Clients who hear voices

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Permalink Reply by Chris Witherspoon on September 20, 2009 at 4:12pm

Hearing voices always put red flags up for me. I would interview her and find out more about these voices, but it sound like a referral to me.

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on September 20, 2009 at 4:25pm

Hello Fern,

I have helped clients with hearing voices, but before I say anything, what kind of voices? whistling, human voice. how does it sound, low, high, loud, like a whisper?

Also you want to find out when did it start, how is her diet, is she on any medications and if she seen by a doctor?

Let me know more. so I see if I can help.

Respectfully Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
www.EnterYourMind.com

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Permalink Reply by Janice Vivienne Shaw on September 20, 2009 at 5:24pm

During your interview with her, ask her what do the voices say, and what does she think they want. Just an idea.

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Permalink Reply by FernTausig on September 20, 2009 at 5:48pm

from the person who referred her to me I know they keep her awake, docs wanted to put her on meds and she is not interested and that they are saying bad things to her. I was thinking about parts therapy and talking with a psychiatrist who does hypnosis if I can find one

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht said:

Hello Fern,

I have helped clients with hearing voices, but before I say anything, what kind of voices? whistling, human voice. how does it sound, low, high, loud, like a whisper?

Also you want to find out when did it start, how is her diet, is she on any medications and if she seen by a doctor?

Let me know more. so I see if I can help.

Respectfully Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
www.EnterYourMind.com

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on September 20, 2009 at 5:59pm

Hmmmm.

Hi Fern,

I am not qualified or legally allowed to give medical, psychological or legal advice. So, what follows is NOT medical, psychological or legal advice.


This could be an opportunity to develop a relationship with a local licensed mental health professional because if there is any chance of being accused of "practicing without a licensed" it is a good idea to practice safe* hypnosis.

Remembering my caveat: I am not qualified or legally allowed to give medical, psychological or legal advice and depending on where you live and practice and the personality of local law enforcement, I do not think you'd be accused of "practicing without a license" for asking about the nature of the voice(s). Now, if he or she is getting messages from Satan -- Refer them to a licensed health care provider immediately! If client reports hearing mom's voice reminding him or her to wear a sweater or take their umbrella - a referral is probably is not necessary...

Newbies-


I trust you are using an "Intake/Practitioner-Client Agreement" that contains basic client info and cleary express the services that are and are not being offered.

My Intake/Practitioner-Client Agreement contains:


I understand that this consultation is not meant to diagnose or treat any disease, but rather, it is intended to provide information and education that will promote feeling better, healing faster and generally being more effective. It is designed to give me insight and tools into my innate healing potential and guide me into being more effective in helping myself.



I also realize that this consultation is not a substitute for conventional medicine and I have been encouraged to seek the advice of a licensed health care provider should I choose to with regard to treating me for specific medical or psychological problems

Michael E.

PS -- * Condoms are not necessary for practicing safe hypnosis...

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Permalink Reply by FernTausig on September 20, 2009 at 6:12pm

Thanks Michael, I respect your opinion and appreciate your time and comment!
Fern

Michael Ellner said:

Hmmmm.

Hi Fern,

I am not qualified or legally allowed to give medical, psychological or legal advice. So, what follows is NOT medical, psychological or legal advice.


This could be an opportunity to develop a relationship with a local licensed mental health professional because if there is any chance of being accused of "practicing without a licensed" it is a good idea to practice safe* hypnosis.

Remembering my caveat: I am not qualified or legally allowed to give medical, psychological or legal advice and depending on where you live and practice and the personality of local law enforcement, I do not think you'd be accused of "practicing without a license" for asking about the nature of the voice(s). Now, if he or she is getting messages from Satan -- Refer them to a licensed health care provider immediately! If client reports hearing mom's voice reminding him or her to wear a sweater or take their umbrella - a referral is probably is not necessary...

Newbies-


I trust you are using an "Intake/Practitioner-Client Agreement" that contains basic client info and cleary express the services that are and are not being offered.

My Intake/Practitioner-Client Agreement contains:


I understand that this consultation is not meant to diagnose or treat any disease, but rather, it is intended to provide information and education that will promote feeling better, healing faster and generally being more effective. It is designed to give me insight and tools into my innate healing potential and guide me into being more effective in helping myself.



I also realize that this consultation is not a substitute for conventional medicine and I have been encouraged to seek the advice of a licensed health care provider should I choose to with regard to treating me for specific medical or psychological problems

Michael E.

PS -- * Condoms are not necessary for practicing safe hypnosis...

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Permalink Reply by James Malone on September 20, 2009 at 6:46pm

Fern, prior to my beginning my career as a certified hypnotist (helping normal people with the normal problems of everyday life) I was a clinical case manager in a community mental health program for adults with severe and persistent mental illness. Micheal gave a great recommendation here, but I would reiterate do not under any circumstances work with this person without a written referral from her doctor.

Keep in mind this is not to suggest or imply some sort of inferiority with the competent hypnosis professional (such as ourselves.) The licensed healthcare professionals who normally assist such persons do so with an extended support network because of the challenges involved. And this network includes those who can initiate emergency services including inpatient hospitalization if warranted to protect the patient and others when they have decompensated.

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on September 20, 2009 at 7:40pm

Thank you Fern,

Why do they try to keep her awake?

OK, I do believe that your client need to be seen by a doctor, I am also unclear as to what you have found out from your client, such as family history and life experience? Any ways, it sounds like an issue of a childhood trauma. where your client sees her self as worthless, and the harmful hostile voices are their to gain some kind of control over her power.

So as long as the voices are negative, then hypnosis will not add at this point of her life experiences, client need to been by a doctor and only then you can start working on her to change her negative beliefs into healthy beliefs.

I am confident that she needs medication at this point, I am not a doctor, but I have worked with cases like this as well, so medication will help to eliminate future problem or harm as a result of hearing these negative voices.

Please, refer your client to a psychiatrist at this point for the purpose of medication, and help her to better understand the reward of self love and acceptance to cope with this voices, if you do that, the voices will be gone gradually and she will be off medication probably within three to sex months...

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht,HBCE
Certified Hypnotherapist, Child Birth Practitioner & Energy Healer
www.EnterYourMind.com
www.HypnoCruise.com

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Permalink Reply by rachel Beavan on September 20, 2009 at 8:48pm

Hi Fern,

I would like to advise that we should be careful not to judge on these situations. Coming from my own experience of hearing, 'voices', it could also mean that she is able to hear (clairaudiance) clearly spirit communication, this goes for all therapist who judge too quickly. She may also just be a medium that is able to communicate with souls that have passed over to the realms of spirit.

Of course it deeply depends on how she/he is receiving the information, if it is inspiring & positive (spirit communication), recommended to a spiritualist church. If it is negative & giving a suggestion of doing negative things (psychosis/ego/deep therapy/psychiatrist).

Through regression i have also experienced people going into spiritual trance & speaking directly to the companions (what people classify as guides), so enjoy the journey & new ways of looking at life. Keep safe in practice & be gentle on the information being given. Life is not black & white.

Rachel

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on September 20, 2009 at 10:47pm

Hi Rachel,

I agree with your but your experience of hearing, 'voices', is (clairaudiance) like you said before, clearly spirit communication, and what is represented here is not that, because clairaudiance voices are usually to guise and to help, not to suggest self harm, same goes for a medium that is able to communicate with souls that have passed over to the realms of spirit. ( many people from here are able to communicate with spirits, so I only speak from experience )..

As to doing any regression done on this client may cause harm, I will strongly recommend to the client to see a doctor...

Unfortunately in many cases like this, family members ego comes in hand instead of the safety of the family member, I hope you can explain how dangerous a chemical unbalance can be, if it is neglected...

PS: I am not for medication, but In cases like this, I will not take responsibility to someones life, life is too short and too precious for us to play with it.

Respectfully, Doreen Cohanim C.Ht,HBCE
www.HypnoCruise.com

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Permalink Reply by Jenny Lynn on September 21, 2009 at 12:13am

My immediate thoughts are that the negative 'voices' that you say she hears, are often the disapproving voices of her childhood. This could have been express or not.

I have worked with some that hear these kinds of voices, but not enough to give you sound advice. My experience is that parts would have been the best way forward, but in my case, the one person who I thought might benefit from it, didn't have the courage to go there. Because the voices were so destructive, he didn't want to imagine them as having a form or shape or any kind of personality.

Unfortunately, I was seeing him for dystonia and torticollis which had him gnarled and twisted, which apparently are linked with the anti psychotic, stellazine. I believe, your client is wise not to take mind altering drugs.

But clearly, in his case the voices were his disowned selves from his traumatic childhood. His body had become the repository of all his unacceptable feelings, and it was twisted and disabled because of it. He was heavily medicated, diagnosed pschizophrenic, and terrified of the voices.

The fear of the voices, I believe, is greater than where they might come from.
Bes twishes
jenny

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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on September 21, 2009 at 1:01am

from my experience, of people who hear voices,

It comes in various forms,
various voices,
and for various reasons...

It may be completely benign...
just an awarenes of the thoughts in ther head...
and we all have various voices in our heads,
which we mainly are unaware of,
we just think of them as thoughs,
sometimes in the voice of someone like a mother or father,
or friend, or in our own voice.
this is not pathological..
and we don't usually refer to it as 'hearing voices'.


If someone talks about 'hearing voices',
and it is disturbing them..
then as Chris said,
and others have indicated...
Red flag...
alarm bells...
tread with care.

if in any doubt..
do not get involved.

Remember that some clients go into hypnosis,
or believe that they are in hypnosis,
the moment they come into a hypnotists presence.
and even on the phone.
so even a preliminary consultation,
can add fuel to a person who
may potentially be psychotic /schizophrenic
or whatever.

so I repeat:
tread with care.

LOve and hugs,

Fable

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