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Hi everyone,
Good holidays, first of all.
I've been pondering on this question since 'THE BEGINNING." I probably have every book on hypnosis and many trainings. Nobody covers this. I wanted to put the data together but I've never gotten around to it.
I put a question to someone in a thread recently and realized that I had never really found the answers myself. When we ask someone for scripts, they often give us 'scripts' but never a real explanation, such as if a person comes to me and is in pain (for instance), which would be the suggested techniques, listed by name hopefully. Why would you pick Parts? What are you trying to accomplish.
As a beginner, I searched for this answer to this question. Everything I found was sketchy at best. What I observed as a beginner was the there were tons of script books that had different techniques as a part of the script. The answers to my question always had to be inferred.
I would also like to formulate this question by using a word that I learned from John C: a macro. As John explained something to me, he told me that in computer language, a 'macro' is kind of a shortcut, number on a speed dial, "when you want to accomplish A, you use a combination of A plus B plus C and you can call it a macro." I hope I've understood it correctly.
I've also heard these little outlines or snippets called "Patterns." That works also.
For purposes of this discussion, I'm going to call these "macros." If I'm wrong or if there's a better word, I'm open to it.
We have inductions, we have ratifiers, deepeners and we have termination of trance but we do not have 'formulas' or even names for specific techniques that accomplish certain things. In other words, formulas for the "middle" of our hypnosis scripts, an outline that says "use A when you want to accomplish B.".
We have a few: parts therapy to discover what motivations are in conflict, which case the client to waver and not be able to move forward. Part of the Parts Therapy Macro would to help clients become aware of the specific drives that are in conflict and how to mold them into cooperation.
We have the NLP swish, designed to take old, outmoded behavior, make it less significant and let the preferred behavior become stronger. For instance, if a client needs to become motivated, the swish will help the person to squish the old, lazy, procrastination behavior into nothingness or into being outweighed and make the desired behavior to be stronger, brighter, bigger, bolder.
We have the High Road, Low Road for choosing a new and higher path. We have many, many. Could you share some of your favorite "Intervention Macros," with the outline of the technique and your rationale for using it in a particular script?
We have Fast Phobia Cure, which is a form of taking the traumatic event, dissociating from it, by watching yourself watch yourself watching a movie of the event running backwards, etc.
Those are a couple. There are tons and tons of those kinds of 'treatment outlines" that we piece together to effect certain changes in behavior or experience.
What I'm trying to accomplish is to find out how you select your particular favorite "Intervention Macros," what you're hoping to accomplish, the desired change you hope to effect, why you use it, when you use it, what it accomplishes.
The reason I want to do this is to give us a way to free ourselves from other people's prewritten scripts and to understand our own reasons for choosing "A= change of behavior" "B=removes fear" "C=reframing for more correct perception," so we that can apply them better more precisely.
Kind of like a MD might prescribe an anticiotic for an infection, a specific antibiotic for a specific kind of infection, a blood thinner to avoid clotting, Vit K. to help clotting, an antianxiety medication for extreme anxiety, antispasmodic to stop spasms, pain meds to ease pain, etc.
This kind of rationale is required of all health professionals. Let's create some specifics for hypnotherapy.
Perhaps this discussion and aggregating of information can become an explanation of how we create or select the 'middle' part of hypnosis, which is where the therapy lies.
I hope that makes sense. If anything thinks they can describe or define it better, please do so. I think if we accomplish this, we will have come a long way towards answer the eternal questions of how do I build the therapy part of the script so that I can become freer from other people's scripts.
I don't even care if your contribution is taken from another script. In fact, most of what we come up with will be precisely that, but if it could be: 1) This is what I use to create X change, 2) this is why I use this, and 3) what it accomplishes.
BTW: When I ask a question like this of the group, I often ask contributors NOT to include regressions because my feeling about regressions is that the results are still too dicey. In this discussion, though, I'd like to see everything you guys have ever found that works for you, in which you can explain the "Macro," what you use it for, which you find that it accomplishes.
I'm hoping that our community Elders will share freely. We know who they are and they know who they are. If you've been doing this for quite some years and have had accomplishments that you can sharer, please, please, please share with us.
Hopefully this discussion can become as valuable as the Script bank and if it forms into a good bit of educational information, we can title it after Hypnothoughts and Scott.
Thanking all contributors in advance. I will look for more to share. Who will share first?
Susan
ps: if we get good response, let's move this discussion into a group so that we can continue to expand our information, etc.
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Permalink Reply by Joe K Fobes on December 10, 2011 at 3:01pm @Susan
Here's my take. It might very well tick you off, and I do assure you that is not my primary intention.
I've seen you post here on HT for a few years. As a 'pattern noticer' I have noticed a pattern of you asking questions that pretty much revolve around this main theme presented in this post.
Basically 'how can I get effective results'.
The pattern then continues into you getting truckloads of good advice, and being very grateful for that advice, and highly praising that advice.
A few months later the pattern repeats.
And so now there's only one question to ask.
Have you been getting better results over the last few years based on all that?
If yes, keep rolling with these questions. Keep sticking your neck out and asking them.
If not, well then it would make sense to assume that the issue with you not getting the results you want isn't what you think it is. And so looking for 'more of the same' is akin to trying to count to the highest number (or trying for certainty in the world of someone with OCD). Every new page of even higher numbers feels like you're making progress. After all, you now have numbers that go past 9 digits!
The only issue is that it's a hopeless goal, and each page of new numbers that raise your spirit only suck you further into that mindset.
Kinda like an addiction...
Now I'm not saying this is 'trying to count to the highest number'. I'm only saying that it very well might be. The test is 'have my results gotten better in the past after this type of pattern has played itself out'.
And so have they?
If they have, keep going.
If not, well then it's time to look for the answers within.
How?
I would suggest working with someone who uses 'clean language' and 'symbolic modeling' (not just getting the book and trying to self-apply, I'm talking about actually booking sessions and the like). It can be very helpful in recognizing and breaking out of these repeating patterns and mindsets.
Joe
Permalink Reply by Susan French on December 10, 2011 at 3:18pm Joe,
I wondered when you were going to slither in. As I recall you're the jerk who likes to make negative and provocative statements not relevant to the discussion designed only to piss people off..
1)I didn't ask for your take or opinion especially as it pertains to your 'take' on me personally. I asked for information. Had you bothered to read with some positive intention, you would have read that.
2) If you had read, you would have discovered that I already had my answer but that's not why you commented.
3) I had forgotten I could close the discussion.
3) I had forgotten that though are so many wonderful, well-meaning, truly helpful people here, there are you few who like to "f*rt in the living room" like annoying infants with nothing of value to add to any discussion
and
4) I had forgotten that i can moderate comments so that I can avoid irritating gnats like you.
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