I'm nervous about even offering to be honest I want to do this

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on December 30, 2009 at 4:16pm

Hi David,

May I ask why are you nervous?

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on December 30, 2009 at 4:25pm

Hi David,

All you need remember is that each of us, whether we are healthy and walking or bed-ridden and dependent on machinery for survival, can benefit from hypnosis. The mind is always active, bouncing around from one thought to another, sometimes happy, but often distressed, regretful or confused. What a gift it is to have a respite from that busyness! At the very least, you, with your skill, can provide that to these people.
Listen to them. Ask them what they want to experience. And then, help them do it. Mostly demonstrate that THEY are the ones experiencing it and once you have taught them, they can go there over and over again.
No need to be nervous...hop on and enjoy the ride!

Best wishes,

Kelley

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Permalink Reply by David Hill on December 30, 2009 at 4:25pm

The best would be to get hospital and medical aproval befor doing this, They have a hard time talking so understanding them totally is a concern, (love you Doreen) I don't want to just direct sugestion them so not sure how to go about it the way I work, They are so medicatied for many things and hooked up to many things not sure about messing with them, although when I'm on the clock there those are the things I take care of ??? Not sure just some of the reasons

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht said:

Hi David,

May I ask why are you nervous?

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on December 30, 2009 at 5:09pm

Hi Again, David, OK, are you working in a department where you are also friends with the long term care critical patients which most have traches and are on vents, like in the intensive-care?

In this case, you can help, and no need to feel nerves :), well, as to getting a medical approval before doing this, you need to contact their family who are responsible for them, once you have their approval, you get their doctor to agree for the referral, and if you can communicate with the doctor, explain how you can help them, assuming you have an idea.

If you need more Information, feel free to email me, would love to help.

PS: I only helped one person who had a vent tube attached to the trach tube, and from all I know, the trach tube passes through the vocal cords stopping speech at first, and usually they get other tools to communicate, with hypnosis you can give suggestion like this: as you know, the human body have a natural tendency to heal, so lets ask your inner self helping by allowing natural airway to flow...

You will see, that your client may have a great results in processing their personal healing, in just few days, giving them the suggestions that their neck skin and muscles around the "trach tube" are starting to heal and that the initial tube may be exchanged for another type of tube devices to add to the tube to allow him or her (your client ) to talk again.

Hope It helps...

Respectfully, Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
www.HypnoCruise.com

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Permalink Reply by Walt Potter on December 30, 2009 at 5:10pm

David,

Being ill in a hospital bed can really be difficult. Think of what would be nice if you were in their place.

Get their focus, increase the experience of their sensations(if that's ok to do) and tell/read them a story.

Give them a PHS allowing them to relive the experience until you return.

Being there and letting them feel your presence will be a great gift.

Walt

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Permalink Reply by Chris Witherspoon on December 31, 2009 at 10:29am

Somewhere in the St Louis (Missouri) area there is a Hospice house that offers Complimentary and alternative therapies. I have heard advos for it but not recently. The ad mentioned hypnosis, guided meditation( which is hypnosis) acupuncture and massage.

Are you expecting fee for service or do you want to do this on a voluntary basis? Maybe you should write up a proposal for what you would like to do and present it to who ever would be the decisions maker.

I sound like you could help a lot of people that most people have written off. Making their life more bearable rather that focusing on healing them might be a good way to start. When our Spirits are tended to our bodies have a better chance of healing.

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Permalink Reply by Cole Ynda on December 31, 2009 at 12:00pm

Wow, will you please keep posting on how your services progress? I would imagine (picture and pretend) that you will have experiences that could fill a book, doing this type of work will such people. Even the comatose are still living human beings and how amazing to reach out to them like this.
I am really being drawn to work with people in hospice (and their families and loved ones), so I would love to share experiences as time goes by. Do you already have connections with hospice, critical care institutions?
How did you come to work with the critically ill? Are you already a health care provider?
Please keep in touch.
Warmly,
Cole

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Permalink Reply by Melanie Mamakos, C.Ht. on February 6, 2010 at 6:32pm

Cole,
what a lovely reply! You are such a sweet spirit... Hope all is well with you! Big hug!
Melanie


Cole Ynda said:

Wow, will you please keep posting on how your services progress? I would imagine (picture and pretend) that you will have experiences that could fill a book, doing this type of work will such people. Even the comatose are still living human beings and how amazing to reach out to them like this. I am really being drawn to work with people in hospice (and their families and loved ones), so I would love to share experiences as time goes by. Do you already have connections with hospice, critical care institutions? How did you come to work with the critically ill? Are you already a health care provider?
Please keep in touch.
Warmly,
Cole

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Permalink Reply by Shirley R. Patterson on February 6, 2010 at 7:45pm

Hi David,

I am currently working with a young woman in a coma. I agree with Kelley that we can be of great service to those who are bed ridden. The relaxation in itself is fantastic.

It sounds like your heart is in it, they will respond, even in a small way, to the love that is extended to them. Keep enriching the hearts and minds of your patients/friends. It's priceless!

Shirley

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Permalink Reply by Jane Bregazzi on February 7, 2010 at 3:16am

I really don't think that if you are truly empathetic that sitting and telling them stories to them which allows their subconscious to create images is a bad thing to do, certainly creating stories of which they can identify and then given hope at the end can in my opinion only do good.

You don't have to hypnotise them, induce them or anything. You don't have to take them back to relive trauma or anything dramatic. What's important here is their now and their future (however short). If you can give someone just a glimmer of quality of life in their now or their future then that is a great thing that you do.

Be you, be empathetic it is the greatest gift we all possess.

Jane

David Hill said:

The best would be to get hospital and medical aproval befor doing this, They have a hard time talking so understanding them totally is a concern, (love you Doreen) I don't want to just direct sugestion them so not sure how to go about it the way I work, They are so medicatied for many things and hooked up to many things not sure about messing with them, although when I'm on the clock there those are the things I take care of ??? Not sure just some of the reasons

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht said:

Hi David,

May I ask why are you nervous?

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Jonathan Chase on February 7, 2010 at 3:47am

Go for it.

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on February 8, 2010 at 3:18am

Hi David.

As the Nike advertising campaign said: Just do it.

Not sure what your issue is with vents and tracheys. If the patients are able to talk, they tend to be less 'critical' and more 'long term wean'. And as such, more likely to be able to use speaking valves, such as the passy-muir, to make communication much easier.

You'll already know how frustrating it is for some of these people, when others give up trying to understand what they're saying, or when the person themselves has said the same thing 5-10 times, and just can't be arsed to say it again, as it really wasn't that interesting in the first place!

If they are 'critical', they'll be monitored, and chilling someone down to a relative bradycardia can catch the concern of your colleagues, particularly in spinal patients (been there! ;-P ), but a sensible approach of working WITH the patient helps to allay others' issues with it (as does calling it 'relaxation' and also widening the alarm parameters!),

Get out there and do the good you want to do!

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