 11:12pm

Hi

I have posted on this several times. There is no relationship between these brain wave levels and hypnosis. I would disagree with your statement "There is a big acceptance in the field that brain wave states = to hypnosis" Many experienced hypnotists and training schools disagree with this theory also.  

Kein is right. If you have a client reliving/recalling a high intensity state their brain wave activity will be off the scale. Does that mean they are not in hypnosis?

 

What about the stage hypnosis client dancing about the stage doing his best Elvis impression?

 

Hypnosis is NOT relaxation.

 

barry 

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Permalink Reply by HP NAMBRON on March 26, 2012 at 1:09am

in my openion, hypnosis is the process of accessing the right hemisphere and its continued functioning with its full fledge operations ,with the help of relaxing or reducing brain waves to make the left/ analytical side. so in the initial stage only, this alpha and theta  brain waves playing big role of suppressing analytical and rational part of left side. s in hypnosis right half is the leader and left half is the follower. in real life lft is leader and right is follower. i like to get feed back of my openion so that i can inprove my insight. thanks 

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on March 26, 2012 at 1:56am

Hi Amik-

I agree with Barry, Ricky and Gerry -  There is no signature brainwave state for hypnosis.

Like Barry, I do not  believe that brainwaves=hypnosis is widely accepted in the field .You can bet the farm that the R-brain/L-brain model is no longer  accepted by science --  

By the way, GAMMA brain wave states seem to correlate to making changes and transformation...

Hi HP,

Right brain/Left brain is a effective MODEL for helping clients understand that we are asking them to do something instead of thinking about doing it -- 

Science has moved from the right brain-left brain model to the new and improved Plasticity model which reflects the way the two hemispheres compensate for each other  if and when necessary.

Michael E.

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Permalink Reply by H.Y.P.N.O.S.I.S. on March 26, 2012 at 8:08am

Although Hypnosis when defined as an unconscious brain state and Trance when defined as a semi- or subconscious brain state, can be correlated to brain wave activity, saying that any particular brain wave signifies the hypnotic condition in itself is a bit oversimplifying things. This would be akin to claiming that the Aaron's scale accurately defines a particular hypnotic depth. It is best, IMO, to use these maps as a general guide to better understanding the features of hypnosis, not its exact nature, for its precise definition is yet to be agreed upon.

I'll offer my interpretation (as posted online) from a practitioner's perspective:

What is Hypnosis?
Hypnosis is a scientifically verified and effective technique whereby the critical faculties of the participant’s dominant thinking brain are bypassed while selective acceptable ideas, concepts and thoughts are introduced via the participant’s predominant intuitive mind: the realm of imagination, intuition and creativity. 

Hypnosis relies on the duality of directed focused attention and associated effortless concentration with verbal commands in order to heighten ones suggestibility so that the participant readily, willingly and spontaneously engages in, as requested to so, the unconscious act of performing particular tasks. 

Hypnosis is the releasing, surrendering and letting go of mental attachments. It is a freeing experience and allows one to be open to suggestions. Simply put, "Hypnosis is an orchestrated shift from conscious to unconscious awareness."

In short: Heal Your Predicament Naturally Optimizing Sound Imagined Suggestions

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Permalink Reply by Amik on March 26, 2012 at 8:16am

Thank you all who replied here!

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Permalink Reply by Don G. on March 27, 2012 at 2:23am

The myth that brain waves equal different states of hypnosis is one of the biggest sacred cows around.

Brain waves only indicate the number of brain cells that are firing at a given time. If you ask someone who is hooked up to an EEG machine to multiply 17 x 35 in their mind, the machine goes crazy because they are using a lot of brain cells to do the work. When someone is very deeply asleep, long, slow brain waves come out. In the everyday waking state, different patterns alternate with one another. 

The answer is as close as a Google Search. 

Moo

Don

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Permalink Reply by H.Y.P.N.O.S.I.S. on March 27, 2012 at 4:39am

Rereading the text found below, I noticed two errors and adjusted them in bold letters:

Hypnosis relies on the duality of directed focused attention and associated effortless concentration with verbal commands in order to heighten ones suggestibility such that the participant readily, willingly and spontaneously engages in, as requested to do so, the unconscious act of performing particular tasks.

AJ said:

Although Hypnosis when defined as an unconscious brain state and Trance when defined as a semi- or subconscious brain state, can be correlated to brain wave activity, saying that any particular brain wave signifies the hypnotic condition in itself is a bit oversimplifying things. This would be akin to claiming that the Aaron's scale accurately defines a particular hypnotic depth. It is best, IMO, to use these maps as a general guide to better understanding the features of hypnosis, not its exact nature, for its precise definition is yet to be agreed upon.

I'll offer my interpretation (as posted online) from a practitioner's perspective:

What is Hypnosis?
Hypnosis is a scientifically verified and effective technique whereby the critical faculties of the participant’s dominant thinking brain are bypassed while selective acceptable ideas, concepts and thoughts are introduced via the participant’s predominant intuitive mind: the realm of imagination, intuition and creativity. 

Hypnosis relies on the duality of directed focused attention and associated effortless concentration with verbal commands in order to heighten ones suggestibility so that the participant readily, willingly and spontaneously engages in, as requested to so, the unconscious act of performing particular tasks. 

Hypnosis is the releasing, surrendering and letting go of mental attachments. It is a freeing experience and allows one to be open to suggestions. Simply put, "Hypnosis is an orchestrated shift from conscious to unconscious awareness."

In short: Heal Your Predicament Naturally Optimizing Sound Imagined Suggestions

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