I need information on P.T.S.D.

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Permalink Reply by Bevin Reynolds on January 18, 2012 at 11:14pm

Hi All,

I am very much a young, "up and coming" hypnotherapist, in the final stages of my certification. (yes, I am using this as a "pick up" live - haha)...I am required to fullfil case study requirements and have a friend of a friend who was in a rather traumatic car accident involving a large truck. Subsequently she is terrified of trucks and gets incredibly anxious just driving down her own road.  I would really like to be able to assist her with overcoming this fear and so am busy reading up on the Rewind techinique.  I understand the basic concepts, and would love to be able to afford to go on the Uncommon Knowledge course, however as a working student it really is beyond my budget.  Is there anyone on this forum that has more information that I can read or use?

Thanking you so much, from a very sunny and hot South Africa! :)

Bev

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on January 19, 2012 at 6:07am

Hi Bevin,

There are many ways to hypnotically help clients overcome their fears...

Let's keep this between us -- When it's all said and done -- all of the techniques that we use are "magic" -- Meaning our models and their related techniques are empowered by belief-intent-expectancy and excitation. Here's my hint: Your pre-induction set up is where the action is - Once you give your client a reason to believe that the hypnotic process you will be using will help her over-come her fears the hypnosis is easy. The goal is to empower the technique that you will be using before you start your induction... Your pre-talk gently nudges the client into a "Can Do" mindset. If a client is expecting a desired outcome before you guide him or her through whatever induction and/or technique that you decide to use -- Good things will happen!

The detox below is an alternative to the rewind technique--

 

 

 

 

Feel free to model it for helping your client  -- And yes - It can really be that easy to effectively help clients: FYI - Cynthia took one of my advanced trainings and volunteered for a demo of this technique hoping to get relief-

 

"In 2001 I had an auto accident in which I was trapped in my car, between a stopped van and a large truck speeding up behind me. I had nowhere to go, but had to sit and watch as the truck picked up speed and crashed into me. The impact ruptured one disc and caused damage to 7 more discs.

The pain was incredible; the fear of driving became a serious problem for daily life. I was diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I avoided leaving the house and driving at certain times or in traffic. I was fearful behind the wheel, suffered anxiety attacks at the thought of leaving home. For two years the thought of being trapped and hit again increased to the point of panic attacks.

I knew the drugs the psychiatrist suggested were not the answer and that I had the answer inside myself. With Michael Ellner's NLP techniques for phobias, I was able to rid myself completely of the fear and anxiety of driving"

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Permalink Reply by Barry Neale on January 19, 2012 at 6:17am

Just to add my two cents.

 

The NLP double dissociation technique can help with this as can Time Line Therapy with Logical levels of therapy (not the Dilts version)

 

The original EFT course by Gary Graig shows him going into a VA hospital and using EFT on guys who had PTSD since Vietnam. Have an hour of treatment with Gary and they are talking about their experiences as if they were talking about a trip to the mall. Very impressive of Gary to go into the hospital and do this with the cameras running.

 

Don Motton also has a couple of DVDs on PTSD

 

You can really do some good for these guys/gals

 

have fun

 

barry

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Permalink Reply by Susan Parry on January 19, 2012 at 6:35am

I have quite a lot of experience of working with clients with PTSD from motor vehicle accidents. As a counsellor and CBT therapist I work with the person as a whole. I focus on the greatest distress being the PTSD from the accident and the behavioural change, and also on what else is going on in my client's life possibly relationship issues, depression from not working etc.., injuries from the accident, esteem issues perhaps there before the event.

As soon as we start to make progess, I then use the fast phobia technique and have great results. I have clients referred to me from two insurance companies. I use CBT along with hypnotherapy to work with PTSD. I find the client needs to be heard and understood before they can make any progress, it is so rewarding to see traumatised clients starting to get their life back. I may use 3 sessions of hypnosis including (if appropriate) anger issues, acceptance and one focusing on future projection - believing things can be different.

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Permalink Reply by Donna Carter on January 19, 2012 at 8:08am

Ohhhhhhh....the places we can go!

Can you believe this original post was posted 3 years ago! OMG! Wow....  as an update, since this post..

I have looked into ALL the links and books mentioned...taking what I needed...leaving what I didn't. I have found the use of both Richard Nongard's 'mindfulness' and bringing people into the 'now' to be invaluable. Also....I have used Michael Ellner's "Unstuck".... I'm nearing pro status on the Unstuck Michael ~haha. and have found I too....agree with your idea about ...it's not so much about the technique (although I do love techniques) but rather belief-intent-expectancy and excitation. What a great combination to have...a good technique and a good pre-talk.

It's hard to believe it's been 3 years, but it's been a good three years PACKED full....of good education.  Thanks to all who have contributed to my growth and now - the lives of others as well. Your gift just keeps on giving. You are awesome!

D.

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Permalink Reply by Kevin Cole-NLPTrainingQuest.com on January 20, 2012 at 1:16am

I work a lot with clients that have suffered from post traumatic stress-- and there's lot's of good stuff posted on this already.

Here's a few additions to much of the already good advice...

There are different variables you'll want to take into account.

It's not uncommon for those that suffer from post traumatic stress to also suffer from alcohol/drug addictions. Be aware- and prepared for that. Including referring them out if it's out of your scope of expertise.

Also, be aware that if someone has suffered from post traumatic stress for a number of years, often times this will have become somewhat of an "identity" to them and you will want to assist them in creating a better, more resourceful identity.

I've worked with a few clients that worked with a therapist that used EMDR and or EFT with them (I'm a big fan of both by the way), however they only helped them to neutralize the trauma(s) and basically sent them on their way.

What's the problem with that? Well, they were confused... Some of them had held the identity of being a "Sufferer of PTSD" for so many years, that now they even felt guilt for holding onto it and hurting so many through some of their actions, when all this time, they could have "gotten rid of it" years ago.

So the way I worked with them was the same way I work with most of my longer term coaching clients (as opposed to just working with them for 3-4 sessions)... I helped them to overcome the traumas in their past (only took a few sessions to take care of those), helped them learn and experience how to feel good-- really good-- in the present (took a few more sessions for those), and guided them to discover their purpose in life(took quite a few more session to really help them achieve that)...

**Finally, one thing that I strongly recommend AGAINST, is using deep trance for helping a client overcome post traumatic stress-- especially with veterans. Using Richard's mindfulness meditation is one thing (and very helpful as a relaxation exercise), but actually addressing the trauma(s) in deep trance can cause them to flashback to the traumatic incident like a moth to the flame-- and that's NOT what you want. Hence why I like techniques like EFT, EMDR (Which was actually learned from an NLP Technique called "Eye Movement Integration") and Fast Phobia "Cure"... None of them induce deep trance and are quite safe-- when used by a well trained and highly  experienced practitioner.

Hope that helps, and kindly disregard any grammatical errors or other typo's. I'm just heading to bed- it's 2am...

Oh, and yes, ALWAYS get a referral...

-Kevin

NLP Training

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