I`m very interested in hypnosis neurophysiological basis. Who has any information on that subject?

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Permalink Reply by Alex Prismotrov on June 19, 2009 at 8:40pm

in the last year i read many literature (mostly science journals) about mri + pet researches of my "question". There I found interesting facts about cortical locations of centers, which change their state when person is in trance. Also I read much about the eeg researches in that area. But i guess something definite will be found, when people can investigate the definite neuronal circuits of the brain. NACHIP and other similar projects are working in this direction

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Permalink Reply by Neil on June 20, 2009 at 9:47am

Susan and Alex,

Yes.

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on June 20, 2009 at 10:44am

I am all for anything that helps people better understand. Curiosity is what drives all research. If understanding the brain chemistry, synapse function, and neural pathways really helps you better tailor suggestions and approaches, then you go girl!! I could never get direction from that. LOL. As you have no doubt noticed, I am just happy to go for understanding the operational software end of it. But it if works for you, then by all means pursue it and let me know if I can help :)

The model concept is just because the physical proof is not available, only the results. There is little doubt in my mind of course, that my model is accurate, but calling it a model makes everyone else happy. LOL.

I don't think that being able to decipher computer machine language, will help very much in determining what the program is doing for the user. But that's just my opinion.

Cheers,
John

Susan French said:

Actually, John, I find that understanding the way the brain works helps me to tailor suggestions and approaches. Not only that but understanding the physiology helps me a lot in general.
For instance, the way John Owens explained how the conscious mind is a function of the left hemisphere and that as we go into hypnosis, the brain transfers function to the right brain and seeing his graph helped me a lot. If you recall, when you explained your three minds ideas, you kept reminding me that those ideas were just a model. Later I realized that I have more trouble understanding the model cancept than I do when I can see how the "machine" actually works (if that makes any sense).

Susan

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Permalink Reply by Melissa J. Roth on June 21, 2009 at 5:02pm

I can't believe all the people who are pooh-poohing your question! Read Candace Pert's "Molecules of Emotion" and Bruce Lipton's "The Biology of Belief." Rossi is good too but he's getting a little dated.

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Permalink Reply by Neil on June 22, 2009 at 1:09am

Brain stuff is dead cool.
An inquisitive mind leads to the fun of the quest.
I love fun and knowledge.

So, good for you and your journey.

My understanding is that brain chemistry and function is a result of the thoughts that go on in the mind.
If you are tranced out through visual imagery, then the visual cortex is going to be going through a lot of electrical activity.
It is the hypnotist's language that stimulated the response in this area.

There will by necessity need to be a correlation between other areas of the brain in order to process the instructions from hypnotist's words to the requested image or sensation etc..
Therefore, the hearing area, the language centre, visual cortex and ideo motor parts are going to be relating to each other.

There are going to be micro movements in response to all language; even if that response is relaxation.

What ever is said or done in conversation is always going to need a brain function to process it.
It might appear to some scientists that the function/process is the cause of trance.
Others may see the brain-wave patterns as simply a response.

When you calm a person using words, and then ask them go on a visual journey, there will be a specific brain anomaly for that.

If it wasn't exact and specific, then how would the mind/brain know the difference between one thought and an other?
Finding specific patterns in 'hypnotic' brain 'reactions, is only the observation of the pattern for that specific experience.
Interesting as it is, I support John in his approach: have fun, love the process, enjoy knowledge, and fix the client.


Love and respect Neil

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