Drug Addictions, Anxiety And Antidepressant Withdrawals?

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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on April 29, 2010 at 10:18am

A long long time ago in a land far far away ... I chose French as my second language for my Phd. program. Armed with a dictionary I passed the test by the barest of margins and moved on to the things I was really studying in school. From my experience then I can tell you that French is a highly idiomatic language and direct word for word translations don't always make a sense to an English speaker. So, myself personally I would overlook the literals and just consider it all an Idiom. I tend to agree with Micheal that it isn't the exact wording that gets the result... It is the meaning the client invests in the words ... ie the pictures his mind makes at the very root position of his mental hard drive.

Hugh Cole
The Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet.

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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on April 29, 2010 at 10:26am

Hugh Cole said:

personally I would overlook the literals and just consider it all an Idiom. I tend to agree with Micheal that it isn't the exact wording that gets the result... It is the meaning the client invests in the words ... ie the pictures his mind makes at the very root position of his mental hard drive.

Hugh Cole

I'll buy that.

Love and hugs,

Fable (who is just about to defragment his hard drive)

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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on April 29, 2010 at 10:45am

........ grin

Hugh

Fable Goodman said:

Hugh Cole said:

personally I would overlook the literals and just consider it all an Idiom. I tend to agree with Micheal that it isn't the exact wording that gets the result... It is the meaning the client invests in the words ... ie the pictures his mind makes at the very root position of his mental hard drive.

Hugh Cole

I'll buy that.

Love and hugs,

Fable (who is just about to defragment his hard drive)

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Permalink Reply by Josceleyne Dalton on April 29, 2010 at 1:47pm

Well done Doreen. Having spent 10 years on many different anti-depressants for myself, at the recommendation of doctors (??) I was and am most definitely aware of how tough it is to go through the trials and tribulations of giving them up, but give them up I did. I too have helped many to overcome the stresses of losing the need and want for the all powerful (to their way of thinking) anti-depressant drug and have been very successful, when I was constantly told there was no way I would be able to help these people to help themselves. Well help themselves they did with my guidelines and via hypnosis, stress, management and life coaching. I too was very proud of my clients but also myself for having achieved a future for my clients better than the one they would have had if they had not given up these drugs.

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on April 29, 2010 at 8:01pm

Hi Josceleyne, and thank you for sharing, and you know what, I am proud of you too.

Great Job, Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on April 29, 2010 at 8:27pm

Sorry Guys, I need to make a correction, my mistake, since my client stopped her antidepressant on April 21st, 2010, not the 19Th.

So today is her Ninth day, and I do like Kelley and Duncan quotes so far, and I have added the one I liked as well, and I would love your input to help me to decide which one is the best to have for my clients certificate of success:

Here is Kelley's,

It does not matter how deep you fall, what matters is how high you bounce back. - unknown

"I am the master of my fate. I am the captain of my soul." - William Ernest Henley

Here is Duncan's,

"Every day, in every way, I am getting better and better." By Emile Coue

And

'Success comes in cans - not cant's'

And here is mine:

"In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity." - By Albert Einstein

"What you become is more important than what you accomplish." Unknown

"There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, learning from failure." - By Colin Powell

"Remember, today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday." By Dale Carnegie

Thanks, Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Dan Elliott on April 29, 2010 at 9:32pm

Hi Doreen,

This is a complex issue indeed. I haven't read all the responses here, but I'm certain they are all correct in some way. There are a couple of things I'd be looking at closely with your client.

Firstly, anxiety disorders are real, of course. They are closely linked with activity in the physical brain, mainly the amygdala and hippocampus. The autonomic nervous system oversees the whole issue. They are then, real health issues. Patients are given medications which can, sometimes, control the symptoms. The medication does not however cure the affliction.

Your client, unless I've misread the text, was a victim of some form of anxiety disorder; she was then prescribed medication in an attempt to control it.

By withdrawing the medication, the affect is twofold. Firstly, the anxiety she suffered previously is still with her, and the physical symptoms of withdrawal from the drugs creates its own nightmare.

So, now we have a client who is worse off mentally than when she began taking the medication, or so it appears. What to do? Well, she needs needs to ride out the withdrawal period. She wont die from it, neither will it worsen. Her body needs time to adjust back to it's prior state. There's no other way. Then, when she's settled down, some direct work on the anxiety issue could be considered. There is profoundly wise and empirical evidence from a certain university in the USA which suggests that such neurotic conditions can indeed be 'unlearned' by the judicious utilisation of therapy.

I wish you well.
Dan.

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on April 30, 2010 at 12:50am

Thanks Dan,

My client is doing great, and better each and every day :) And she is already exploring and letting her body heal from the withdrawal period, and I agree, she wont die from it, and neither will it worsen. And she understands that her body needs time to adjust back to it's prior state. She is clean for Ten days today, and I am going to see her soon, so I can work on the anxiety issue.

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Dan Elliott on April 30, 2010 at 5:40am

You are most welcome indeed Doreen ...

Dan.

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht said:

Thanks Dan,

My client is doing great, and better each and every day :) And she is already exploring and letting her body heal from the withdrawal period, and I agree, she wont die from it, and neither will it worsen. And she understands that her body needs time to adjust back to it's prior state. She is clean for Ten days today, and I am going to see her soon, so I can work on the anxiety issue.

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Brian Green on June 15, 2010 at 8:00pm

Hi. If you read "Toxic Psychiatry." and "Your Drug May Be Your Problem." by Pete Breggin, a Psychiatrist MD, you will see that increased anxiety etc, tremors, sweats, etc, etc, are common withdrawal symptoms of medical psychoactive drug dependency and addiction. Barbiturate withdrawal convulsions are life threatening, as with severe alcohol addiction. Benzodiazepine (Valium family) have an incredibly lengthy and difficult withdrawal. I have a client just recently, who was taking Paxil, a low dose for 3 months. He went on a seminar, and forgot to take them with him. After a couple of days he was ill in bed, sweating, flulike symptoms, explosions in his nerves, anxious, etc. He twigged it, called his wife, a nurse, and got her to look it up on the internet. He said out of about 20 withdrawal symptoms, he had about 17! Doctor drugs are DRUGS. And are 100% pure. Very strong. By the way, Medical Doctors are often woefully ignorant in this area. And the pharmaceutical companies have engaged in systematic dis/misinformation. There is a whole article on prescription drug addiction on my website on webpage http://www.mindmagic123.com/id120.html After reading it, and Breggin, you may be better informed than a client's MD. (tread carefully!) Substance dependency and abuse are a specialized field. I am a certified Substance Abuse Counselor, and am willing to provide information (and opinions, of which I have many) in this area. Email me at mindmagic123@yahoo.com

best from the brain of brian, the little b, aka hypnohotshot

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