Electronic cigarette use or other NRT along with hypnotherapy

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Taylor on October 21, 2011 at 11:37am

I would not support them using something like that. However if they feel the need and you push for them to not use this method, it may do more harm than good for their success. I would suggest that it was not necessary and that hypnosis would be all they need. If they still wanted it then it may be conter-productive. Maybe not but what they believe is their reality.

 

Bruce Taylor

www.taylorhypnosiscenter.com

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Permalink Reply by Graham Old on October 21, 2011 at 11:52am

Why prolong the nicotine addiction?

 

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Permalink Reply by Leaha Lara on October 21, 2011 at 12:02pm

I would think that wouldn't be a good idea once you are using hypnosis. With the gum, you are still putting nicotine into the body, the same with electronic cigarettes, plus with them, the client is still feeding the habit of putting something cigarette like in their mouth. The thing about hypnosis is you are not getting the client to "give up" smoking, they are simply stopping. People have a hard time quiting because they often feel like they are giving something up that's been a part of them, but by stopping using the techniques of hypnosis, there shouldn't be any need for them to continue using gum or electronic cigarettes.

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Taylor on October 21, 2011 at 12:16pm

Also, forgot to add that depending on what they chose I may not take them as a client. Depends on the pre-talk. Good points from Graham and Leaha.

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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on October 21, 2011 at 12:18pm

I'll take a different perspective on this: too many times, people (including those in this profession) see hypnosis as an alternative...an alternative to traditional, Western, pharmaceutical, etc., approaches. I have found that hypnotic intervention often works great in conjunction with other methods.

While it is ideal for a client to make an appointment for smoking cessation, come in, spend some time in hypnosis and then walk out the door, a non-smoker...life isn't always ideal. I prefer to accept the client, warts (Volcanoes) and all. Chances are that I can add to their belief system that hypnosis is an additional and complementary tool for creating success. My job is to help them help themselves, however that happens and with whatever tools they choose.

I have helped several young adult clients who also use electronic cigs; they like the ability to "choose" to use the cigs socially while finding the freedom to let go of tobacco via hypnosis. From follow-up contact, I find that most of them eventually ditch the electronic cigs once they give themselves permission to use them. Funny, eh?!

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Joseph Gionti on October 21, 2011 at 2:28pm

I would stress to the client that it will not be needed. However, isn’t the goal of the client (and you as the hypnotist) that they quit smoking? I would not tell a weight loss client to stay away from carrot sticks simply because I personally don’t like the taste of them. Therefore, although I might question their devotion to quitting in the first place, tell the client that if their goal is to kick the smoking habit, they can do whatever they need to do if they feel it will ease the process…even of it means puffing on an electronic cigarette.

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Permalink Reply by Lisa on October 21, 2011 at 4:11pm

Hi Laura,

   I stopped smoking regular cigarettes about 5-6 months ago and use an electronic cigarette. For what it is worth-I can't smoke regular cigarettes anymore. I can't stand doing it (I have tested this). I never ever would have believed I would develop an aversion to regular cigarettes because I loved them like a fiend and totally chain smoked. For what I wanted to stop about smoking-the smell, the ashes, fire, coughing, it has been a miracle. For what I wanted to keep-the social ritual, the feeling, the tactile part of it-it has worked out great for me. It adds flavors and scents that have been even better than what was available with regular cigarettes. People actually comment on how much they like the air freshener I use <g> THAT never happened with reg cigs. I can have 180 different flavors and am usually vaping espresso, green tea, blueberry, coconut. I can choose the nicotine amount from 36, 24, 18, 12, 10, 8, 4 and even 0. I like that I control the amount of nicotine and flavor. I can't even imagine going back to regular smoke cigarettes again.

  I never suffered! The transition was effortless. I have friends who tried and hated the gum and patches were useless to them.  If you want to smoke-chewing might not be much help at all. 

   I love it and think it is bloody brilliant. I can use 0 nicotine and it doesn't matter. I get everything, all the feeling regardless. Is it a placebo? Oh heck yeah-and it is a placebo that totally works for me. 

   If they dissapeared tomorrow Id miss them but I'd not be tempted to go back to regular cigarettes. I couldn't go more than a few hours without a regular cigarette before and now if I couldn't have an ecig for days it is no big deal. It is a pleasure now instead of a NEED. That just blows my mind. I couldn't have every imagined it. I do it now because I like it not because I must have it to function. What a difference!

gentle day,

Lisa

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Permalink Reply by James Malone on October 21, 2011 at 4:22pm

With the electronic cigs I would adopt the same stance I have when a client tells me they will be using the nicotine patch or gum,  which is if they believe it will help "Great! By all means go ahead and give yourself every possible advantage." However, I never recommend nicotine replacement therapy because it is not my place to do so as I am not an MD or a pharmacist.

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Permalink Reply by Walter Eng on October 21, 2011 at 5:16pm

Generally, I don't mind if a client wants to use a stop smoking aid in addition to choosing hypnosis.  However, I make sure to ask questions to understand their reasoning for the aid.  Perhaps they want to use an aid because they don't believe hypnosis will help them entirely.  Or maybe they just simply want to attack the problem from multiple angles to ensure success.  Either way, I tailor my pre-talk to assure them that hypnosis is a great option that can be used alone or in conjunction with stop smoking aids, but the outcome remains the same - to stop smoking forever!

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on October 21, 2011 at 6:28pm

I agree with Kelley, James and Walter-

 

I often ask clients what is the best way to reach their goals and I respect and act on what they tell me -- That said the goal is to help the client find healthy, creative ways to make the unwanted habit unnecessary.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig - HypnosisAustin on October 21, 2011 at 8:12pm

I never encourage my clients to use NRT or pharmaceuticals, but it they want to use them, I don't refuse to work those clients. I always tell them I believe in stacking the deck in our favor.

 

The only downside is that if your client uses NRT and hypnosis, there's an excellent chance that he'll later say, "I don't know if the hypnosis really did any good. I was using NRT at the same time."

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Permalink Reply by amber lee poole on October 21, 2011 at 9:55pm

Hey Lisa,

 

Yes, a lot of people don't realise that an electronic cig can just be for the habit of sucking on a white stick and can be without nicotine.

 

I feel that if a client has a very strong habit of wanting to put something to their mouths and is feeling like THAT part of the habit is impossible to break, then why not try the electronic one??  Agree with so many of you in the fact that it is about flowing with the client with the one goal of STOPPING SMOKING COMPLETELY AND EASILY.

 

Amber xo

Lisa said:

Hi Laura,

   I stopped smoking regular cigarettes about 5-6 months ago and use an electronic cigarette. For what it is worth-I can't smoke regular cigarettes anymore. I can't stand doing it (I have tested this). I never ever would have believed I would develop an aversion to regular cigarettes because I loved them like a fiend and totally chain smoked. For what I wanted to stop about smoking-the smell, the ashes, fire, coughing, it has been a miracle. For what I wanted to keep-the social ritual, the feeling, the tactile part of it-it has worked out great for me. It adds flavors and scents that have been even better than what was available with regular cigarettes. People actually comment on how much they like the air freshener I use <g> THAT never happened with reg cigs. I can have 180 different flavors and am usually vaping espresso, green tea, blueberry, coconut. I can choose the nicotine amount from 36, 24, 18, 12, 10, 8, 4 and even 0. I like that I control the amount of nicotine and flavor. I can't even imagine going back to regular smoke cigarettes again.

  I never suffered! The transition was effortless. I have friends who tried and hated the gum and patches were useless to them.  If you want to smoke-chewing might not be much help at all. 

   I love it and think it is bloody brilliant. I can use 0 nicotine and it doesn't matter. I get everything, all the feeling regardless. Is it a placebo? Oh heck yeah-and it is a placebo that totally works for me. 

   If they dissapeared tomorrow Id miss them but I'd not be tempted to go back to regular cigarettes. I couldn't go more than a few hours without a regular cigarette before and now if I couldn't have an ecig for days it is no big deal. It is a pleasure now instead of a NEED. That just blows my mind. I couldn't have every imagined it. I do it now because I like it not because I must have it to function. What a difference!

gentle day,

Lisa

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