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Permalink Reply by Kathleen Hanover on December 5, 2009 at 11:14am

Here's an interesting article I stumbled across today. Grist for the mill. :)


Commonalities between Ericksonian psychotherapy and Native American healing
Journal of Mental Health Counseling, Oct, 2009 by Timothy C. Thomason

Kathleen Hanover
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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on December 5, 2009 at 11:37am

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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig on December 5, 2009 at 11:57am

That's a fascinating article. I've often said that a hypnotist is a shaman in a necktie. :-)

James

Kathleen Hanover said:

Here's an interesting article I stumbled across today. Grist for the mill. :)


Commonalities between Ericksonian psychotherapy and Native American healing
Journal of Mental Health Counseling, Oct, 2009 by Timothy C. Thomason

Kathleen Hanover
Imagine That Creative - Marketing and PR
"The Pretty Goodest Public Relations, Copywriting & Marketing Lady on the Planet"

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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on December 5, 2009 at 12:26pm

Serendipitously, I just read Peter Levine's Waking the Tiger which contains references to shamanstic rituals that promote healing by the release of pent up energies. I have seen Christian faith healers ellicit similar responses of shaking and trembling. Levine's theory is that this process is the same that animals in the wild go through (after the "freeze state") to move forward and beyond a traumatic experience.

James Hazlerig said:

That's a fascinating article. I've often said that a hypnotist is a shaman in a necktie. :-)

James

Kathleen Hanover said:

Here's an interesting article I stumbled across today. Grist for the mill. :)


Commonalities between Ericksonian psychotherapy and Native American healing
Journal of Mental Health Counseling, Oct, 2009 by Timothy C. Thomason

Kathleen Hanover
Imagine That Creative - Marketing and PR
"The Pretty Goodest Public Relations, Copywriting & Marketing Lady on the Planet"

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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on December 5, 2009 at 12:32pm

That is a thought-provoking article, Kathleen. Thank you! The comparison between the Ericksonian authoritative force that compels change and the Native American spiritual force that similarily invokes change can be extended into other belief systems...

Kathleen Hanover said:

Here's an interesting article I stumbled across today. Grist for the mill. :)


Commonalities between Ericksonian psychotherapy and Native American healing
Journal of Mental Health Counseling, Oct, 2009 by Timothy C. Thomason

Kathleen Hanover
Imagine That Creative - Marketing and PR
"The Pretty Goodest Public Relations, Copywriting & Marketing Lady on the Planet"

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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig on December 5, 2009 at 1:22pm

It certainly can. It's interesting to me that the principles of forming a good hypnotic suggestion and the principles of how to create a good spell are very similar. :-)

And of course, there's the whole "healing story" movement in professional storytelling. Oddly, I've yet to run into a practitioner of that who's heard of Erickson. Folks who teach it often seem quite surprised when I tell them about him.

I've taught a workshop in which I point out the similarities between the battle-speeches in Scandinavian/Anglo-Saxon poetry and the methods of modern sports hypnosis. Both elicit states of confidence, anchor the same, and use future pacing to enhance performance. "Viking Warrior Hypnosis" also makes for a great class title. :-)

Kelley Woods said:

That is a thought-provoking article, Kathleen. Thank you! The comparison between the Ericksonian authoritative force that compels change and the Native American spiritual force that similarily invokes change can be extended into other belief systems...

Kathleen Hanover said:

Here's an interesting article I stumbled across today. Grist for the mill. :)


Commonalities between Ericksonian psychotherapy and Native American healing
Journal of Mental Health Counseling, Oct, 2009 by Timothy C. Thomason

Kathleen Hanover
Imagine That Creative - Marketing and PR
"The Pretty Goodest Public Relations, Copywriting & Marketing Lady on the Planet"

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Permalink Reply by Kathleen Hanover on December 5, 2009 at 3:23pm

I think you should teach "Viking Warrior Hypnosis" at DragonCon. I'll be first in line. :)

James Hazlerig said:

I've taught a workshop in which I point out the similarities between the battle-speeches in Scandinavian/Anglo-Saxon poetry and the methods of modern sports hypnosis. Both elicit states of confidence, anchor the same, and use future pacing to enhance performance. "Viking Warrior Hypnosis" also makes for a great class title. :-)

Kathleen Hanover said:

Here's an interesting article I stumbled across today. Grist for the mill. :)


Commonalities between Ericksonian psychotherapy and Native American healing
Journal of Mental Health Counseling, Oct, 2009 by Timothy C. Thomason

Kathleen Hanover
Imagine That Creative - Marketing and PR
"The Pretty Goodest Public Relations, Copywriting & Marketing Lady on the Planet"

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Permalink Reply by Paul Dennehy (Paul Dee) on December 6, 2009 at 3:13pm

When a client consults, it is for a reason. The client is looking for an answer that s/he cannot logically answer him/her self. For whatever reason s/he sees you as a possible key to unlock the answer. Often because of someone elses referral and often as a last resort because every avenue they've travelled was a dead end. Only one thing is sure and certain. The client has a question. Often the question presented is not the real question, it is the perceived question. Though both the question and the answer are connected, the client is unable to answer the question because s/he is looking in the logical place rather than looking in the correct place for that answer. In order to find the key to unlock the answer for the client, the therapist needs to park his/her belief structure and engage in the realm and interests of the client. It's back to basics in many ways. the customer is always right.
We are all products of our inheritance. genetically and experientially. Hearing and Listening are two different animals genetically linked.

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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on December 6, 2009 at 4:05pm

I like that ... Park your beliefs at the curb... park is beyond neutral ... In neutral you can roll .. Downhill .. driven by gravity or the sheer weight of your opinion. In Park you STOP. and Listen and listen before you start your.. engine. Thanks Paul

Hugh Cole
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Permalink Reply by Paul Dennehy (Paul Dee) on December 6, 2009 at 5:14pm

Thanks Hugh, You obviously drive an automatic transmission vehicle. Here we drive manual transmission so Neutral is exactly that, Going nowhere if you are in Neutral and on level.ground with the hand brake on. I like level ground, it is balanced.

Hugh Cole said:

I like that ... Park your beliefs at the curb... park is beyond neutral ... In neutral you can roll .. Downhill .. driven by gravity or the sheer weight of your opinion. In Park you STOP. and Listen and listen before you start your.. engine. Thanks Paul

Hugh Cole
The Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet.

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Permalink Reply by GIL BOYNE on December 15, 2009 at 7:42am

PAST LIFE REGRESSION IN INDIA

Rationalists seek reality check on TV show on past life
Mumbai, December 14, 2009

The scientific community has labelled a new reality television programme that deals with past life regression therapy to be an irresponsible propagation of blind superstition.

The show, Raaz Picchle Janam Ka, which NDTV Imagine began airing on December 7 and claims it addresses people’s fears by connecting them to their past life, has prompted scientists and rationalists to question its effect on millions of Indian television viewers.

“When India is trying to be scientific and development-oriented, a show like this is highly regressive, perpetuating superstition while playing on peoples’ vulnerabilities, said Jayashree Ramadas, Dean, Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education. “So-called past life regression through hypnotism has been tested and debunked, and besides, it has dangers.

From watching the show for fun, many will start believing it, and it may take hold of their lives, leading to trouble for them and their families.”

Past life regression therapy claims to use hypnosis to delve into the memories of people’s past lives. It has no scientific basis and there is no evidence to show that hypnosis helps recall past life events.

“Science has not been able to establish that we have a past life. Psychologists and psychiatrists do not accept it either,” said Dr Yusuf Matcheswala, a practicing psychiatrist. “The concept of a past life is more of a cultural and religious belief. An unconscious mind can go to any limits. One’s thoughts could also be based on what’s read in history.”

But Nikhil Madhok, vice-president of NDTV Imagine, said that the show was not pitching the therapy as a panacea for medical problems. “The therapy is specific to people who cannot resolve the extreme phobia and paranoia they possess,” said Madhok. “It will not dent scientific beliefs.”

He said that the show has found many viewers because many people believe in a past life. “The channel received 600 phone calls every day for six weeks when we opened telephone lines those wishing to participate,” added Madhok.

In a country where many believe in reincarnation, academicians and rational thinkers feel that the show will reinforce such beliefs. “The show tries to prove to the gullible masses that all their physical and mental problems are derived from their past lives,” said Sanal Edamaruku, president, Indian Rationalist Society.

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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig on December 15, 2009 at 4:13pm

Isn't it fascinating that in one paragraph, the hard-core rationalist says that PLR has been debunked, yet in a later paragraph, the hard-core rationalist says merely that there's no scientific evidence for past lives?

Lack of evidence is not the same as proof of non-existence--any more than it is proof of existence. That's why reincarnation is an article of faith.

On a side note, I saw a few episodes once of a documentary show in which people experienced PLR and then hired a private investigator to find out whether the information recovered was at all feasible. In some cases, the information was startlingly accurate--but of course one never knows whether the show's producers were biased or even if the entire show was faked.

James

GIL BOYNE said:

PAST LIFE REGRESSION IN INDIA

Rationalists seek reality check on TV show on past life
Mumbai, December 14, 2009

The scientific community has labelled a new reality television programme that deals with past life regression therapy to be an irresponsible propagation of blind superstition.

The show, Raaz Picchle Janam Ka, which NDTV Imagine began airing on December 7 and claims it addresses people’s fears by connecting them to their past life, has prompted scientists and rationalists to question its effect on millions of Indian television viewers.

“When India is trying to be scientific and development-oriented, a show like this is highly regressive, perpetuating superstition while playing on peoples’ vulnerabilities, said Jayashree Ramadas, Dean, Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education. “So-called past life regression through hypnotism has been tested and debunked, and besides, it has dangers.

From watching the show for fun, many will start believing it, and it may take hold of their lives, leading to trouble for them and their families.”

Past life regression therapy claims to use hypnosis to delve into the memories of people’s past lives. It has no scientific basis and there is no evidence to show that hypnosis helps recall past life events.

“Science has not been able to establish that we have a past life. Psychologists and psychiatrists do not accept it either,” said Dr Yusuf Matcheswala, a practicing psychiatrist. “The concept of a past life is more of a cultural and religious belief. An unconscious mind can go to any limits. One’s thoughts could also be based on what’s read in history.”

But Nikhil Madhok, vice-president of NDTV Imagine, said that the show was not pitching the therapy as a panacea for medical problems. “The therapy is specific to people who cannot resolve the extreme phobia and paranoia they possess,” said Madhok. “It will not dent scientific beliefs.”

He said that the show has found many viewers because many people believe in a past life. “The channel received 600 phone calls every day for six weeks when we opened telephone lines those wishing to participate,” added Madhok.

In a country where many believe in reincarnation, academicians and rational thinkers feel that the show will reinforce such beliefs. “The show tries to prove to the gullible masses that all their physical and mental problems are derived from their past lives,” said Sanal Edamaruku, president, Indian Rationalist Society.

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