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Ideomotor signals - valid communication?
Hi,
I have treated over 5000 clients. The hub of my system is hypnotise, establish ideomotor communication and hook this into parts work. I do other stuff too but this is the hub. The parts work is more akin to six step with a single part than integration with two parts. In pretty much every session I elicit the strongest ideomotor signals I can and hook this into the parts negotiation. This of course helps to verify the hypnosis, acts as a springboard to other phenomena and gives the client a novel experience they can talk about.
I have always behaved like the signal is a valid form of communication.
More recently I have questioned that assumption. Note I am not questioning its effectiveness as a physical metaphor or convincer - it sure looks like a yes signal. But is it? I appreciate the movements feel involuntary. But are we really tapping into some unconscious, all knowing part of the mind which all of a sudden can communicate by muscle twitches?
Is there any evidence for that? Or is it just as daft as dowsing. The signals are suggested are they not?
What are your thoughts on the valiidity of the communication rather than the usefulness of the technique?
Anthony Jacquin
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Permalink Reply by Betito on -
IMO the "parts" thing and the hability of any part to communicate via ideomotor signal is just a model that you suggest to the pacient... it´s job is facilitating change or even tricking the mind into change... I think most of these techniques are things we imagine and suggest to the pacient in order to create change... the beauty of ideomotor signs is that it has a powerfull convincer as a part of it.
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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on -
Thanks, anthony,
A very interesting question.
yes, I think it is basically a metaphor, but a metaphor that works! if you do it congruently.
I have done al sorts of therapy with IMRs over the past thirty years, (including helping one woman to get pregnant after years of trying.. reframed the dynamics, and lo and behold she got pregnant.
Funnily enough, in the following year, I fathered my first child, (after over two years of trying), the next door neighbours on either side both got pregnant.
One of whom has been struggling,
and was about to go on IVF treatment.(she had seen me to stop smoking, to see if that would help.)
I am guessing that this metaphor is contagious (like many other myths).
keep using it!
Love and hugs,
Lawrie
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Permalink Reply by Ricky Strode on -
Just like anything else it is useful as long as it is and that is it. However, I am pretty sure more people will state that it is useful than any other statement. Everything is a form of communication is a form of communication. I think of it more, like a feedback loop form of communication (i.e unconscious response, such as body language), because it is markedly different than a conscious response, but it is also a suggested response in most cases, but it can be other wise as well depending on the way one uses it. I hope this helps. By the way all communication is technically a metaphor :).
Your In-Trance To Success,
Ricky Strode
Florida Hypnosis
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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on -
Hi Anthony,
LOVE your recent discussions! In my experience, ideomotor signaling is, as Ricky and other respondents have stated, a form of body language and also serves as a useful metaphor. Here are some ways I use it:
1. To elicit permission (acquiescence granted to enter a deeper trance state or address a particular issue, for example) I find that being able to subjectively communicate in this fashion dissolves fears or hesitation very quickly and serves to build expectation and belief.
2. To bring attention to vital information and discoveries (When you have discovered the reason....let me know with that finger signal.)
3. To deepen trance (signaling can provide a self-directed prompt for a client to let go and drift further)
4. To validate trance (signaling can indicate not only to the client but to me when they are at an appropriate place for the desired place [read:appropriate to them]
5. To alert to any thing that needs attendance. Perhaps I think our work is done...with a simple question, a client can let me know that it is not and needs further attention.
6. A conveyance for communicating intensely personal feelings that the client may not be comfortable verbalizing.
To answer your question about whether the signals are suggestion: isn't everything we do? I am careful to leave the choices as open to my client as possible, but I still must notice that I am the one instigating this tool. And in the end, if it promotes positive change and healing, then it works for me!
Best wishes,
Kelley
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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on -
I see no evidence that IM communication has been scientifically validated as a form of communication with the unconscious.FYI - I believe that the IM-movements are generated by our clients automatic reactions to our suggestions. That explains why the movements appear/feel non-voluntary and I what I believe is meant by by-passing the conscious mind...Michael E.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on -
Everything Hypnotic is a metaphor ,,,, better still a construct invented by the human mind to channel information and communication. Name (or label) a thing and you call it into existence ... USE it and it becomes real in your reality. Ideomotor signaling is VERY real for those the careful explain it to a client ... demonstrate the "expected" response and use it CONGRUENTLY within trance work.
Hugh Cole
The Pretty goodest hypnotist on the planet,
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Permalink Reply by docregal.com on -
Lately, I have enjoyed reading your posts. Indeed I agree with you once more. Our photogenic minds are the originators, inventors and creators of symbolic metaphor.
Hugh Cole said:
Everything Hypnotic is a metaphor ,,,, better still a construct invented by the human mind to channel information and communication. Name (or label) a thing and you call it into existence ... USE it and it becomes real in your reality. Ideomotor signaling is VERY real for those the careful explain it to a client ... demonstrate the "expected" response and use it CONGRUENTLY within trance work.
Hugh Cole
The Pretty goodest hypnotist on the planet,
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Permalink Reply by docregal.com on
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Anthony, from reading your inquiry it appears that you are seeking an explanation that from my perspective can be only addressed metaphysically, that is to say by getting to the source of this knowing: THE ABDOMINAL BRAIN
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Permalink Reply by Anthony Jacquin on -
My question is is it knowing. Or is it just a muscle twitch with a false value attached. But I will take your lead and check out The Abdominal Brain, although the triune brain was enough of a headspin!
Anthony
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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on
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Well Thank you AJ ...We have much in common in the way we view hypnosis. I have often likened the "art of Hypnosis" to an all you can eat buffet. There are so many wonderful dishes served up by excellent chefs. But you can't eat it all. You simply grab a plate and eat what seems appetizing to you. The rest you can leave for someone else whose tastes may differ from yours. It doesn't mean the food is bad... It was just not, your "cup of tea".
Choose your mentors wisely, limiting beliefs are contagious.
Hugh ColeThe Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet
AJ - DocRegal.com said:Lately, I have enjoyed reading your posts. Indeed I agree with you once more. Our photogenic minds are the originators, inventors and creators of symbolic metaphor.
Hugh Cole said:
Everything Hypnotic is a metaphor ,,,, better still a construct invented by the human mind to channel information and communication. Name (or label) a thing and you call it into existence ... USE it and it becomes real in your reality. Ideomotor signaling is VERY real for those the careful explain it to a client ... demonstrate the "expected" response and use it CONGRUENTLY within trance work.
Hugh Cole
The Pretty goodest hypnotist on the planet,
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Permalink Reply by docregal.com on
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This exploration will bring you deeper into esotericism. Enjoy my reality. ;-)
Anthony Jacquin said:
My question is is it knowing. Or is it just a muscle twitch with a false value attached. But I will take your lead and check out The Abdominal Brain, although the triune brain was enough of a headspin!
Anthony
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Permalink Reply by docregal.com on
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Your unique style appeals. Thanks for adding that color to my day. It is refreshing to share this scrumptious smorgasbord with everyone here on a delightful Sunday.
Hugh Cole said:
Well Thank you AJ ...We have much in common in the way we view hypnosis. I have often likened the "art of Hypnosis" to an all you can eat buffet. There are so many wonderful dishes served up by excellent chefs. But you can't eat it all. You simply grab a plate and eat what seems appetizing to you. The rest you can leave for someone else whose tastes may differ from yours. It doesn't mean the food is bad... It was just not, your "cup of tea".
Choose your mentors wisely, limiting beliefs are contagious.
Hugh ColeThe Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet
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