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Permalink Reply by Justin James on September 6, 2010 at 3:36pm

Breathe LOL Breathe.... Yes your wife is going to be more difficult... As it should be.. however she was a excellent first for you...

She said her neck hurt.. OK so get her to lie back... Just look at human mechanics.... walk through a basic induction with her do some convincers and then bring her back out.... If you are doing anything wrong it is the fact that you are attempting to practice everything at once.....

DO NOT ATTEMPT RAPIDS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. Get to work practicing the basics different people react differently.

Justin James

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Permalink Reply by Jamie Connors on September 6, 2010 at 5:36pm

Hehe, breathing, I think I should have got her to do a bit more of that. Makes a lot of sence to get her to sit in a more comfortable position. I had her back sitting straight up in the chair.

I will be having another go tonight, I may try a longer induction with more breathing involved, probably Elman.

Thanks for the advice Justin.

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Permalink Reply by Justin James on September 6, 2010 at 6:10pm

Lol the breathing advice was for you.... LOL... Just take it slow you will be fine....

Justin

Glenn Needham said:

Hehe, breathing, I think I should have got her to do a bit more of that. Makes a lot of sence to get her to sit in a more comfortable position. I had her back sitting straight up in the chair.

I will be having another go tonight, I may try a longer induction with more breathing involved, probably Elman.

Thanks for the advice Justin.

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Permalink Reply by Mohammed Magsi on September 6, 2010 at 6:45pm

Hi Glen,

When working with the family, I always go with the breathing exercise to help them to relax and then do deepening. When someone starts to laugh, I use their laughter as a comforter and relaxer asking them something like 'its okay to laugh cos laughter is a medicine for many things... but as you laugh, I would like you to notice any other feelings you might be getting while you feel the way you feel... maybe a sense of comfort or maybe a sense of relaxation...' (or something like that) which takes their mind off their laugh and start to look for that other feeling.

Her hands and feet feeling like lead says that you can hypnotise her. So all you need to do is stay confident and you can explain to her while she is in a comfortable state of mind and body if you decide to change tactics.

I hope this helps.

Mohammed

PS: I dont believe working with family is as hard as it is made to believe. If anything they are easy cos you can tell'em off if they don't behave lol (just joking).

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Permalink Reply by Jamie Connors on September 6, 2010 at 8:18pm

Thanks Mohammed, I really should have used her laughter. I guess being new to it will take a bit of time to get my head around all the tricks. Last night I thought I had not got an outcome due to her arm not raising, but since she said the hands felt like lead, I guess I can walk away with some success from that.

I also asked her to visualise a tall building with all the lights on. Now all the lights are turning off one by one, and as they turn off, you will feel more relaxed. She imagined a man running from room to room from top to bottom, turning each light off. I think this is another good sign that I was close.

I think I will keep on trying with the family till I have the success I am after before I go and annoy everyone I can find.

Thanks for the help

Mohammed Magsi said:

Hi Glen,

When working with the family, I always go with the breathing exercise to help them to relax and then do deepening. When someone starts to laugh, I use their laughter as a comforter and relaxer asking them something like 'its okay to laugh cos laughter is a medicine for many things... but as you laugh, I would like you to notice any other feelings you might be getting while you feel the way you feel... maybe a sense of comfort or maybe a sense of relaxation...' (or something like that) which takes their mind off their laugh and start to look for that other feeling.

Her hands and feet feeling like lead says that you can hypnotise her. So all you need to do is stay confident and you can explain to her while she is in a comfortable state of mind and body if you decide to change tactics.

I hope this helps.

Mohammed

PS: I dont believe working with family is as hard as it is made to believe. If anything they are easy cos you can tell'em off if they don't behave lol (just joking).

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Permalink Reply by Elizabeth Rose Dye on September 6, 2010 at 8:35pm

Agrees with Justin.. Spouses are the hard ones.. especially when your pumped from a class. Do go around the neck thing.. with having her lie down on a couch .. bed etc.. work with it. Give it time .. Have patience... Don't fret... Breathe!

Justin James said:

Lol the breathing advice was for you.... LOL... Just take it slow you will be fine....

Justin

Glenn Needham said:

Hehe, breathing, I think I should have got her to do a bit more of that. Makes a lot of sence to get her to sit in a more comfortable position. I had her back sitting straight up in the chair.

I will be having another go tonight, I may try a longer induction with more breathing involved, probably Elman.

Thanks for the advice Justin.

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Permalink Reply by Jamie Connors on September 6, 2010 at 8:55pm

Thanks Elizabeth, I will change the seating tonight, not to mention try to take it a lot slower. As you said, I have come off the weekend on a huge high and got a little ahead of myself.

Thanks heaps!

Elizabeth Dye said:

Agrees with Justin.. Spouses are the hard ones.. especially when your pumped from a class. Do go around the neck thing.. with having her lie down on a couch .. bed etc.. work with it. Give it time .. Have patience... Don't fret... Breathe!

Justin James said:

Lol the breathing advice was for you.... LOL... Just take it slow you will be fine....

Justin

Glenn Needham said:

Hehe, breathing, I think I should have got her to do a bit more of that. Makes a lot of sence to get her to sit in a more comfortable position. I had her back sitting straight up in the chair.

I will be having another go tonight, I may try a longer induction with more breathing involved, probably Elman.

Thanks for the advice Justin.

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Permalink Reply by Mohammed Magsi on September 6, 2010 at 8:57pm

Glenn, you are doing a lot better then you realise. If you read your messages here and write down all what you managed and the techniques you used to bring an outcome (maybe not what you hoped for but you had an outcome), you will realise what you have achieved with your wife. I remember when I was training and always worked myself up to trying too hard. What I learnt to do since then is to do my breathing exercise before seeing a client or doing a training session. It works every time or even try switch technique on yourself before starting any session.

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Permalink Reply by Graham Old on September 6, 2010 at 10:15pm

Sorry, I haven't had time to read the other responses.

The key here is utilisation. If she is laughing use that to create a pleasurable experience. If her feet feel like lead, go for a leg stick and then whole body stick. If you then want levitation you can say that her subconscious will select one arm to release from the whole body stick, which it will release when you click your fingers.

Why not have her sit somewhere comfortably, where her head will be able to rest fine behind her (e.g. tall backwards-leaning chair)?

Hope that helps.

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Permalink Reply by Jamie Connors on September 7, 2010 at 7:14pm

Hi Graham, that is a great idea about the leg stick. I guess it didn't cross my mind, but would have been fantastic at the time. She might not have been deep enough for it to occur, but having said that, she had no trouble keeping those hands locked together until I said otherwise. I will give it another shot tonight and see if I can go down that direction instead of lead/floating arm.

Thanks for the help

Graham Old said:

Sorry, I haven't had time to read the other responses.

The key here is utilisation. If she is laughing use that to create a pleasurable experience. If her feet feel like lead, go for a leg stick and then whole body stick. If you then want levitation you can say that her subconscious will select one arm to release from the whole body stick, which it will release when you click your fingers.

Why not have her sit somewhere comfortably, where her head will be able to rest fine behind her (e.g. tall backwards-leaning chair)?

Hope that helps.

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Permalink Reply by Jamie Connors on September 7, 2010 at 7:20pm

Hi Mohammed,

The more I think about it, the more I agree with you. After my first attempt straight after training, I was a little shaken on the outcome since at training I had no real trouble. But to get her hands sticking, and to hear about such a vivid imagination from her, I can see that we got a lot out of the first attempt.

Tonight I will take time to prepare with breathing and be more focused, since last time I did attempt a lot and was very nervous.

Thanks heaps!

Mohammed Magsi said:

Glenn, you are doing a lot better then you realise. If you read your messages here and write down all what you managed and the techniques you used to bring an outcome (maybe not what you hoped for but you had an outcome), you will realise what you have achieved with your wife. I remember when I was training and always worked myself up to trying too hard. What I learnt to do since then is to do my breathing exercise before seeing a client or doing a training session. It works every time or even try switch technique on yourself before starting any session.

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Permalink Reply by Mohammed Magsi on September 7, 2010 at 8:08pm

Hey Glenn,

Remember while you are training and even when you start to practise professionally, always take your time to do your relaxation and take your time while you are with your client/family member. The idea is to build your confidence as you practise and work with the knowledge that if you get something wrong, you CAN correct it. I dont think any therapist here started with every perfect result. We all make mistakes and we all learnt from our mistakes and grow.

You will be a great therapist. Trust me, I am therapist :O) If you have any questions or concerns, send me mail.

Mohammed

PS: The learning begins when you sit with a client...

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