Hypnosis Through Webcam

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Permalink Reply by Wizardoftrance on December 9, 2008 at 8:50am

As someone who does a majority of hypnosis remotely, (via IM voice) I have found in the past two years that there are very few issues that contain risk. Your point about the risk factors being the hypnotist, their training, techniques, etc. is true of hypnosis in general, not specifically remote hypnosis.

It is important that you establish the response system you and your client will use before hand, or to include it as part of a suggestion. (i.e. when you feel you are as deep as you can go, let me know by saying "deeper").

It is important to note that for any trance solutions, the client is very involved with feedback. You are not dealing with someone whose conscious mind is gone, it is just focused. The sessions are very interactive. We are well used to going into and coming out of trance all on our own everyday. The simple phrase "if you become uncomfortable or uneasy in any way, just let me know" works very well. I also set up a suggestion that says "if at any time you no longer want to be in hypnosis, say the word "Exit" and you will immediately be taken to a safe and comfortable place, you will then open your eyes and tell me "Hi" so we can discuss what happened."

Touching a person is NEVER required to hypnotize them. Regress To Cause is a very effective means of helping someone, but it is not the only way, and sometimes is not the best way, depending on the issue.

If you are having unreliable results with remote hypnosis, get with me off line and I can give you some pointers that may help.

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Permalink Reply by Patrick G on December 9, 2008 at 11:46am

Unreliable when compared to a face-to-face.

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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on December 9, 2008 at 1:01pm

thanks for the positive slant you put on this Patrick.

I have used skype, phone, msn, and various other mediums, for hypnosis (not with professional clients, but with other people who are into hypnosis) provided people understand the nature of hypnosis, there is no problem.
people have found it very reliable. I am sure your experience is different, and just as valid.

Face to face is preferable, but not always practical. Reliabilty is dependant on peoples intentions, rather than the actual medium which transmits the message. Any one who wants to respond well to phone hypnosis is free to do so, and can feel free to respond as well as they choose.

Love and hugs,

Fable

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Permalink Reply by Page Turner on March 16, 2009 at 12:57am

I offer webcam sessions and have had good results.
Any therapist who would like to experiment with this, I would be glad to trade sessions with you.

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on March 16, 2009 at 4:50am

Leo,

Dude, as far as hypnosis via text goes, you haven't got a clue...

You can speak to another person, right here, that used to do hypnosis via text chat regularly. If you understand what trance is and how it works, you will soon realize that texting via IM Chat IS a trance state itself, and you can hypnotize without any formal induction very quickly and easily.

I no longer use just text IM because I do erotic hypnosis online. It was too hard to verify age and gender reliably with just text so I went voice exclusive. Popular vernacular among online hypnotists using text includes the word "zapped" because of the lack of need for any formal induction.

The style that Joe uses above is a bit long and drawn out but I attribute that to his newness. I'd post some of my capture files here, but they get way more graphic than may be appropriate just to prove a point.

Be glad to show ya online if you are curious ;)
John

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Permalink Reply by Jonathan Altfeld on March 22, 2009 at 5:10am

Just a recommendation -- anyone considering doing any hypnotic work over the net or Skype or phone or voice chat etc -- knows there is reduced 'bandwidth' of communication.

All the more reason to expand the 'hypnotic bandwidth' of your voice. If you haven't spent serious time & effort developing the quality and skill of your voice to be substantially more hypnotic in parallel forms of hypnotic communication (multi-channel hypnotic communication)... then you're operating from an impoverished use of your own voice, and thus not maximizing your own ability to utilize Skype or phone effectively.

Some starting recommendations: Learn to completely & independently control your volume, pitch & rate. Most of you reading my post here will likely have these 3 linked, unconsciously, and if you increase or decrease one while you're talking, you'll automatically increase or decrease one or both of the others.

My opinion -- any hypnotist (let alone hypnotherapist) needs total and absolutely independent control of these submodalities to be able to claim any vocal flexibility whatsoever. If these 3 voice qualities are inappropriately "linked" for you -- then chances are it's a really solid sign there's an extensive list of other things you should improve as well about your voice. Your voice is your hypnotic instrument! Why aren't you investing in keeping it finely tuned??

To learn more about how to use your voice more effectively, check out my group here for starters.

Best regards,

- Jonathan Altfeld

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Permalink Reply by Antonio on March 22, 2009 at 5:48am

We'll apparently you've never met me or any number of other people who have had really great therapuetic hypnosis sessions via the internet. I personally have had great success with hypnosis via skype.


Are you practicing hypnosis to help the client or to make a buck? Just my 2 cents. Karen

Actually I do all my work free of charge...

Also you talk about having to touch to anchor positive feelings...Have you ever heard of using your voice to anchor positive feelings. You know there is an interesting concept, maybe you haven't heard of it. Its called READING...try it sometime.

Antonio

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Permalink Reply by Jonathan Altfeld on March 22, 2009 at 6:38am

Also someone mentioned "therapy is voice, therapy is sound," and asked why touch would ever need to be involved.

Obviously it doesn't need to be involved and certainly if there is any local/regional legal reason why it shouldn't be, then by all means, keep touch out of it.

For those who are looking for an academic reason why touch in some circumstances might be useful, here's one (and it has nothing to do with being the shoulder someone can cry on, or offering hugs, or doing things friends do with friends).

In anchoring, look to of the well-formedness principles of anchors. Anchors are MORE LIKELY to be stronger & last longer... when they involve more sensory systems rather than less. Any anchor that involves a touch, a visual display, and/or a sound as well -- WILL be stronger than an equivalent anchor with 1 less sensory system, or, just with a visual display, or just one sound. Using multiple sensory systems together makes for a stronger and longer-lasting anchor. This applies to standard anchors, zip/sliding anchors.. and just about any anchoring scenario you can imagine. Can you do anchoring without touch? Certainly. Will your anchoring be stronger & more effective if you include touch? Absolutely.

Given this principle, I also recommend

(a) if your local laws state 'no touching' then don't touch. Period.

(b) if you're going to touch your clients, then video-record your sessions too and get client to sign a waiver allowing you to record your sessions for mutual protection and only to be viewed/used if ever there's a private disagreement. It's a litigious world out there.

Regards,

- Jonathan Altfeld

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Permalink Reply by Antonio on March 22, 2009 at 7:00am

Jon...what if you were to have a skype session with someone and wanted a kino anchor...Could you have someone on their end do the kino part?

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Permalink Reply by Jonathan Altfeld on March 22, 2009 at 7:21am

Sure you can do that, but there's no way to guarantee the right timing, which means, your efforts may be worse than wasted -- they may be a distraction to progress rather than assisting the effort.

If you're the practitioner, the responsibility for getting the timing right -- is yours and yours alone. Timing can make the difference between an anchor that works beautifully, and one that fails miserably. Add in the automatic delay that Skype adds for the time it takes for video data to synchronize with real time, and it's going to be mighty difficult to get precise timing -- for the touch to be in contact exactly when the visual is there or exactly when the sound is being heard. Because the other person is NOT hearing the sound when you're saying the sound, and then there's double-delay for the time it takes for you to see them touching themselves. It's a can of worms.

Typically when I coach via Skype, I either do a mix of Visual & Auditory anchors myself -- where I own the anchor timing 100% (no kino at all) -- or I teach the client everything I want them to know about setting/firing a specific anchor (with kino as needed), and have them manage it 100%. Mixing me doing part of the anchor with them doing part of the anchor, over Skype & such, when we're not together in person , is -- in my opinion -- a license to be sloppy with timing. And if there's one thing I'm not when I do coaching -- it's sloppy.

Regards.

- Jonathan Altfeld
Mastery InSight Institute of NLP

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Permalink Reply by Pattie Freeman CH.t, MST on March 22, 2009 at 5:53pm

I have clients I hypnotize over the phone..so I guess webcam would be the same only you would have a better view of the client so you can see the response...so Yes...

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Permalink Reply by Beth Pry on February 26, 2010 at 5:30am

Thank you so much for these wonderful ideas...I do quite a bit of remote hypnosis and was not aware of these language patterns you offered. I appreciate that and am going to integrate into my practice. Blessings, Beth

Wizardoftrance said:

As someone who does a majority of hypnosis remotely, (via IM voice) I have found in the past two years that there are very few issues that contain risk. Your point about the risk factors being the hypnotist, their training, techniques, etc. is true of hypnosis in general, not specifically remote hypnosis.

It is important that you establish the response system you and your client will use before hand, or to include it as part of a suggestion. (i.e. when you feel you are as deep as you can go, let me know by saying "deeper").

It is important to note that for any trance solutions, the client is very involved with feedback. You are not dealing with someone whose conscious mind is gone, it is just focused. The sessions are very interactive. We are well used to going into and coming out of trance all on our own everyday. The simple phrase "if you become uncomfortable or uneasy in any way, just let me know" works very well. I also set up a suggestion that says "if at any time you no longer want to be in hypnosis, say the word "Exit" and you will immediately be taken to a safe and comfortable place, you will then open your eyes and tell me "Hi" so we can discuss what happened."

Touching a person is NEVER required to hypnotize them. Regress To Cause is a very effective means of helping someone, but it is not the only way, and sometimes is not the best way, depending on the issue.

If you are having unreliable results with remote hypnosis, get with me off line and I can give you some pointers that may help.

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