hypno anesthesia

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Permalink Reply by Dennis Atkinson on July 21, 2010 at 1:52pm

I would contact Scott Sandland on this site.

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Permalink Reply by Scott Sandland on July 21, 2010 at 3:25pm

can all patients be anesthetized by hypnosis?
Not all, but a significant amount can. At the very least, a statistical amount worthy of offering it as an option (in my opinion)

who is the best hypno anesthesist aournd?
I don't know the answer to this because there are plenty of hypnotists who are great at doing this kind of thing and don't tell any of us because they are so busy prepping people for surgeries, etc.

what about imd post surgery pain? can absolute pain free state be achieved iimd after the effect of anasthesia?
Hypnosis is great for post operative pain, muscle guarding, etc. An absolute pain free state can be achieved in some cases, although not in all. the numbers I've seen look a little something like this:
1/3 of patients get results less effective than opiates (morphine, etc)
1/3 report about the same pain level as morphine
1/3 get better results than morphine.

I'll look for that study for proper citation later. I worked through lunch and need to eat before I get to work on a few things.

-Scott

(thanks for the recommendation Dennis)

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Permalink Reply by shakeel dhada on July 21, 2010 at 9:38pm

thanks Dennis !

Dennis Atkinson said:

I would contact Scott Sandland on this site.

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Permalink Reply by shakeel dhada on July 21, 2010 at 9:42pm

Thanks Scott.


Scott Sandland, C.Ht. said:

can all patients be anesthetized by hypnosis?
Not all, but a significant amount can. At the very least, a statistical amount worthy of offering it as an option (in my opinion)

who is the best hypno anesthesist aournd?
I don't know the answer to this because there are plenty of hypnotists who are great at doing this kind of thing and don't tell any of us because they are so busy prepping people for surgeries, etc.

what about imd post surgery pain? can absolute pain free state be achieved iimd after the effect of anasthesia?
Hypnosis is great for post operative pain, muscle guarding, etc. An absolute pain free state can be achieved in some cases, although not in all. the numbers I've seen look a little something like this:
1/3 of patients get results less effective than opiates (morphine, etc)
1/3 report about the same pain level as morphine
1/3 get better results than morphine.

I'll look for that study for proper citation later. I worked through lunch and need to eat before I get to work on a few things.

-Scott

(thanks for the recommendation Dennis)

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Permalink Reply by shakeel dhada on July 21, 2010 at 9:48pm

which are good institutes teaching hypno anesthesia? Is HMI recommendable? can this be learned by distance learning programs?

Scott Sandland, C.Ht. said:

can all patients be anesthetized by hypnosis?
Not all, but a significant amount can. At the very least, a statistical amount worthy of offering it as an option (in my opinion)

who is the best hypno anesthesist aournd?
I don't know the answer to this because there are plenty of hypnotists who are great at doing this kind of thing and don't tell any of us because they are so busy prepping people for surgeries, etc.

what about imd post surgery pain? can absolute pain free state be achieved iimd after the effect of anasthesia?
Hypnosis is great for post operative pain, muscle guarding, etc. An absolute pain free state can be achieved in some cases, although not in all. the numbers I've seen look a little something like this:
1/3 of patients get results less effective than opiates (morphine, etc)
1/3 report about the same pain level as morphine
1/3 get better results than morphine.

I'll look for that study for proper citation later. I worked through lunch and need to eat before I get to work on a few things.

-Scott

(thanks for the recommendation Dennis)

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Permalink Reply by Scott Sandland on July 22, 2010 at 8:50am

I have never heard anything about HMI's pain control program or if they have anything for hypno-anesthesia. I know of a few programs designed for hypnosis for child birth that have good programs for things similar, and you could learn from those and then reverse engineer what it would take to prep for surgery.

I would STRONGLY encourage anyone looking to learn pain control to do it in person, not in a distance course. I think pain control requires confidence that you only get through actually doing it and using it. That is done best in person.

I have done hypnosis for a few procedures, including skull surgery and many oral procedures. I even work with an oral surgeon who uses a custom recording I made for him to greatly reduce the amount of chemical anesthesia he uses with all of his patients.

-Scott

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Permalink Reply by Leshem Yosef on July 22, 2010 at 9:40am

If its hard to find in India live course you can buy online program like:
Gerald Kein 125 Hypnotic Pain Control Techniques
Richard Nongard post this program Hypnotic Anesthesia Pain Control MMP Certification Class - eCourse
Melissa J. Roth Medical Hypnotherapy Specialist Certification
and more to find online
Yosef

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Permalink Reply by Joe K Fobes on July 22, 2010 at 11:21am

shakeel dhada said:which are good institutes teaching hypno anesthesia? Is HMI recommendable? can this be learned by distance learning programs?


Buy Dave Elmans book "hypnotherapy".

Buy the audio Dave Elman course.

You can find them here http://westwoodpublishingco.com/dave_elman.html

Then practice with 100 people, 5 times each person, until you get good.

Thats $135 and some fun hours of practice.

If you do that, you'll be better than 90% of hypnotists out there.

You're going to need to practice as it is, so you might as well do it right the first time around.

Joe

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Permalink Reply by Scott Sandland on July 22, 2010 at 12:12pm

Hey Joe-

I only partially agree with you. While there isn't something I totally disagree with, your posts tend to have a reoccurring theme that all people can get good at hypnosis the way you have (apparently) gotten good at it. I qualify that sentence not to call you out, but because I've never seen you work and am reserving all judgment of your skill beyond your well informed posts here.

I think it's inaccurate to say that just because you were able to learn by reading and practicing on others with little direct instruction that other people can/should do the same thing. In some cases that will work, but there are different styles and paces of learning that should be taken into account (in my opinion). I know a few very good hypnotists who wouldn't have been able to practice if they only followed your advice/model. I also know others who would thrive under your methodology.

My point in bringing this up isn't to argue at all, but to illuminate to others that just because they don't/cant do it your way doesn't mean they don't have great potential to learn their way. I'd encourage you to, in the future, consider that option in your posts, it might help people to hear others say that there is no wrong way to learn hypnosis.

my two cents,
Scott

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Permalink Reply by shakeel dhada on July 23, 2010 at 5:43am

where have you studied from ? which institute? you sound pretty good on the subject.

Scott Sandland, C.Ht. said:

Hey Joe-

I only partially agree with you. While there isn't something I totally disagree with, your posts tend to have a reoccurring theme that all people can get good at hypnosis the way you have (apparently) gotten good at it. I qualify that sentence not to call you out, but because I've never seen you work and am reserving all judgment of your skill beyond your well informed posts here.

I think it's inaccurate to say that just because you were able to learn by reading and practicing on others with little direct instruction that other people can/should do the same thing. In some cases that will work, but there are different styles and paces of learning that should be taken into account (in my opinion). I know a few very good hypnotists who wouldn't have been able to practice if they only followed your advice/model. I also know others who would thrive under your methodology.

My point in bringing this up isn't to argue at all, but to illuminate to others that just because they don't/cant do it your way doesn't mean they don't have great potential to learn their way. I'd encourage you to, in the future, consider that option in your posts, it might help people to hear others say that there is no wrong way to learn hypnosis.

my two cents,
Scott

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