click deepener

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on March 2, 2009 at 10:06am

Hi Orr,

Well, In my case it is like an automatic sugestions, like saying Deep sleep, I also tell my clients each and every time I snap my finger or say Deep Sleep, you will instantly go deeper.. just a suggestions.. not sure how others use it for, but this is how I do it.

I also received Richard Nongard's Stage Hypnosis CD's, and If you didn't get it by now? I heighly recomand them to you and to whom ever wants to practice Stage Hypnosis....last time we chated, I didn't have it, now that I have it, you will be happy with too.

Doreen

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Permalink Reply by Karen Lockman on March 2, 2009 at 10:10am

Hello Orr:
The finger snap is just a way to distract the conscious mind as you give suggestions of "sleep" or going deeper which then go into the subconscious while the conscious mind is still distracted.
Karen

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Permalink Reply by Reg Blackwood - The Quicknotist on March 2, 2009 at 10:17am

Hey Orr,
There's also a deepener which involves:
A click to the left ear.
A click to the right ear.
A click above the head.
A click below the chin.
Repeated, varying the positions.

I believe this works on a disorienting principle, similar to head rotation.

Reg
http://quicknotist.com

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Permalink Reply by Pattie Freeman CH.t, MST on March 2, 2009 at 9:39pm

Hi Orr,

This is to help the client go quick into a deeper sleep it helps with the suggestions...I agree with everyone here about the snapping of the fingers techniques.

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Permalink Reply by Elisabeth Klein on March 3, 2009 at 1:14pm

I assume you are referring to stage hypnosis. You may find it interesting to know that this type of "shock" hypnosis works rather simply when used in an appropriate situation. It works something like this. If you were to be driving along and suddenly you hear the loud sound of an auto accident. Your attention would be instantly re-focused. You would instantly for a split second be wondering what this sound is. It is that split second that you are most receptive. Your are searching for answers to the sound. Weeks later you may experience anxiety when passing the same spot. A type of post hypnotic suggestion, if you will. You remember and react to the previous state.

Confusion even for a split second can create the state needed to induce trance. This is just my take on it please take what of it you will.

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Permalink Reply by Roy Hunter on March 3, 2009 at 2:20pm

This is based on training the client to respond automatically to the trigger of the finger clicking (or finger snap) once the suggestion is anchored into the subconscious. While some hypnotists use this type of auditory deepening technique with good results, NO technique works for all the people all the time.

When I am the client, finger clicking (or finger snapping) brings me right up OUT of hypnosis, as I am very auditory and do not like finger snapping. This does not mean that you shouldn't use an auditory technique for deepening; just realize that it might have an opposite effect for some of the people some of the time.

Roy Hunter, M.S., FAPHP
www.royhunter.com

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on March 3, 2009 at 4:13pm

That is true, I agree with Roy... and I was going to write about it later, since I was too busy, thanks for pointing this out... I am one of the people who will be out of hypnosis with finger clicking (or finger snapping for me) since it does brings me right up OUT of hypnosis, unless i was really really deep, then even an elephant walking on me wont make any difference.
Usually people who do not like to be touched by strangers, will resist the finger snapping or touching as well.

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Reg Blackwood - The Quicknotist on March 3, 2009 at 7:29pm

Good points Roy and Doreen, but I find this kind of startle response can be minimised/utilised by correctly suggesting how the finger snaps will be perceived, just before the clicking begins.
In the version I describe, it's not the clicks that cause the mental confusion/disorienting effect, it's the postion of those clicking fingers and the client not knowing where/when they're coming from next.

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Permalink Reply by Roy Hunter on March 3, 2009 at 10:13pm

For me, it does not matter HOW the suggestions are worded for the finger snap. It creates a negative emotional response that will always bring me out of trance.

Remember, we must facilitate CLIENT-centered hypnosis rather than hypnotist-centered trances if we are to truly empower our clients.

Roy Hunter, M.S., FAPHP
Certified Hypnotherapy Instructor

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Permalink Reply by Reg Blackwood - The Quicknotist on March 4, 2009 at 12:13am

I agree Roy!
Even right now I'm thinking: How can I help you and Doreen with this negative emotional response?
;-)

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on March 4, 2009 at 1:16am

Hello Reg, I don't think it is a negative emotional response, some people are visual, some people are editorial and some kinesthetic, this is a learning style in which different learning and understanding takes place, some people can carry and learn better with physical activity, and some don't... that does not make it a negative emotional response, we are actually very normal, and respond in a positive way, only if the message is delivered to us correctly, and for us we do better without being touched or distracted by finger snapping...

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on March 4, 2009 at 1:35am

I don't think I have ever snapped my fingers at a client (or a waiter) in my life.

I have snapped my fingers when training dogs. and also when doing the 'Israeli Wedding Dance' a circle dance, where the fingers are snapped to the left after a right step, and to the right afer a left step.

As far as I understand it, Finger snapping in hypnosis is simply an anchor which once established, would be responded to in whatever way had been set up. If it is done right beside a subjects ears, it could have a shock value, which may or may not be useful for some people. If it is done at an appropriate distance and volume it does not have a shock effect, but simply works as an established anchor. Try varying the distance you click your fingers from the subjects ears, and see what response you get.

Apply this principle to any technique, there is a point of balance where things work well. If you shout at your subject, they might feel intimidated, and you will get a sore throat. If you whisper, they may not hear your suggestions. If you talk too fast they may not be able to process your suggestions effectively, if you talk too slow, it becomes laboured, and they may find themselves becoming impatient.

Find the appropriate balance, which works best for whatever you are doing.

Love and hgugs,

Fable

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