Gut Directed Hypnotherapy

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on August 9, 2010 at 7:43pm

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on August 10, 2010 at 4:22am

IMHO, overrated... And secretive, and interesting study methodologies.

But it's got hypnotherapy a load of credibility in the mainstream where many others have failed.

I'm employed by the NHS in the UK as (probably) the only community-based IBS hypnotherapist.

I do not use gut-directed hypno... I never have... And my patients get outstanding results.

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Permalink Reply by Rob McKeon on August 10, 2010 at 11:11am

William Golden wrote a paper on cognitive behavioural hypnotherapy for IBS in the International Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis in 2007 (issue 55) called "Cognitive-Behavioral Hypnotherapy in the Treatment of Irritable-Bowel-
Syndrome-Induced Agoraphobia". It involved imaginal systematic desensitisation, cognitive restructuring, and hypnosis.

If you don't have access to it you can pm me and I'll email you a copy.

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Permalink Reply by David Sewell on August 11, 2010 at 10:51am

Hi Rob! thanks for the reply. I'ld love to have a copy of the article. Thanks!

Rob McKeon said:

William Golden wrote a paper on cognitive behavioural hypnotherapy for IBS in the International Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis in 2007 (issue 55) called "Cognitive-Behavioral Hypnotherapy in the Treatment of Irritable-Bowel-
Syndrome-Induced Agoraphobia". It involved imaginal systematic desensitisation, cognitive restructuring, and hypnosis.

If you don't have access to it you can pm me and I'll email you a copy.

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Permalink Reply by Stephanie Voss on August 11, 2010 at 1:09pm

David,
Michael Ellner's program is a different approach which offers many valuable elements. I'd definitely look into it for IBS.

Melissa Roth of Alabama Hypnotherapy Center (and a founding member here )has a very specific and informational package for working with IBS clients which is greatly informed by the work of Whorwell and Palsson. Melissa's protocol includes some gut-specific suggestions along with a lot of metaphorical/indirect work. I got a tremendous amount of value from her work and training.

You should definitely also check out http://www.ibshypnosis.com/ (Palsson's work at UNC)....

Good luck!

--Stephanie Voss
IBS Hypnotherapy Specialist

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Permalink Reply by Melissa J. Roth on August 12, 2010 at 10:22am

Thank you Stephanie. My approach to IBS involves 6 sessions if the client is 50 or under and probably 8 if they are over 50. It works to re-train the gut to function normally again regardless of whether the predominant problem is constipation or diarrhea. Since the unconscious mind programmed our autonomic nervous system functions when we were infants I figured it could be used to re-train them if they got bumped out of the correct groove--sort of like an old vinyl record. Since 1996 86% of my IBS clients (well over 1000) have become symptom free and remained that way in spite of Life's ups and downs. 94% have gotten a minimum of a 50% reduction in their symptoms which have persisted after the sessions ended. My students report similar results.j I was inspired by a conversation with Peter Whorwell. I got off the phone really excited that something could be done about my IBS only to realize I had no clue what he was talking about doing with hypnosis. So, I experimented with myself and finally figured out what to say/do and when to say/do it. And, it has worked like a well oiled machine ever since. For more information go to www.alabamahypnotherapycenter.com. You can read my story and learn more about IBS.

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Permalink Reply by Rob McKeon on August 12, 2010 at 1:16pm

There is a service in Manchester, England for ibs which has some good research papers on their site concerning the use of hypnotherapy, you can access them here:
http://www.ibs-care.org/publications.html

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on August 12, 2010 at 11:27pm

...And note the distinct lack of content information in these papers by PJ et al! ;-)

Rob McKeon said:

There is a service in Manchester, England for ibs which has some good research papers on their site concerning the use of hypnotherapy, you can access them here:
http://www.ibs-care.org/publications.html

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Permalink Reply by Melissa J. Roth on August 13, 2010 at 8:03pm

You're right. His papers are totally content free. Within 2 yrs after I first started teaching other hypnotherapists how to do my IBS program a lady from Manchester, UK signed up for a class I was teaching. When I talked to her in class she said that she was one of PJW's hypnotherapists in the clinic and had been sent to learn what I was doing. (At the time, I was getting much better stats than he was claiming. I had always figured that was because he was probably seeing clients with worse symptoms than i was seeing. I've later realized that was incorrect thinking on my part.) Then, a couple of years later another UK hypno showed up in one of my classes and she also claimed that he had sent her to learn any updates, etc. I never tried to verify this because I didn't care. I would have gladly given him my protocol if he had asked. I did notice in his published papers afterwards that he was claiming higher success rates. I don't know if his greater success was due to anything the ladies learned from my approach or some other reason. Personally, if I had to go back and back and back for 30 minute sessions for as long as he claims is necessary I'd give up first.

Henxy said:

...And note the distinct lack of content information in these papers by PJ et al! ;-)

Rob McKeon said:

There is a service in Manchester, England for ibs which has some good research papers on their site concerning the use of hypnotherapy, you can access them here:
http://www.ibs-care.org/publications.html

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Permalink Reply by Kevan Owen on August 14, 2010 at 3:53am

Hi Henxy,
I'm curious as to why you don't do gut-directed hypnotherapy with your IBS patients. Is it that you don't rate it as being useful? What approach do you prefer?

Henxy said:

IMHO, overrated... And secretive, and interesting study methodologies.

But it's got hypnotherapy a load of credibility in the mainstream where many others have failed.

I'm employed by the NHS in the UK as (probably) the only community-based IBS hypnotherapist.

I do not use gut-directed hypno... I never have... And my patients get outstanding results.

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on August 14, 2010 at 11:50am

I wish I could elaborate more on this, but professionalism restricts me here.
Just suffice to say that after quite some time of waiting to hear back from him, as opposed to one of his team, there was help forthcoming, but at a price... And by that time, I'd figured out my way for myself.

Melissa J. Roth said:

You're right. His papers are totally content free. Within 2 yrs after I first started teaching other hypnotherapists how to do my IBS program a lady from Manchester, UK signed up for a class I was teaching. When I talked to her in class she said that she was one of PJW's hypnotherapists in the clinic and had been sent to learn what I was doing. (At the time, I was getting much better stats than he was claiming. I had always figured that was because he was probably seeing clients with worse symptoms than i was seeing. I've later realized that was incorrect thinking on my part.) Then, a couple of years later another UK hypno showed up in one of my classes and she also claimed that he had sent her to learn any updates, etc. I never tried to verify this because I didn't care. I would have gladly given him my protocol if he had asked. I did notice in his published papers afterwards that he was claiming higher success rates. I don't know if his greater success was due to anything the ladies learned from my approach or some other reason. Personally, if I had to go back and back and back for 30 minute sessions for as long as he claims is necessary I'd give up first.

Henxy said:

...And note the distinct lack of content information in these papers by PJ et al! ;-)

Rob McKeon said:

There is a service in Manchester, England for ibs which has some good research papers on their site concerning the use of hypnotherapy, you can access them here:
http://www.ibs-care.org/publications.html

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on August 14, 2010 at 11:53am

Indeed, to me, it's not useful. PJ's thoughts are the opposite of mine. He says it's nothing to do with the past, 'past issues or hidden problems', and that his approach involves 'concentrating the hypnosis on the tummy and the gut rather than the head'. My take on this is the direct opposite.

Kevan Owen said:

Hi Henxy,
I'm curious as to why you don't do gut-directed hypnotherapy with your IBS patients. Is it that you don't rate it as being useful? What approach do you prefer?

Henxy said:

IMHO, overrated... And secretive, and interesting study methodologies.

But it's got hypnotherapy a load of credibility in the mainstream where many others have failed.

I'm employed by the NHS in the UK as (probably) the only community-based IBS hypnotherapist.

I do not use gut-directed hypno... I never have... And my patients get outstanding results.

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