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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on January 30, 2009 at 11:17am

I will haelp anyone with a sincere desire to quit, and I will use the methods that have peoven effectice for thsoe with similar situations. And although I might EXPOSE my religious bias, there is absolutely no reason to IMPOSE our biases or belief on the clients treatment plan. My job isn;t really to get people into heaven or hell, it is to help them make healthy life changes so they will be around long enough to make up there own mind...
P.S., is the Luciferian paying in cash? LOL
Richard

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Permalink Reply by Joshua Johnston on January 30, 2009 at 11:21am

If a Luciferian is what I think it is, I'd aim a fire extinguisher at it. ;)

If it's not what I think it is, then they'd be just another client. And treated with respect, helped to quit smoking, etc. Like Richard said already, my religious bias might possibly be exposed, but I wouldn't seek to use the therapeutic environment to evangelize.

Joshua

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Permalink Reply by the grumpy hypnotist on January 30, 2009 at 12:08pm

If a Luciferian were to suddenly appear in my office, I would agree to help him quit smoking as long as he taught me that power of teleportation in exchange. Then I would include some variant of High Road/Low Road metaphor --- the Low Road ("stick") would emphasize the powerlessness that smokers feel, how smoking conflicts with their view of themselves by representing weak behavior that sheep ("prey") engage in, etc. Not much different than standard client, except with more emphasis on certain aspects that would appeal to this type.

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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig - HypnosisAustin on January 30, 2009 at 4:08pm

I'd quote him my prices and do my very best to help him stop smoking. Duh. I'd do the same thing for a Christian, despite their history of killing my fellow Pagans. *wink* I mean, it's been quite a while since they ripped Hypatia limb from limb in the streets of Alexandria, and I'm ready to let bygones be bygones. :-)

To me, a more pressing question is this: What would you do if a convicted child molester came to your office, asking to get over his low self-esteem? I may have to actually deal with this issue before too much longer, while the Luciferian population in my neck of the woods is pretty low.

James

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on January 30, 2009 at 5:16pm

My answer to this is a bit tongue in cheek.

First, wondering how I would know my client was a Luciferian (I don't make it a habit to ask religious preferences)
Second, I would realize that his right to practice the religion of choice is protected by the Constitution of the United States,
Third, would "suddenly appearing" be like in a puff of smoke? So for him to quit smoking mean he needs a fire extinguisher?
Lastly, wondering why Christian hypnotists are singled out as generically having issues with other religions, say more than any of the other religions? Christians have the story of the Good Samaritan to follow. (Samaritans were depicted as a godless race of liars)

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on January 30, 2009 at 8:47pm

It's okay to forgive - but let's not forget why they ripped our beloved Hypatia limb from limb--

She got it -- So they gave it to her--

"I don't know whether the world is run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Hypatia

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on January 30, 2009 at 8:49pm

If a Luciferian were to suddenly appear in my office - I'd have him schedule an appointment just like every body else--

I'm imagining a Luciferian is kinda like a devil in dredlocks - "I want to give up da weed mon!"

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Permalink Reply by Rob Pickett on January 30, 2009 at 9:54pm

A Luciferian? Since when did we stop calling them Satanists? Is "Satanist" now politically incorrect or something? Or is it just chichi to say "Luciferian"?

Anyway, I'm an atheist and a person's religious belief is of no concern to me unless it directly impacts the therapy. I've always had a problem with people that hang their sign out to the public and then discriminate against other people's value systems. There is just something that tastes wrong about that.

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Permalink Reply by Graham Old on January 31, 2009 at 2:32am

'Lastly, wondering why Christian hypnotists are singled out as generically having issues with other religions, say more than any of the other religions?'

I wondered that, as well. So, James' question about the convicted child molester is more pertinent to me. If we're human, we're all gonna have clients that we 'struggle' with.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Haifleigh on January 31, 2009 at 6:34am

light sleeper,

I suppose it depends on whether this person considered themselves a Gnostic Luciferian, Traditional Luciferian, or Modern Luciferian.

Michael

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Permalink Reply by Donna Carter on January 31, 2009 at 7:21am

When I see questions or conversations like this...I can't help but get sucked back into the 'what is real' issue. Because what is real to me isn't real to someone else. So, a Lucifer to me - may not be a Lucifer to someone else - depending on their reality, right?

So, with that kind logic - if a Luciferian were to suddenly appear in my office, it is good to assume that he/she has done something to make it known "to me" that they are Lucifer. I suppose...I would have to refer them OUT to someone who might be more helpful than I would be. Considering, my energy and his/hers would not be in sync, so how much help would I be, really? Or not really...

~~D.

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on January 31, 2009 at 7:25am

LOL!! Dot Vus a Goot Vun!

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