Hypnosis to make reading/learning more interesting/desirable

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Permalink Reply by Dan Cleary on March 23, 2012 at 3:59am

ADHD is bogus.

  

You can pay attention to things you like.

You know that.

So... how would you like the studies that SEEM boring?

Consider that many scientific studies are written by and for people who want to sound or seem smart.

Dexedrine (SPEED) as you know is nasty stuff as a daily bread.

HOWEVER...

You also know how the pill tastes.

How it feels to swallow.

How long it takes to begin to kick in. (and it does KICK-IN does it not?)

  

In reading your message I notice that it is nearly impossible to have written IMPOSSIBLE more often.

  

If you were to reread lines 8, 9 and 10

as though you were REALLY INTERESTED to find the hidden message...

You just might.

A friend once told me after I had said that I was bored:

An intelligent person is never bored...

Only challenged to find the interesting parts.

How important are the studies to the outcome you desire?

How much of the language they use is SMART TALK?

(I know what I mean which proves I must be smart!)

Since you already state that you can find no reason NOT to be able to feel as interested as you feel as if you had taken Dexedrine, imagine that you had begun to kick-in the ability to focus that was triggered by the drug.

And see how long it lasts the first time.

Practice makes...

After all, it simply causes a response that your system knows how to do.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on March 23, 2012 at 4:09am

Hello Finbar--

Know about, heck I wrote the book on this kind of thing. Actually, I co-wrote the book with Alan Barsky and I am happy to send you a complimentary copy of our guided self-hypnosis program in the spirit of encouraging the advancement of science. Send me your email ads via Ht.com PM and I will send it to you

Michael E.

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Permalink Reply by Finbar Dooley on March 23, 2012 at 4:28am

Thanks a lot for the replies! Dan: I have been contemplating the idea of being able to trigger the ability by imagining it but my doubts were holding me back. Hearing a hypnotherapist suggest it will greatly reinforce the idea that I'll be able to do it, thanks!

Michael: Thanks a lot, I've been looking for a good book on hypnosis but I have trouble determining which authors can be trusted or not seeing as many people write books simply to sell them. Since you're offering it in the spirit of encouraging advancement of science then I can safely assume its genuine.

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Permalink Reply by Bill Kennedy on March 23, 2012 at 4:31am

ADHD is not bogus.  Over diagnosed, yes, but not bogus.  See this discussion:  http://www.hypnothoughts.com/group/kidsworks/forum/topics/is-adhd-o...

Does it apply in this case?  There is not enough information to form a conclusion.

What I would encourage you to do is listen carefully to the conversation going on inside.  Clearly, there is a conflict about where you are headed.  Being interested in a subject may not be enough motivation to submit to the kind of disciplined work necessary to make that subject your career.  Spend some time imagining your future as a scientist.  Be very detailed.  Imagine your day to day work.  What will you do?  Who will employ you?  What will you accomplish? What will you have to put up with?

Next, give yourself permission to dream of a completely different future.  If nothing comes, then prod your imagination with possibilities, like being a professional clown, an astronaut or a movie star.  Be patient and let it bubble to the surface.  You're looking for something that engages you to the point where you're willing to put up with the boring stuff because you know that it's a necessary step to getting to where you want to go.

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Permalink Reply by Finbar Dooley on March 23, 2012 at 4:56am

Bill: I think that might be it. Imaging where I want to go, what pops into my head is working as some kind of scientist in a research facility in Antarctica or some other isolated location, preferably on my own but realistically, with a small group of scientists. I'm a loner, I like solitude. I also like the idea of being in some unexplored, desolate place like Antarctica. I also like the idea of working in the Amazon jungle, I originally wanted to become an ethnobotanist and study psychoactive and medicinal alkaloids of various plants or other organisms found in the jungle, thats what got me into chemistry in the first place. A scientist is definitely what I want to become, but not a chemist. The idea of working as a chemist for some pharmaceutical company makes me kinda depressed. I just looked at my lecture notes with this Antarctica research lab idea in my mind and suddenly it all looks a whole lot more interesting. Any of these jobs involving isolation look very desirable to me. For example, thinking about being a park ranger or something makes me feel good cuz that would involve a lot of isolation. According to the psychiatrist, I have high functioning autism, which would certainly explain a lot. Whether I am autistic or not is inconsequential though, I will be real happy with a job that involves isolation in a desolate place.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on March 23, 2012 at 5:20am

Bill wrote:

"What I would encourage you to do is listen carefully to the conversation going on inside."

Generally speaking the above advice would be great advice, but I wondered how Finbar would react to it because Finbar wrote:

"I have no internal dialogue, meaning I have no voice in my head. I think mainly in pictures. How will this affect my

hypnotisability?" in another discussion.

The great news is that Finbar was able to jump into Bills advice without negatively reacting to the suggestion to listen to his inner-conversations - He understood the meaning and acted accordingly...

 Very cool...

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Permalink Reply by Dan Cleary on March 23, 2012 at 5:25am

Michael:

I wonder what it would be like to imagine how we look when we are curious about something?

Picture that!

Dan

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Permalink Reply by Bill Kennedy on March 23, 2012 at 5:33am

Wow!  

Michael's right.  I should have paid more attention to your wording, but I think you've gained a significant insight all on your own.  Now that you have an inspiration, research it and test it.  Make it real.  Find out what you have to do to get there.

Congratulations!  Welcome to the next level.

Finbar Dooley said:

Bill: I think that might be it. Imaging where I want to go, what pops into my head is working as some kind of scientist in a research facility in Antarctica or some other isolated location, preferably on my own but realistically, with a small group of scientists. I'm a loner, I like solitude. I also like the idea of being in some unexplored, desolate place like Antarctica. I also like the idea of working in the Amazon jungle, I originally wanted to become an ethnobotanist and study psychoactive and medicinal alkaloids of various plants or other organisms found in the jungle, thats what got me into chemistry in the first place. A scientist is definitely what I want to become, but not a chemist. The idea of working as a chemist for some pharmaceutical company makes me kinda depressed. I just looked at my lecture notes with this Antarctica research lab idea in my mind and suddenly it all looks a whole lot more interesting. Any of these jobs involving isolation look very desirable to me. For example, thinking about being a park ranger or something makes me feel good cuz that would involve a lot of isolation. According to the psychiatrist, I have high functioning autism, which would certainly explain a lot. Whether I am autistic or not is inconsequential though, I will be real happy with a job that involves isolation in a desolate place.

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Permalink Reply by Barry Neale on March 23, 2012 at 6:23am

Hi,

 

Putting the ADHD aside lets look at what you actually want.

You say it's impossible to learn something if you find it boring. Well, boring is just a mental state made up of your physiology, your focus, and your languaging.

So the solution is not to take drugs or be labelled, it is to change your state.

One of the best speed reading programs is called Reading Genius by Ed Stracher and one of the key component is BEFORE you start to read get yourself in powerful state of curiousity. So before you sit down to read, stand up move about and recall times when you were really, really curious, like maybe as a child, the night before Christmas when you couldn't wait to find out what would be under the tree in the morning..... or a time when you were about to learn something so incredible it was about to change your life... and stand how you would be standing if you were really curious.... breath how you would be breathing if you were really curious.... and what would you be saying to yourself? Get yourself to a level 10 of curiousity then pick up the book, staying in this state and look at the front cover and say "OOOoooooo" in curious tonality, flip it over that look at the back and make the same noise, and staying really curious open the book and look at the index and start to get excited, thinking OOOooo I wonder what I am going to learn? Then sit down and start to devour the book......

 

It's all about state. If you get in the right state before hand reading the book will be a totally different experience.

 

BTW I just read an article saying the ADHD does not exist in China. There is no Ritalin and the children seem to learn pretty easily. Maybe the Tiger Moms know something we don't in the label happy, drug inducing west?

 

regards

 

barry 

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on March 24, 2012 at 10:09am

@ Barry-

"Putting the ADHD aside lets look at what you actually want."

Yes! - Yes! Yes!  

FYI - The guided self-help program that I sent to Finbar is based on learning how to move into ideal "states" for study, work and/or play... 

Side Conversation:

@ Barry, Nath and Bill-

Consider the possibility that ADHD is diagnosed and treated very differently in Canada, the UK and the US.  

Dan is right on -- the way ADHD is diagnosed and treated in the US is bogus, racist and harmful.

Barry Neale said:

Hi,

 

Putting the ADHD aside lets look at what you actually want.

You say it's impossible to learn something if you find it boring. Well, boring is just a mental state made up of your physiology, your focus, and your languaging.

So the solution is not to take drugs or be labelled, it is to change your state.

One of the best speed reading programs is called Reading Genius by Ed Stracher and one of the key component is BEFORE you start to read get yourself in powerful state of curiousity. So before you sit down to read, stand up move about and recall times when you were really, really curious, like maybe as a child, the night before Christmas when you couldn't wait to find out what would be under the tree in the morning..... or a time when you were about to learn something so incredible it was about to change your life... and stand how you would be standing if you were really curious.... breath how you would be breathing if you were really curious.... and what would you be saying to yourself? Get yourself to a level 10 of curiousity then pick up the book, staying in this state and look at the front cover and say "OOOoooooo" in curious tonality, flip it over that look at the back and make the same noise, and staying really curious open the book and look at the index and start to get excited, thinking OOOooo I wonder what I am going to learn? Then sit down and start to devour the book......

 

It's all about state. If you get in the right state before hand reading the book will be a totally different experience.

 

BTW I just read an article saying the ADHD does not exist in China. There is no Ritalin and the children seem to learn pretty easily. Maybe the Tiger Moms know something we don't in the label happy, drug inducing west?

 

regards

 

barry 

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Permalink Reply by Ricky Strode on March 24, 2012 at 10:45am

Hello Everyone,

                        I figured I would throw some stuff out there. I am going to skip quite a few things since they have already been covered very successfully. I am going to just go into some steps that could be taken, but there are many, many more ways, but I am going to keep it very simple. Okay, basically one wants to go from some states of mind and lead them towards the outcome of being able to read and study said subject and possibly more enjoyably. With that said, the rest is not important.

The important part here is not that they do not do it, but rather they do and it is not associated with everything that it needs to be associated to. Hence, the problem state. One simple way to do this would be the swish pattern. Another way to do this would be to create a generalization of when they are able to do this with other things. Basically, it is taking three or more examples and creating a generalization out of them, so that that generalization can be applied towards the problem state. Basically, this is creating a stacked anchor that can be fired off during the negative state. I suggest overlapping the senses during the desired state and staking the anchors this way before going and firing them off the negative states. This gives them just that little bit of extra that can be the difference that makes the difference. Do it for something simple and it does not need to be full blown. For instance, overlapping the kinesthetic's with the visual senses, but only make it outline it to give it an extra kick. 

After you are done doing that, then repeat the process of firing off the desired state anchor off in at-least three to five examples and then future pace (This is important). Future pacing is not enough. There has to be ecology and making sure that the state changes enough. I have found at times that I may have to set up a chain of anchors to propel them through it, because they had pretty much made it so they could do it, but so far through it said negative behavior would repeat.  I usually use the swish pattern before doing this. They seem to work together very nicely. It is like it sets the scenery and the rest fills in the details. This should be done while in deep trance. After you are done, test the work by having them do whatever it is they were having issues with.

There are many, many, many more ways, but for this example this is one of the fastest, easiest and effective ways that I have came up with and this is my specialty. I see more people for issues with learning than anything else. 

Your In-Trance To Success

Ricky Strode 

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Permalink Reply by Lisa B on March 24, 2012 at 2:13pm

Hi Finbar,

   Why not take a little time off and give McMurdo station (or the others) a try in any job that might be available to get a feel for how that is going to be for you? Look outside the box for a position you might not normally choose. It could fire you up and inspire you and or open your experience up to new possibilities. I considered the same a while back at McMurdo. Heck I might still do it <g> Very remote places have much the same attraction for me. It may give you valuable information about the lives and culture of scientists that will help make your path clearer. It will certainly be a very interesting experience. There are often more things really possible than we allow ourselves to believe at any one time. 

   Maybe it is time for an adventure.

  British Antarctic Survey

  United States Antarctic Program

  Also your inner dialogue doesn't have to be a voice. It can be anything including pictures or feelings or other ways. Awareness and inner communication can be fluid and shifting between modes or primarily one mode. That many people experience it as a voice for their thoughts means just that-that some people do-not all. People experience trance and mind in their own way. There is no one real or true way. It is what it is. For you. 

gentle day,

Lisa

ps- one might find penpals in the Antarctic to get an idea of positions which aren't yet advertised or possibly advertised at all. 

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