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I'm dying and I have been told to stop smoking now! Please help!
I have someone who 'needs' to stop smoking as instructed by the GP (or MD).
I will remove all associations of the dreaded weed with no issues; however will the 'need to smoke' manifest in some other obsessive behaviour or will the hypnosis make the sub c stop smoking with no manifestation of other obsessive behaviour?
The chap smokes up to 40 per day and has had a terribly abusive childhood. He has worked hard and has a wonderful family life the only thing he has left to conquer is the smoking (his words).
I will remove all associations of the dreaded weed with no issues; however will the 'need to smoke' manifest in some other obsessive behaviour or will the hypnosis make the sub c stop smoking with no manifestation of other obsessive behaviour?
The chap smokes up to 40 per day and has had a terribly abusive childhood. He has worked hard and has a wonderful family life the only thing he has left to conquer is the smoking (his words).
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Permalink Reply by Brett Cameron on -
'needs to stop smoking?' is different to 'wants to stop smoking?' From my experience in the pre talk, if a potential client talks about being instructed by GP to stop smoking, but doesn't indicate that they WANT to stop smoking, I might suggest that hypnosis might not be the best avenue to choose at this time. If indeed they decide that 'no, I WANT to stop smoking' then it is 'game on.' Or maybe reach an initial agreement to cut down and go from there.
As for manifesting into some other obsessive behaviour .... why would it? Use Parts Therapy successfully and the smoking part will come up with a new and productive behaviour that suits the clients new desired outcome blah blah.
Also a question ... what is greater ... the will to live or the will to die? A bit harsh but I'm sure the UC mind can come up with the answer.
Just a thought.
cheers ... Brett
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Permalink Reply by Wayne James Fearn on -
Thanks Brett,
Parts Therapy is a very useful tool.
My original question was with regards to treating the 'symptom but not the cause' and I see how parts therapy can help this.
Yes the language is a very descriptive insight to the client’s mindset.
The question you posed is the reality we all face. I know of some who through ignorance or stubbornness will say they may as well die if they can’t smoke!
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Permalink Reply by Duncan Murray on -
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Re: Hypnothoughts
Strange lad, that Wayne...
Asks questions about smoking cessation, but claims its one of his specialties ..
http://www.hypnotherapistregister.com/WalesMidGlam.htm
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Anon
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Permalink Reply by Wayne James Fearn on
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wow a right miss marple!
Duncan Murray said:Email received through my website...
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Telephone: 11111111111
Message: Hi Duncan
Re: Hypnothoughts
Strange lad, that Wayne...
Asks questions about smoking cessation, but claims its one of his specialties ..
http://www.hypnotherapistregister.com/WalesMidGlam.htm
Enjoy!
Anon
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Permalink Reply by Wayne James Fearn on
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This is a typical scenario and I want to see if the forum would do direct change or do some hypnoanalysis.
So Shoot me!
Duncan Murray said:Email received through my website...
name: Anon
e-mail: anon@anon.com
Telephone: 11111111111
Message: Hi Duncan
Re: Hypnothoughts
Strange lad, that Wayne...
Asks questions about smoking cessation, but claims its one of his specialties ..
http://www.hypnotherapistregister.com/WalesMidGlam.htm
Enjoy!
Anon
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Permalink Reply by Wayne James Fearn on
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Shame there is no one to stand up to the anon bit!
Duncan Murray said:Email received through my website...
name: Anon
e-mail: anon@anon.com
Telephone: 11111111111
Message: Hi Duncan
Re: Hypnothoughts
Strange lad, that Wayne...
Asks questions about smoking cessation, but claims its one of his specialties ..
http://www.hypnotherapistregister.com/WalesMidGlam.htm
Enjoy!
Anon
Somebody's pulling my..... -
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Permalink Reply by Wayne James Fearn on
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Whats wrong with the sub c?
Sub-conscious!
Adrian Tannock said:I would say the answer to your question is 'probably manifest as something else' (most likely a failure to stop smoking, regardless of the hypnosis); I would guess that (like most smokers who find it hard to quit) he will have belief(s) about how smoking helps manage something... Resolve whatever the something is first, if it falls within your experience, and smoking becomes a 'dry habit' - easy to break.
I refused to process the second component of your question based on your injudicious use of the term: "the sub c" Seriously... wtf. :-/
Cheers,
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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on -
Wayne James Fearn said:
Fortunately (or unfortunately), it does not take a 'Miss Marple' to do a little research these days.wow a right miss marple!
Anyone who was interested (a potential client for instance) could put your name into a google search, and within seconds, have access to all of your discussions on here, and various other titbits,
If you think that your contributions here would enhance your reputation, do please feel free to carry on in the same vein.
Love and hugs,
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Permalink Reply by M bishop on -
The want to need to argument is a very powerful one. Most if all smokers at some level want to stop smoking it really doesn’t matter. an approach that I find very effective is disassembling the nicotine addiction belief in incremental stages during a single session with minimal if no hypnosis (maybe just relaxation for ten minutes so the big hairy scary hypno monster wont bite during the session proper seven days later) to a point where the dependency and addiction issues are dissolved. I then ask the client to change the cognitive smoking behaviour by moving the time of the first cigarette of the day further into the day each day and diarising the thoughts while smoking that first one I also instruct them to be on there own to focus on the thoughts and to drink a glass of water to really appreciate the taste of burning leaves in the mouth ( most smokers will disguise the taste tea coffee coke beer gum)
After seven days they are now aware that a habit can change of their own volition and the thoughts usually change with regard to desire for smoking.
Then ask the question do you want to or need to ?
For further information see www.simplestopsmoking.co.uk the evidence against nicotine addiction is being built
Also my for...http://www.hypnothoughts.com/forum/topics/nicotine-addictive-or-smo... -
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Permalink Reply by tc_Burt on -
My husband undertook hypnosis to give up smoking with a third party, he has little recollection, but what worried me most was he developed severe asthma once he gave up, he maintained smoking abstinence for over 6 months but he could no longer walk the stairs without wheezing, he was constantly sick and breathless, he had developed a greater disability and my future with him looked dim. Riddled with guilt he started to smoke on the side, but his health improved hugely, once again he's smoking, however, he can now climb the stairs and doesn't rattle and wheeze all night. Not the first time I've heard this scenario, a local guy said he didn't suffer from oxygen dependancy prior to his doctor telling him to give up or else, and so he complied, and ended up wheelchair bound and oxygen dependant, so this is quite disturbing and in no way will I use aversion therapy to achieve a client's end goal
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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on
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Thanks TC,
Your husband has demonstrated, beautifully, that anyone, can find a way round being a non smoker if they really want to.
If he was committed to being a non smoker, and enjoying good health, he had the choice, of simply doing that.
but he chose to present with asthma symptoms to give a valid excuse to choose to go back to smoking.
Some may interpret this as an indication that the therapy had not been completed.
Of course he could have chosen to seek out a hypnotherapist who would resolve the asthma, whilst remaining a non smoker.
but that was not what he decided to do.
three cheers for freedom of choice.
Love and hugs,
Fable -
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Permalink Reply by tc_Burt on
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He wasn't even convinced by the medical profession that he needed ventolin, was totally dissed with the situation, and for that I am glad and thankful otherwise the guilt issues with having restarted smoking may have sealed his fate through guilt
Fable Goodman said:Thanks TC,
Your husband has demonstrated, beautifully, that anyone, can find a way round being a non smoker if they really want to.
If he was committed to being a non smoker, and enjoying good health, he had the choice, of simply doing that.
but he chose to present with asthma symptoms to give a valid excuse to choose to go back to smoking.
Some may interpret this as an indication that the therapy had not been completed.
Of course he could have chosen to seek out a hypnotherapist who would resolve the asthma, whilst remaining a non smoker.
but that was not what he decided to do.
three cheers for freedom of choice.
Love and hugs,
Fable -
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