Client getting off of Oxi Cotton/ Opiates

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Permalink Reply by Ricky Strode on November 16, 2011 at 11:14am

Very dangerous. Work with his primary care physician. If you need help with this, then please get in contact with me asap.

Your In-Trance To Success,

Ricky Strode

Florida Hypnosis

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Permalink Reply by Scott Cooper on November 16, 2011 at 11:22am

 

Thanks Rick,

 

Our two phone calls were like talking to two different people, one so depressed, giving up,, one so "high" so ready to get his life back,, Not my area of experience,

 

Hope you have a great day,

 

Scott

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Permalink Reply by Marc Whipple on November 16, 2011 at 4:34pm

I hate to be a pedant, but if you're going to treat somebody who's abusing a highly addictive, extremely dangerous drug, you might want to look it up and learn a little about it, like what it's called. (You could either be trying to say "oxycontin," or "oxycodone." They're the same thing. Oxycontin is a trade name for the drug called oxycodone.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxycodone

 

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on November 16, 2011 at 6:29pm

I have to agree with Marc.   I am the worst speller and typist on hypnothoughts, and usually the most forgiving in such things.   But your post indicates you have absolutly no clue as to the nature of this addiction or familiarity with the drug.   Any physician or substance abuse counselor, even a lousy speller like me would get it close enough to be right.  Although a common addiction and common drug, it is one of the most severe detox phases. Not getting detox and relapse correct can lead to death.

You are probaly skilled in working with others, so stick to others.    This is not a situation for a "script" and "other info" would actually be a course in substance abuse counseling.

You have many issues of liability here, and so get him treated by a licensed healthcare professional THEN see you to support the recovery process after he is both detoxed and medically stable.  That would be an approproate role for you in the situation. I see you have many years of experience in meditation, that is something that you can pass along to him that will be very valuable to him in those first few weeks AFTER treated by a detox center or physician.

Even though I spend ten years directly doing primarily substance abuse counseling, both inpatient and outpatient, I rarely ever see clients in my office for hypnotherapy unless they are detoxed, clean and sober FIRST.

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Permalink Reply by Scott Cooper on November 17, 2011 at 4:59am

 

I agree with all of you and have passed on this client,

Wow, I was way off on the spelling!!! Gotta chuckle a bit at that,, shows how little I know about this area. And talking to his mom, confirmed I am, way, way out of my league here.

I let his doctor know that I do not have any experience, and knowledge in this area, and thanks guys, after I did some research, wow, you are supporting my decision. The Doc has sent me a lot of referrals. I felt that he appreciated my honesty in just saying "I really have no knowledge and experience here, best to find someone that does."

 

Hope you all have a great day,

 

Scott

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on November 17, 2011 at 5:15am

Scott this could be a good way for you to go out and meet some providers of treatment services.  Let them know occasionally you have referrals you would like to make and you would like to stopy by to learn about the programs they offer.   In turn they will probably make some referrals to you AFTER they are clean and sober....  Could be a way to benefit the client, connect with the other resources in town and build success even in an area you currently have limited experience with.

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Permalink Reply by Marc Whipple on November 17, 2011 at 5:20am

Sir, I applaud your honesty and withdraw my snarky comment. That stuff is bad, bad news. Bless the people who really need it, because it can give them back their lives, but the ones who don't can find theirs gone.

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Permalink Reply by Scott Cooper on November 17, 2011 at 5:28am

 

Hey Marc,

 

I deserved your remark, I wrote the post well on the phone with the gentlemen, it was our second call, he was motivated to come by.At the least, I should have looked up the spelling, what it was.

 

My wife is in a hospital setting and woke me up to the level of drug that was involved, I really had no idea of how dangerous that drug is... 

 

Hope you have a great day,

Scott

Marc Whipple said:

Sir, I applaud your honesty and withdraw my snarky comment. That stuff is bad, bad news. Bless the people who really need it, because it can give them back their lives, but the ones who don't can find theirs gone.

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Permalink Reply by Scott Cooper on November 17, 2011 at 5:31am

 

Great idea Richard,

There are two recovery facility's that I've stopped by and by chance, ended up sitting and talking to one of the directors for some time. I ended up with stop smoking referrals. Thanks for the reminder, I'll have to stop by there again..

 

Have a great day Richard,

 

Scott

Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com said:

Scott this could be a good way for you to go out and meet some providers of treatment services.  Let them know occasionally you have referrals you would like to make and you would like to stopy by to learn about the programs they offer.   In turn they will probably make some referrals to you AFTER they are clean and sober....  Could be a way to benefit the client, connect with the other resources in town and build success even in an area you currently have limited experience with.

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Permalink Reply by Carolyn Ann O'Riley, CHC, CHt, on November 17, 2011 at 10:54am

Scot, I sometimes receive referal clients that are being discharged from Passages Addiction Cure Center in Malibu, CA. They use hypnotherapy along with other modalities to assist their clients to over come addictions. They do not go by the 12 step programs but use a group of modalities to find the actual cause of the issue. They have a book out that describes their methods: The Alcoholism and Addition Cure, A Holistic Approach to Total Recovery. by Chris Prentiss  ISBN 978-0-943015-44-6. 

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