Hypno-Band and Weight Reduction

Has anyone gotten involved with the Hypno-Band system? If so, would you recommend it?

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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on November 16, 2011 at 3:18pm

Hi Adrienne,

The truth is that Hypno-Band or not, there IS no quick fix. A proper weight loss through hypnosis protocol takes a commitment, IMO, of at least 6 sessions, for the average client. As referenced above, you can contact John Maclean about his program...it's been great for me and nearly 60 clients!

Kelley

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Permalink Reply by dawn evans on December 5, 2011 at 12:24am

I'm just starting my journey in Hypno and have trained using Ethical Hypno Band at the hospital that I work in. I have worked on 3 clients up to now and I always start with Mindful eating. With this programme I spend the first session going through an eating diary and getting as much info about there eating habits as I can then some deep relax work and seed in Mindfulness and anything that has come up in the feedback. I then have my client sit and eat with me a wide range of foods are placed on the table and they can eat anything they wish, nothing is restricted but they can only place 3 items of food on there plate at any one time and remove it should it displease them. This takes around 3 hours and I am finding that they already begin to lose weight and become more aware of what they need to do to change there habits in eating. 2 of these clients are now into the last week of installing the band and I await to see how they have been. One client felt she was happy just to carry out mindfulness eating and to come back to me at a later date should she feel the need for installing the hypno band.

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Permalink Reply by John B. Lee IV on December 5, 2011 at 6:49am

There are few experiences as experientially involved as eating (drugs, sex,?). By this I refer to the sensory overload- taste, aromas, textures, appearance, sounds and then consider emotions and memories and how they all intertwine.

With that, understand that some people need to feel as if they are involved in a process, procedure or program. The Hypnotic Gastric Band is great for people with these needs. It is a multi-session compounding approach accounting for all sensory considerations as well as emotional conditioning. I would consider it a very involved metaphor.

In addition, it is a very package-able and marketable "product" that offers a more tangible feel to the client.

What are the downsides?

It requires a huge commitment from the client. It should be understood that a medical professional should be consulted throughout the process as there is a huge difference in ingestion. You will read a lot of scripts and if creating your own program, write a pile of scripts. You should have recordings that are specific to each session. Training can be pricey if you are going to adopt a program that is on the market while development of your own program is quite consuming.

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Permalink Reply by Donna Carter on December 5, 2011 at 8:22am

Maybe....I have a bit more learning to do on this.

and although it puts me on stage with the potential of rotten tomatoes thrown at me...

yaaa..uh..... I don't get it.

Please, someone tell me how this gastric-band is different than say....Ritalin.

I mean, ya...it looks like it has results - but at what price?

I hope someone takes me seriously (with positive intentions) because, heck... I'm a business woman as well as a hypnotherapist. I do see the potential of offering this extra tool. If only....I thought I was doing more good than harm.

I'm not opposed to changing my thinking.

Thanks,

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Permalink Reply by Marc Carlin on December 5, 2011 at 12:47pm

Donna,

I think you are confusing the actual operation with the hypnotic process.

There is no physical changes taking place when using a virtual approach with the Virtual Gastric Band.

I can only speak about what our goals are when using the program that I use and help promote, Sheila Granger's Virtual Gastric Band. Our aim is to encourage our clients to get back in touch with their physical ability to notice when they've eaten enough food. And then train them to stop.

Using the virtual gastric band is the tool that's used to remind the client unconsciously to recognize the full signal and through hypnotic mental rehearsal, respond appropriately by stopping eating.

I don't see how that in any way is similar to taking a powerful drug like Ritalin to change behavior.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on December 5, 2011 at 1:32pm

Hi D-Cee,

I agree with Marc -- All of the hypnotic approaches that I am aware of use the virtual surgery/band as a SYMBOLIC tool to help their clients focus on feeling full towards developing healthier habits...

Marc Carlin said:

Donna,

I think you are confusing the actual operation with the hypnotic process.

There is no physical changes taking place when using a virtual approach with the Virtual Gastric Band.

I can only speak about what our goals are when using the program that I use and help promote, Sheila Granger's Virtual Gastric Band. Our aim is to encourage our clients to get back in touch with their physical ability to notice when they've eaten enough food. And then train them to stop.

Using the virtual gastric band is the tool that's used to remind the client unconsciously to recognize the full signal and through hypnotic mental rehearsal, respond appropriately by stopping eating.

I don't see how that in any way is similar to taking a powerful drug like Ritalin to change behavior.

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Permalink Reply by Donna Carter on December 5, 2011 at 4:52pm

I think the part that sparks my interest in your post, Michael, is the part that says.."towards developing healthier habits."

Maybe I should understand - just because it has not been mentioned...doesn't necessarily mean the promotion of a healthier lifestyle has been glossed over.

I'm inclined to step back into my box until further research and...a few programs later. I am addicted to research, as you know.

If anyone knows which program promotes the healthiest lifestyle...maybe I should start there.

@mark, thank you for your comments. My comparison to Ritalin stems from my own paradigm of...that particular drug does not 'solve' the problem. Just as I tend to believe (after more and more research over the last 3 years) over-weight in our society is more a lack of nutrients as opposed to hidden emotional issues. And...having this opinion, you can see if...I believe this... if we take one malnutritioned person and cut their already low amount of nutrient intake in half...we would not be solving the problem and instead creating a worse one.

It's where my thoughts are at... at the moment.

Thanks,

Michael Ellner said:

Hi D-Cee,

I agree with Marc -- All of the hypnotic approaches that I am aware of use the virtual surgery/band as a SYMBOLIC tool to help their clients focus on feeling full towards developing healthier habits...

Marc Carlin said:

Donna,

I think you are confusing the actual operation with the hypnotic process.

There is no physical changes taking place when using a virtual approach with the Virtual Gastric Band.

I can only speak about what our goals are when using the program that I use and help promote, Sheila Granger's Virtual Gastric Band. Our aim is to encourage our clients to get back in touch with their physical ability to notice when they've eaten enough food. And then train them to stop.

Using the virtual gastric band is the tool that's used to remind the client unconsciously to recognize the full signal and through hypnotic mental rehearsal, respond appropriately by stopping eating.

I don't see how that in any way is similar to taking a powerful drug like Ritalin to change behavior.

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Permalink Reply by Adrienne on December 5, 2011 at 5:21pm

Hi Donna, perhaps the confusion is in the word weight-loss when in actual fact they hypnoband virual gastric band programs are - or could be - termed "healthy weight management" - the Hypno Band program I deliver is all about getting to a healthy weight and requires a doctor's referral in many instances - it involves a lot of preparation about eating healthily and what that means and promoting regular excercise that fits the person's lifestyle. The other weight-loss/weight management program I use is from HMI which is also very good about exercise and changing food eating habits and examining emotional reasons for eating. A lot of the HMI program is based around Bob Greene's book "The Best Life Diet" (he is Dr Oz of Oprah fame). This program promotes the use of 10,000 steps and a pedometer. Cheers Adrienne

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Permalink Reply by Marc Carlin on December 5, 2011 at 6:46pm

Hi Donna,

I think you are right in bringing up the nutritional aspect as very important in health. But in my experience it's a part of the problem and a part of the solution. As a hypnotist, and not a nutritionist, I do not council my clients on their nutritional needs. I have studied nutrition and diet independently far longer than I have studied hypnotism, and feel confident in my findings on how to live a healthy life for me. And since I am not a licensed medical doctor or dietician, I avoid providing that type of info to my clients. I do have a number of referral sources for those who are interested in furthering their development in optimal health.

One of the most interesting things I have noticed while helping clients getting back in touch with their body signals for eating correct quantities is how quickly their self esteem increases. Most people who have sought my help with weight loss, even before I was doing Sheila Granger's Virtual Gastric Band, already knew what to eat and what exercises to do to be healthy. What they lacked was the ability to follow through on that knowledge.

After their self esteem shoots up it's common for my clients to come into the office exclaiming about how they have drastically changed their diet to what they describe as a healthy one. Cooking now even though they hadn't found time before, buying foods that are whole raw foods rather than the processed foods they used to eat.

Going from overweight to healthy and fit requires a continuous and constant dedication to change that has to start somewhere. And when people who thought there was something wrong with them because they didn't recognize the "enough" signal begin to notice it, they become very excited and positive about changing for optimal health. And I think that's a great place to start.

Donna Carter said:

I think the part that sparks my interest in your post, Michael, is the part that says.."towards developing healthier habits."

Maybe I should understand - just because it has not been mentioned...doesn't necessarily mean the promotion of a healthier lifestyle has been glossed over.

I'm inclined to step back into my box until further research and...a few programs later. I am addicted to research, as you know.

If anyone knows which program promotes the healthiest lifestyle...maybe I should start there.

@mark, thank you for your comments. My comparison to Ritalin stems from my own paradigm of...that particular drug does not 'solve' the problem. Just as I tend to believe (after more and more research over the last 3 years) over-weight in our society is more a lack of nutrients as opposed to hidden emotional issues. And...having this opinion, you can see if...I believe this... if we take one malnutritioned person and cut their already low amount of nutrient intake in half...we would not be solving the problem and instead creating a worse one.

It's where my thoughts are at... at the moment.

Thanks,

D.

Michael Ellner said:

Hi D-Cee,

I agree with Marc -- All of the hypnotic approaches that I am aware of use the virtual surgery/band as a SYMBOLIC tool to help their clients focus on feeling full towards developing healthier habits...

Marc Carlin said:

Donna,

I think you are confusing the actual operation with the hypnotic process.

There is no physical changes taking place when using a virtual approach with the Virtual Gastric Band.

I can only speak about what our goals are when using the program that I use and help promote, Sheila Granger's Virtual Gastric Band. Our aim is to encourage our clients to get back in touch with their physical ability to notice when they've eaten enough food. And then train them to stop.

Using the virtual gastric band is the tool that's used to remind the client unconsciously to recognize the full signal and through hypnotic mental rehearsal, respond appropriately by stopping eating.

I don't see how that in any way is similar to taking a powerful drug like Ritalin to change behavior.

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Permalink Reply by Donna Carter on December 7, 2011 at 9:07am

Hey Marc,

I share with ALL my clients the role of food and food ingredients. Yes, I'm not a licensed medical doctor or a dietitian - both educated in the world of the food pyramid and drug therapy - I actually feel MORE qualified to give nutritional advice. Thankfully...in the State of California, I don't have to keep the best kept secret...a secret.

I have posted the required notice on the wall in my office.

If the law ever changes...I am pretty convinced I would do whatever necessary (spoon-fed school) to continue to share the information.

I think I would feel guilty...if I did NOT share this, long term, life altering information. Education on how food nourishes the body changes lives just as hypnosis does.

IMHO...it behooves all people who are in the business of helping people with their mind & body...to get educated in how to feed the body and then share the idea with our clients that 'educating yourself about nutrition' is a win/win. It just makes sense to me.

In our society there is a strange...disconnect...between how we eat and how we feel.

Marc Carlin said:

Hi Donna,

I think you are right in bringing up the nutritional aspect as very important in health. But in my experience it's a part of the problem and a part of the solution. As a hypnotist, and not a nutritionist, I do not council my clients on their nutritional needs. I have studied nutrition and diet independently far longer than I have studied hypnotism, and feel confident in my findings on how to live a healthy life for me. And since I am not a licensed medical doctor or dietician, I avoid providing that type of info to my clients. I do have a number of referral sources for those who are interested in furthering their development in optimal health.

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Permalink Reply by Marc Carlin on December 8, 2011 at 6:24am

Hey Donna,

I encourage my clients to educate themselves on food and nutrition too. Much of what is known about diet and nutrition is belief based. I must decide what to focus on in my sessions. In most cases I choose to work within the belief systems of my client.

I know I have had clients that came to me after working with other hypnotists who forced them (their words) to follow their special diet plan. They didn't like it and refused to accept any change they could have gotten from their hypnotic work with him.

You can choose to put yourself out there as more than a hypnotist not only helping people change behaviors through proper mental training but teaching them a nutrition and diet regimen you believe in. You can also program them to accept dietary changes that will prove helpful or not over the long term. The truth is there is no consensus of what a healthy diet consists of and the food pyramid is a marketing tool for agribusinesses that can afford a good lobbyist.

So rather than getting caught up in the legal, ethical, and social quagmire of nutrition and dietary council, I refer clients who desire that info to qualified licensed professionals and stick to what I am trained to do.