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Hypnotherapy Regulation
What are your thoughts concerning regulating hypnotherapy? On the one hand, regulation paves the way for standardization of services (the consumer will know what they should expect to receive during, say, a weight loss hypnotherapy session). On the other hand, it creates an ominous "big brother" atmosphere that can make things a bit more cookie-cutter. Overall, I lean toward regulation because it seems good for the consumer and it will probably help to legitimize our profession.
Tags: Hypnotherapy, Regulation
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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on -
Hi Steve-My concerns as a hypnosis practitioner and educator is that standardization kills creativity and hypnosis is a creative healing art. Besides, licensure and regulation does NOT guarantee respect or utilization... What we need to recognize that being regulated as a licensed or registered health care provider does NOT level the playing field!@ Newly Certified Hypnos and Students,I was an active member of the NIH's first Community Research Initiative on AIDS Reseach from 1988-1992. We were organized and trained to identify, study and mainstream effective complementary and alternative "treatments" for AIDS. We helped mainstream acupuncture for neuropathic pain in AIDS care and we demonstrated the justification for larger studies to determine the role of nutrition, herbs, supplements and mushrooms as part of AIDS care.In my opinion, we are on the fringe of an alternative modality because there is not enough interest or demand for hypnotic services. I believe that we will be accepted if there is a demand for hypnotic services. Example: Many hospitals are starting complemenatry offerings and integrative services - One survey found several of these centers employed certified Reiki practitioners as staff because that's what their patients wanted... None of centers reported offering massage therapy or chiropratic which are licensed and regulatied. If that seems unfeasible - Ask yourself this: How many licensed and regulated Dr's of Chiropractic are employed by hospitials or the military? How many licensed and regulated Massage Therapists are employed by hospitals or the military? These are licensed and regulated professions and they get little or no respect!Here with a link to many of the discussions on this subject-http://www.hypnothoughts.com/main/search/search?q=regulation&pa...
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Permalink Reply by Bill Kennedy on -
A model followed by government in Canada is to give an association of professionals the power to self-regulate. So, doctors are regulated by the Canadian Medical Association and lawyers are regulated by regional bodies, such as the Law Society of Upper Canada.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on
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FYI --Licensed and regulated Practitioners of Complementary and Alternative Medicine Under Attack: Read more here:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/tertiary-education/scientists-urge-u...
Michael E.Visiting IMDHA Mentor
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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig - HypnosisAustin on -
What concerns me is that if the state decides to get serious about regulating hypnosis, whom will they turn to for advice as to what should and shouldn't be allowed?
There's a good chance that legislators who know nothing about hypnosis and really don't want to know any more about it than they have to will do the easy thing--turn to ASCH for advice. And while many members of ASCH have no problem with vocational hypnotists--some happily refer to vocational hypnotists--the stated position of the organization is that only licensed health care professionals should perform hypnosis to help clients.
James
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Permalink Reply by Steve G. Jones on -
We are at a stand-still with widespread (federal) legislation now, and here's why - At this point, many states in the US view hypnotherapy as being similar to vitamins: It might not help, but it probably won't hurt. I think that view is incorrect, since hypnotherapy is the fastest way I know of to help someone change their habits. By the way, I also take about 10 different vitamins per day, since I believe in them too. :)
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Permalink Reply by Juan Acosta on -
Hello all,
I personally think regulation as it "exists" now, with the many certifying bodies, is pretty much useless. As we all know, having the theoretical knowhow that is required to complete a class does not prepare a hypnotist for the real world of hypnotherapy. live practice (not only with other ready and willing students) being an essential step to getting comfortable enough to be effective. If nobody fails a hypnotherapy course, there's no accountability, and "regulation" would just be another stream of revenue for the state(s) without a logical correlation to the quality of the practitioner.Now, if there was an efficient way for certifying bodies to more accurately assess the people they certify, this would be a whole different game. Maybe sending some videos to show proficiency and a certain number of letters of recommendation from actual clients that have been helped by the hypnotist for at least a few different issues. Some standard besides attending a class would be an improvement over just paying the yearly fee and putting a few letters on our name...
I say keep it as is or do it right. But who knows what "right" means?
Juan
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Permalink Reply by Bill Kennedy on
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I'm not convinced that the current bodies teach nearly enough theoretical knowhow, let alone real world preparation.
Juan Acosta said:Hello all,
I personally think regulation as it "exists" now, with the many certifying bodies, is pretty much useless. As we all know, having the theoretical knowhow that is required to complete a class does not prepare a hypnotist for the real world of hypnotherapy. live practice (not only with other ready and willing students) being an essential step to getting comfortable enough to be effective. If nobody fails a hypnotherapy course, there's no accountability, and "regulation" would just be another stream of revenue for the state(s) without a logical correlation to the quality of the practitioner.Now, if there was an efficient way for certifying bodies to more accurately assess the people they certify, this would be a whole different game. Maybe sending some videos to show proficiency and a certain number of letters of recommendation from actual clients that have been helped by the hypnotist for at least a few different issues. Some standard besides attending a class would be an improvement over just paying the yearly fee and putting a few letters on our name...
I say keep it as is or do it right. But who knows what "right" means?
Juan
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Permalink Reply by Tom Grethen on -
It really depends on the country... some have regulation already, quite a bit! In Germany, for instance, it's alot like what James is alluding to: the medical profession appropriating the trade almost entirely for themselves, monopolising many of the issues... unless you're a practisign psychologist or a medical doctor you are not allowed to call yourself a 'clinical' hypnotherapist and you're not allowed to work with all sorts of issues deemed 'medical' - even basic things like stress management and habits! Ridiculous, when we remember that many medical professionals initially learned hypnosis from non-medical hypnotherapists such as Dave Elman... on the other hand, in the wrong hands, hypnotherapy is harmful in that it can deprive a client from getting proper help where it would be needed ... it's a tricky issue really. Some regulation could be good, if done properly, to ascertain certain standards. But that's VERY tricky. It may enhance public confidence in the profession as well. The thing is, Steve - the training you offer, for instance, is so easy to pass for anyone with even the most rudimentary knowledge or experience, so that I would say that if regulation does become widespread, the people who have trained only with you, or a similar online course that isn't really assessed in depth, will be the first to be banned from exercising the profession.
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Permalink Reply by Seth-Deborah Roth on
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We already have the possibility of regulation with the LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL trying to get rid of the profession of hypnosis. Do you really think that if you regulate yourselves with that will stop?!!!!
The different training organizations could start a combined education PR campaign if they stopped fighting each other. If that is the issue.
What would you say a client should "expect" to receive in a weight loss session? 3 sessions, 6 sessions or 12 sessions? Is it ethical to sign them up for 12 sessions at the cost of 11? Paying others a referral fee would be illegal as in other professions or taking them out to dinner as a thank you. How would being regulated influence that an many other questions? Can we do regression? Can you do phobia release or only a psychologist do that? How many hours of training? 100, 700 or 1,000 or 3,000 make you a good hypnotist?
The reason for the tilt of my opinion is that as a Nurse Anesthetist (we are licensed and regulate ourselves) I can tell you that Anesthesiologists are still trying to undermine us and get rid of us. We are always a square peg in a round hole. It has always been like this NO MATTER how well trained you are. (and often we are better trained but that does not matter). Even with many campaigns, most of the public have no idea of what a Nurse Anesthetist does or is. My skills having trained in a 3500 bed hospital are much better than someone trained in a small hospital. It is just how it is. I saw more patients, had a bigger variety and accumulated many more hours than required.
Hypnosis/Hypnotherapists need to make sure they don't try to be a non-licensed psychologist or physician.
If people want to be regulated they should go get their psychology doctorate degree,internship and pass and examination and become a psychologist and use your hypnosis skills in a regulated manner.Below are the requirements for a California Psychologist: plus in 2012
(ALERT-Potential License Denial or Suspension for Failure to Pay Taxes)
- 1. How do I obtain a license as a psychologist in California?To obtain a license as a psychologist in California, each applicant must:
- b) Have applicant fingerprints scanned for a criminal history clearance through a process called "Live Scan." This process requires applicants to go to a Live Scan site for fingerprint scanning services. Live Scan sites are located throughout the state at various locations within each county. For further information about the fingerprint procedures, please review the Fingerprint Procedure form on the Board's web site at http://www.psychboard.ca.gov/licensee/fingerprint.shtml
- c) Possess a doctoral degree in psychology, educational psychology, or in education with a field of specialization in counseling psychology or educational psychology from a nationally or regionally accredited (if recognized by the USDOE), or an approved academic institution that meets the provisions of Section 2914 (g) of the Business and Professions Code, as follows.
An applicant holding a doctoral degree in psychology from an approved institution is deemed to meet the requirements of this section if all of the following are true:- (1) The approved institution offered a doctoral degree in psychology designed to prepare students for a license to practice psychology and was approved by the Bureau for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education on or before July 1, 1999.
- (2) The approved institution has not, since July 1, 1999, had a new location, as described in Section 94721 of the Education Code.
- (3) The approved institution is not a franchise institution, as defined in Section 94729.3 of the Education Code.
- d) Complete 3,000 hours of qualifying supervised professional experience, 1,500 of which must be accrued post-doctorally. For further information about supervised professional experience, please review section 1387 of the California Code of Regulations at http://www.psychboard.ca.gov/lawsregs/
- e) Take and pass the Examination for Professional Practice in Psychology (EPPP) and the California Psychology Supplemental Examination (CPSE). For further information about the EPPP please visit https://www.asppb.org/publications/pdf/IFC.pdf. For further information about the CPSE, please review the Examinations section of the Board's web site at http://www.psychboard.ca.gov/exams/index.shtml
- f) Submit evidence of completing coursework in human sexuality, child abuse, substance abuse, spousal abuse, and aging and long-term care. For further information about the specific requirements for each course, please review Sections 1382 through 1382.5 of the California Code of Regulations at http://www.psychboard.ca.gov/lawsregs/index.shtml
- 1. How do I obtain a license as a psychologist in California?
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Permalink Reply by Steve G. Jones on
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As I see it, there are two possible paths to follow concerning regulation. One path would be to treat hypnotherapy as a vocational skill set. The other would be to treat it as being similar to the training received by a psychologist. The challenge is that we currently have "hypnotherapy doctorates" being awarded by "educational institutions." The reason for my use of quotes here is that these doctorates and the institutions they come from are not properly accredited.
Rather than helping the world of hypnotherapy, they harm it. This is because they are presenting something as a doctorate which is not actually a doctorate. It is an unaccredited "degree" conferred by a company. It is less than a vocational certificate. To have an actual doctorate in hypnotherapy, one would have to first graduate from an accredited university with a bachelors degree. Then they would have to graduate from an an accredited doctoral program at an accredited university. No such programs currently exist in the US.
When I say accredited, I mean programs offered by institutions that are recognized by the US Department of Education (http://ope.ed.gov/accreditation). As you can see from the list, there are NO doctorate-granting hypnotherapy institutions on the list. HMI is on the list, but only as a provider for continuing education for nurses, etc. (providing continuing educational units - CEU's). They also have a one-year hypnotherapy program approved, but clearly a one-year program is vocational, since a doctorate usually takes a minimum of eight years.
Where does this leave us? Back in reality. The only accredited hypnotherapy program available is a vocational program. That is the direction we should probably go with this. By the way, even though the HMI program is accredited, it still currently carries little weight. As far as I can tell, zero states in the US and the majority of clients do not care if the program taken by a hypnotherapist was accredited or not. The net advantage of taking an accredited program is zero. Yes, you can get a student loan to attend, but that leaves graduates with a large bill, not a certificate that is more readily accepted by any governmental institution. The accreditation applies to the program, not the individual.
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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on -
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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on
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BRAVO!
Seth-Deborah Roth said:We already have the possibility of regulation with the LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL trying to get rid of the profession of hypnosis. Do you really think that if you regulate yourselves with that will stop?!!!!
The different training organizations could start a combined education PR campaign if they stopped fighting each other. If that is the issue.
What would you say a client should "expect" to receive in a weight loss session? 3 sessions, 6 sessions or 12 sessions? Is it ethical to sign them up for 12 sessions at the cost of 11? Paying others a referral fee would be illegal as in other professions or taking them out to dinner as a thank you. How would being regulated influence that an many other questions? Can we do regression? Can you do phobia release or only a psychologist do that? How many hours of training? 100, 700 or 1,000 or 3,000 make you a good hypnotist?
The reason for the tilt of my opinion is that as a Nurse Anesthetist (we are licensed and regulate ourselves) I can tell you that Anesthesiologists are still trying to undermine us and get rid of us. We are always a square peg in a round hole. It has always been like this NO MATTER how well trained you are. (and often we are better trained but that does not matter). Even with many campaigns, most of the public have no idea of what a Nurse Anesthetist does or is. My skills having trained in a 3500 bed hospital are much better than someone trained in a small hospital. It is just how it is. I saw more patients, had a bigger variety and accumulated many more hours than required.
Hypnosis/Hypnotherapists need to make sure they don't try to be a non-licensed psychologist or physician.
If people want to be regulated they should go get their psychology doctorate degree,internship and pass and examination and become a psychologist and use your hypnosis skills in a regulated manner.Below are the requirements for a California Psychologist: plus in 2012
(ALERT-Potential License Denial or Suspension for Failure to Pay Taxes)
- 1. How do I obtain a license as a psychologist in California?To obtain a license as a psychologist in California, each applicant must:
- b) Have applicant fingerprints scanned for a criminal history clearance through a process called "Live Scan." This process requires applicants to go to a Live Scan site for fingerprint scanning services. Live Scan sites are located throughout the state at various locations within each county. For further information about the fingerprint procedures, please review the Fingerprint Procedure form on the Board's web site at http://www.psychboard.ca.gov/licensee/fingerprint.shtml
- c) Possess a doctoral degree in psychology, educational psychology, or in education with a field of specialization in counseling psychology or educational psychology from a nationally or regionally accredited (if recognized by the USDOE), or an approved academic institution that meets the provisions of Section 2914 (g) of the Business and Professions Code, as follows.
An applicant holding a doctoral degree in psychology from an approved institution is deemed to meet the requirements of this section if all of the following are true:- (1) The approved institution offered a doctoral degree in psychology designed to prepare students for a license to practice psychology and was approved by the Bureau for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education on or before July 1, 1999.
- (2) The approved institution has not, since July 1, 1999, had a new location, as described in Section 94721 of the Education Code.
- (3) The approved institution is not a franchise institution, as defined in Section 94729.3 of the Education Code.
- d) Complete 3,000 hours of qualifying supervised professional experience, 1,500 of which must be accrued post-doctorally. For further information about supervised professional experience, please review section 1387 of the California Code of Regulations at http://www.psychboard.ca.gov/lawsregs/
- e) Take and pass the Examination for Professional Practice in Psychology (EPPP) and the California Psychology Supplemental Examination (CPSE). For further information about the EPPP please visit https://www.asppb.org/publications/pdf/IFC.pdf. For further information about the CPSE, please review the Examinations section of the Board's web site at http://www.psychboard.ca.gov/exams/index.shtml
- f) Submit evidence of completing coursework in human sexuality, child abuse, substance abuse, spousal abuse, and aging and long-term care. For further information about the specific requirements for each course, please review Sections 1382 through 1382.5 of the California Code of Regulations at http://www.psychboard.ca.gov/lawsregs/index.shtml
- 1. How do I obtain a license as a psychologist in California?
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