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Permalink Reply by Jan Krüger on May 8, 2009 at 7:08am

Personally I like the approach of trusting the client's (hypothetical ;)) unconscious mind to know what's useful to remember consciously and what perhaps should simmer outside of consciousness for a while. In that spirit I'd probably indirectly suggest that not all things need to be remembered and I wouldn't be any more specific than that.

I also think that the amnesia approach might be better for some clients than having them remember everything clearly, and if you want to, you can probably encourage partial amnesia while still keeping good rapport and letting them remember that the session had a powerful effect on them. Frankly, it seems to me like the idea that amnesia is a bad thing comes from the mindset that hypnosis is all about controlling people. The only one who can create amnesia is the client himself... if it was detrimental to him, he wouldn't let it happen.

All that said, your way of doing it obviously has its merits, too, since you're using it successfully, so far be it from me to dismiss your approach.

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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on May 8, 2009 at 7:26am

hey 'His Grumpiness',

I am quite attached to the idea of non attachment, but I am willing to work on letting go of that attachment.

I am guessing that some people will also leap to defend the way they work, in the assumption that me stating my preferences and opinion is in some way an attack on others who think, and do things differently.


Definately not my intent, just stating an opinion.

Love and hugs,

fable

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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on May 8, 2009 at 7:31am

Great to hear Katherine,

keep working the way that works well for you.

And thanks again for the positive comment about example of linked suggestions.

Love and hugs,

Fable

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Permalink Reply by Vince Black on July 16, 2009 at 9:49pm

What would you say about this? Here is the deal. I have been much more successful with doing waking hypnosis covertly than doing direct hypnosis. It seems that if I dont tell a subject what I am doing it works much better. If someone just tells me about a presenting problem, I do some anchoring and slip in some embedded commands and 6 months later that are a hundred pounds lighter. If I do some kind of formal thing, then not so much success. I guess what I have found personally ( I do think that my ideas impinge on success or no success) that leaving the conscious mind totally out of it is much easier. What are your thoughts? Vince.

Fable Goodman said:

Thanks Katherine,

I would prefer my clients to be aware of the suggestions for a couple of reasons;

1. Because the flow of suggestions make logical sense
they are very readilly acceptable
to the conscious part of the mind,
and are accepted far more easilly
if they are encouraged to listen consciously.

2. I am generally not in favour of slipping in stuff
that the client is not consciously aware of.
If I am working in alignment
with what the client wants and needs,
and I have built up the appropriate levels of rapport,
then there is no point in hiding the good work.

3. I am coming to the opinion,
that amnesia of what happens in hypnosis
is actually detrimental to rapport and trust.
It leaves people wondering what might have happened,
what I said, what they might have said or done.
I actually tell clients that (if they are paying attention),
they will be able to remember consciously,
eveything that has happened.

Now having said that last one,
I await a string of people
attatched to use of amnesia,
strongly putting the opposite view.

Love and hugs,

Fable

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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on July 16, 2009 at 11:29pm

Thanks Vince,

and welcome to Hypnothoughts.

Only a member for six hours, and you are making intelligent insicive comments on a post from way back in May. Have you read through all the discusions at super speed, I wonder?

You said; "I do think that my ideas impinge on success or no success"

I agree wholeheartedly! Whatever you congruently believe, will come across at various levels (consious and unconscious) to the client.

If you congruently believe:
That you have done a good job;
That they have responded well to that work;
That as a result of them responding well to your good job, they will lose weight.
Then I am sure they will respond positively to that fully congruent message .

They will go away feeling confident that you did a good job.
They will go away believing that they responded well.
They will go away fully expecting the treatment to work.

Thanks again for your response. First thing I read this morning... Now for a cup of tea!

Love and hugs,


Fable










Vince Black said:

What would you say about this? Here is the deal. I have been much more successful with doing waking hypnosis covertly than doing direct hypnosis. It seems that if I dont tell a subject what I am doing it works much better. If someone just tells me about a presenting problem, I do some anchoring and slip in some embedded commands and 6 months later that are a hundred pounds lighter. If I do some kind of formal thing, then not so much success. I guess what I have found personally ( I do think that my ideas impinge on success or no success) that leaving the conscious mind totally out of it is much easier. What are your thoughts? Vince.
Fable Goodman said:

Thanks Katherine,

I would prefer my clients to be aware of the suggestions for a couple of reasons; 1. Because the flow of suggestions make logical sense
they are very readilly acceptable
to the conscious part of the mind,
and are accepted far more easilly
if they are encouraged to listen consciously.

2. I am generally not in favour of slipping in stuff
that the client is not consciously aware of.
If I am working in alignment
with what the client wants and needs,
and I have built up the appropriate levels of rapport,
then there is no point in hiding the good work.

3. I am coming to the opinion,
that amnesia of what happens in hypnosis
is actually detrimental to rapport and trust.
It leaves people wondering what might have happened,
what I said, what they might have said or done.
I actually tell clients that (if they are paying attention),
they will be able to remember consciously,
eveything that has happened.

Now having said that last one,
I await a string of people
attatched to use of amnesia,
strongly putting the opposite view.

Love and hugs,

Fable

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