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Permalink Reply by Susan French on May 14, 2009 at 5:41am As a side comment. There are people out there who suffer from what I call emotional anesthesia. This appears to be brought on by some negative event in their life that is ever present in their thoughts, and as a defense mechanism, they literally shut down their ability to feel. I have run in to several of these so it is more widespread than I first suspected. It also includes shutting down the ability to feel physiological changes such as relaxation. When ever someone does not go into trance using the above method, there is an assignable cause. The majority of them are because the instructions are not being followed for some reason. (I address the reasons for not following instructions in my book). One of the reasons is ignorance. They don't understand the instructions. I found out about this emotional anesthesia by investigating why a subject was having issues going into trance. They wanted to know why also, so I had the desire and permission necessary to proceed. The end result was that their entire emotional response system was all but incapacitated. This carried over to their ability to sense when muscles were relaxed or not. When I desensitized the trauma and they began to feel again, they were overjoyed. They said they had just been existing for a very long time. After that, they easily went into trance without any problems. Some of the others that I found who suffered from similar issues, did not feel comfortable dealing with it so I naturally deferred. The point here being that while everyone WANTS to relax, some don't know how, and can't tell if they are or not.
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Permalink Reply by the grumpy hypnotist on May 15, 2009 at 5:33am John;
My clients usually close their eyes as soon as they sit in my chair, even on their first experience with hypnosis. Do you find you have to instruct them not to close their eyes at first?
Susan
Permalink Reply by Susan French on May 15, 2009 at 6:02am Thank you for your kind words. Due to the non-advertising statement I agreed to, I won't post a link to my e-book here. But it is easily found on my website.
John
Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on May 15, 2009 at 6:35am John;
My clients usually close their eyes as soon as they sit in my chair, even on their first experience with hypnosis. Do you find you have to instruct them not to close their eyes at first? Susan
Permalink Reply by Allan Doane on May 15, 2009 at 8:21am John;
My clients usually close their eyes as soon as they sit in my chair, even on their first experience with hypnosis. Do you find you have to instruct them not to close their eyes at first?
Susan
Permalink Reply by the grumpy hypnotist on May 15, 2009 at 1:43pm
Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on May 15, 2009 at 2:51pm speaking only for myself, it is not a petty matter of feeling threatened or wanting to be in charge, it is a matter of detecting a subtle sign that the client may be operating from a script of their own preconceived notions about the work. I think it'd be good to address that as early as possible in the process. You're certainly aware of the importance of a client understanding that they need to follow the simple instructions you provide. When a client appears to be taking the initiative and "helping out", that indicates that perhaps they think they need to follow their own set of instructions based on preconceptions about how things are supposed to go, which may include ideas such as "going under", being asleep, not remembering what the hypnotist said, etc. etc.
You are right, that if this kind of thing isn't currently a problem for Susan B., no big deal. But it is still something worth being aware of, at least for troubleshooting or optimization purposes, don't you think?
regards,
herr grumpy
Permalink Reply by the grumpy hypnotist on May 15, 2009 at 3:14pm
Permalink Reply by Susan French on May 15, 2009 at 4:44pm John,
Yeah, that is a reasonable viewpoint, I can see where you're coming from with it and even better your use of the "you really want this" to utilize it. I just wanted to make clear that the "other" viewpoint was not necessarily driven by some silly feeling of being threatened by the client taking charge, as you seemed to be implying in people besides yourself, but rather that there is a fairly rational reason for taking that other view which may be useful to consider.
Perhaps you did not intend to make that implication, but generally, when people make statements which basically follow the structure "Others have different viewpoints, but [unlike them] I don't feel threatened by my clients", that is kind of a passive little attack, would ye not agree?
- herr grumpy
"I personally view the idea of a client closing their eyes before I ask them to, a sign of their willingness to be hypnotized. They already know what to expect (because I told them) so if they choose to set their own mood for it, so be it. If I need them to open them again I just say the word, if not, I don't. If they close their eyes without my prompting I usually make a comment to the effect of, "You really want this.. don't you." thus further sinking the hook."
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