Hypnosis without trance

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Permalink Reply by James Tripp on February 17, 2010 at 10:25am

Rachel, what is the 'it' that you say is not unique? Have you any experience of my training or concepts? I am not claiming to have invented anything, but I do have a unique model for what I do. You cannot argue with this because you don't know my stuff.

I'm sure your partner has been doing his thing since '93, and there may be some or many overlaps with my thing (this is a guess because I don't know his material), but his thing and my thing are still not the same, because we will have different models and approaches.

I am also sure that you partner does a wonderful job, and probably doesn't really need you trying to diminish the work of others (when you know near nothing about it) in an attempt to boost his reputation.

All the very best

James

Rachel Houghton said:

Sadly, with respect its not unique to you James,

it uses the exact same building blocks and psychological principles that my partner has been teaching people since 1993.

I would go so far as to say that his latest dvd set (with added materials) includes everything people would need to know about "hypnosis without trance" and way more besides,

may i suggest you grab his free report from: http://magicalhypnotist.wordpress.com/2010/02/03/hypnosis-nlp-expos...

Theres lot to study in the above package, some of it was released 3 years ago, the majority years earlier than that and so it pre-dates anything you've put out on the market James,

Actually to be honest I'm amazed that anyone who claims to have been doing hypnosis for years or claims to have knowledge of hypnosis would on any level see this as anything other than one of many uses of the true psychological building blocks which are the root to all hypnotic and hypnotic style phenomena whether the persons eyes are open or not.

James Rolph said:

Hi Rachel

You are right, no-trance hypnosis is not new, because hypnosis (I believe) has nothing to do with trance. But to say that my approach is a "marketing gimmick" is unfair. I have a particular model for hypnosis which is unique to me, and a particular way of teaching it. The vast majority of the distinctions within my system originate with me, from my own experience of doing hypnosis.

May I suggest that you grab my free report at:

http://www.hypnosiswithouttrance.com/

All the very best

James

Rachel Houghton said:

My partner has been teaching how to do this since 1993 (yes over 18 years) its nothing new and the "hypnosis without trance" is nothing more than a amrketing gimmick.

Any good stage hypnotist certainly any of them who have done personal training with my partner would be able to do all of these stunts and more with peoples eyes open (or closed) and without the need for any formal trance induction and indeed without any so called hypnosis being used whatsoever.

I suggest you grab the Free 80 Page Report covering all these topics and many more from:


http://magicalhypnotist.wordpress.com/2010/02/03/hypnosis-nlp-expos...

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Permalink Reply by James Tripp on February 17, 2010 at 10:32am

Oh Rachel - I just realised who your partner is! Please forgive me!

And I can assure you that what I am doing ain't what he is doing, and there isn't much of an overlap. And I have done my own research thank you regarding the legality of what I do and am happy with my conclusions.

All the very best

James

P.S. I won't be engaging with you further on this, because, as you know your partner is a notorious 'spam-monkey' (whom I have previously pledged not to engage with).

James

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Permalink Reply by bob burns on February 17, 2010 at 10:38am

Hey Racel,
I believe your partner is a member in here. Do you think he might be able to post? I've some questions I'd like to ask him. So if you could give that wee rascal a scratch and pull him up to the comp I'd really appreciate it. If I heard you correctly, he is your partner right?
regards,
Bob

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Permalink Reply by Jan Krüger on February 17, 2010 at 10:52am

JT: actually there is a video about the non-awareness set that I'll just refer you to: http://ultimatehypnotherapytraining.com/blog/igors-secret-hypnotic-... – as far as I remember, the video is pretty good, and probably lots better than any amount of written explanation I could put here.

Rachel Houghton said:

Incidentally do you offer a full money back guarantee on your course?

I only ask as my partner does on the course here: [...]

Let me get this straight... you were complaining about marketing gimmicks earlier on and now you haven't got anything better to do than to advertise someone else's course by focusing on a different marketing gimmick? All marketing gimmicks are not created equal, it seems.

And is it really necessary to bring up the tiresome old legal thing again? I know that Alex spent a fair amount of time persuading certain authorities of his point of view regarding the laws about hypnosis, but I have yet to see any lawyer or judge take a stand on it, and I don't think there's a lot of benefit in fighting it out between laypeople.

This thread is about hypnosis without the whole downtime trance thing, and not about who "invented" it, nor about how lawful hypnosis happens to be in some country or another, nor about whose hypnosis courses are better. I think it's better to have less posts in a discussion than a lot of extraneous stuff.

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Permalink Reply by Reg Blackwood - The Quicknotist on February 17, 2010 at 10:59am

Nice positive post Bob!
Thanks. It's great to hear some first-hand experience of what James is doing.
It's such a shame others have attempted to hitch a ride on the extraordinary talent and success behind James' work and hijack this thread in a thinly veiled attempt to publicise their own, no doubt inferior work.
Cheers!
Reg

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Permalink Reply by bob burns on February 17, 2010 at 11:00am

Well written Jan!
I think it's interesting how some pupils become just like their masters. Assuming of course it IS the pupil who is postiing here... and NOT the master???
It's GREAT being psychic!!!

Bob

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Permalink Reply by Ricky Strode on February 17, 2010 at 11:38am

This is one of the most inteligent things I have heard on here. We must to be able to advance in anything we need to challange our belief structres, because in reality nothing we know if ever absolute. Tomorrow everything we know could become obsolete so challanging and continually add to what you already know is like an ability to be able to adapt and ability to adapt to our constantly changing reality.

bob burns said:

Hi Rachael,
I'm sure you and your partner know exactly what your doing, as did the extremely highly experienced hypnotists from all over the world who attended this course with me with a collective experience of some 200 years plus.
Whilst everyone in there including myself totally understood that the concept of this was nothing new (as you say: we all know that part), everyone confirmed the the 'procedure' was in fact completely new and applauded Tripp for moving our art just that tad further. Yes I've been hypnotising people with eyes open for over 30 years. This is something different. Some will instantly get that. Whilst others... simply cannot.
By the way, if I can just add that for you it may well seem a marketing gimmick, and of course if it seems that to you then quite simply... it is. But to many of us it is absolutely no such thing and we find the whole process fascinating.

Bob

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Permalink Reply by James Tripp on February 17, 2010 at 12:48pm

Thanks Reg, you top fella, you!

James
www.HypnosisWithoutTrance.com

Reg Blackwood - The Quicknotist said:

Nice positive post Bob!
Thanks. It's great to hear some first-hand experience of what James is doing. It's such a shame others have attempted to hitch a ride on the extraordinary talent and success behind James' work and hijack this thread in a thinly veiled attempt to publicise their own, no doubt inferior work. Cheers!
Reg

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Permalink Reply by bob burns on February 17, 2010 at 2:51pm

Thankyou Reg & Ricky for your kind words. And of course you and others total understanding of what is being actually said here without any stupid claims being made.

Bob

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on February 17, 2010 at 3:05pm

And thank you for sharing this with everyone Bob.

John

bob burns said:

Thankyou Reg & Ricky for your kind words. And of course you and others total understanding of what is being actually said here without any stupid claims being made.

Bob

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Permalink Reply by Darren Altman on February 17, 2010 at 4:20pm

Bob,

congrats to you for having success with this model. You're right it is a fantastic was of achieving phenomena without the eyes closed hypnosis and yet people are still totally compliant. I love James' approach and have used it LOTS! I find it (as you said) is a great approach to take for those who 'don't want to be hypnotised!' Also, when out and about, it is much more subtle than having someone slumped with their eyes closed in a public place!

Bob, unfortunately (!) Rachel's partner is unable to post here as he has been booted off this forum (and several others) for his gratuitous constant spamming and hijaking of threads for his own commercial gain, which is against the rules of this site. He is instead now using Rachel to hijack threads to promote his own products, as is the case with this one!

James, congrats to you and your success mate, you deserve it. As a friend, it's fantastic to see how far you've taken this and now your dvd set, I'm thrilled for you. I love your approach and am a fan. It works and people are blown away when they are fully alert, yet are unable to move! Truly an innovative approach.

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Permalink Reply by bob burns on February 17, 2010 at 5:00pm

Thankyou John for taking the time to come back. For what it's worth I think it might be a great idea for all of us if you and people like James should get together and share your collective findings. He's a new kid on the block that's for sure, but quite an intelligent one and a natural seeker. With your experience only good things could happen! Surely that's what this place is all about; hypnotists working in collaboration... without talking about their wonderful partners who know better than all of us!
Darren, I have seen your work on youtube. You're simply one of those guys who knows how to hypnotise and the viewer can clearly tell that by watching your style within the first 15 seconds. 'nuff said. Glad to know you and hope to meet up sometime.
Bob

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