In search of a lost ring

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Permalink Reply by Jackie Spencer on June 15, 2010 at 11:41pm

Hi Graham,

Great job with the bus plate! If you can keep your cool in such an intense situation, you can handle this ring thing.

I was just reading Transforming Therapy, in which Gil Boyne was helping someone find a lost item. When retracing her steps in trance did not work, he had her unconscious mind spell out one letter at a time a word that would have to do with the location of the missing item. She spelled "bathroom" and was then able to recall exactly where and why she had hidden it there. Within the hour she had gone home and found it.

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Permalink Reply by Graham Howes on June 15, 2010 at 11:58pm

Brilliant - I can't claim to have found the bus - some other Police used Hypnotist did that! I was using it as illustration of the power of hypnosis to help people recover memories at important times. Great tip - thanks!

Jackie Spencer said:

Hi Graham,
Great job with the bus plate! If you can keep your cool in such an intense situation, you can handle this ring thing.
I was just reading Transforming Therapy, in which Gil Boyne was helping someone find a lost item. When retracing her steps in trance did not work, he had her unconscious mind spell out one letter at a time a word that would have to do with the location of the missing item. She spelled "bathroom" and was then able to recall exactly where and why she had hidden it there. Within the hour she had gone home and found it.

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Permalink Reply by James Malone on June 16, 2010 at 2:17am

Graham, tell your client that it may take more than one session. Why? It paradoxically increases the chance of success on the first visit since the pressure has been removed "if this doesn't work I will never find it."

In addition to formal regression techniques use can also teach your client to use a pendulum. First set up yes/no signals. Then ask "is the ring in my home?" Then you can do a room by room search. "is it in the garage?" "is it in the bedroom?" etc. You can even have the client draw a simple map of the house and hold the pendulum over each room and note the response.

The main thing is to relieve the tension and subsequent conscious interference that is blocking recall. Good luck to both of you! Jim

James Malone
Author of the Pendulum Project

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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on June 16, 2010 at 6:02am

James is right on with the suggestion of using pendulum ideomotor. I worked with a client about 3 years ago, at her home. She wished to find her lost moonstone ring. As we sat at her kitchen table, the pendulum detective work revealed that the ring was in her room, on her dresser. She ran to her bedroom and returned, disappointed: no ring.

A couple of months ago, I received an email from her. She had just changed residences and while she was moving out furniture, she found the ring, lodged between the back of the dresser and the wall!

Remember a very important caveat with this work: the lost item's disposition is based on whether the client is aware of its last location. If someone else took or moved it, her mind will not have that knowledge.

Have fun and good luck!

Kelley

James Malone said:

Graham, tell your client that it may take more than one session. Why? It paradoxically increases the chance of success on the first visit since the pressure has been removed "if this doesn't work I will never find it."

In addition to formal regression techniques use can also teach your client to use a pendulum. First set up yes/no signals. Then ask "is the ring in my home?" Then you can do a room by room search. "is it in the garage?" "is it in the bedroom?" etc. You can even have the client draw a simple map of the house and hold the pendulum over each room and note the response.

The main thing is to relieve the tension and subsequent conscious interference that is blocking recall. Good luck to both of you! Jim

James Malone
Author of the Pendulum Project

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Permalink Reply by Graham Howes on June 16, 2010 at 6:33am

Thanks James and Kelley I'll give that a whril if the other techniques that I am going to try fail. If not maybe I'll have to put her family under... only joking! Always good to have several tricks up the sleeve I find - I so often find I am flying by the seat of my pants. A client recently who didn't want to be regressed nevertheless spontaneously regressed into something completely different that nevertheless turned out to be the least suspected reason (by him at least) for his needle phobia - namely a long forgottne cack handed doctor when he was very small who left him with a badly bruised and painful arm...

Wish me luck tonight!

Graham

Kelley Woods said:

James is right on with the suggestion of using pendulum ideomotor. I worked with a client about 3 years ago, at her home. She wished to find her lost moonstone ring. As we sat at her kitchen table, the pendulum detective work revealed that the ring was in her room, on her dresser. She ran to her bedroom and returned, disappointed: no ring.

A couple of months ago, I received an email from her. She had just changed residences and while she was moving out furniture, she found the ring, lodged between the back of the dresser and the wall!

Remember a very important caveat with this work: the lost item's disposition is based on whether the client is aware of its last location. If someone else took or moved it, her mind will not have that knowledge.

Have fun and good luck!

Kelley

James Malone said:

Graham, tell your client that it may take more than one session. Why? It paradoxically increases the chance of success on the first visit since the pressure has been removed "if this doesn't work I will never find it."

In addition to formal regression techniques use can also teach your client to use a pendulum. First set up yes/no signals. Then ask "is the ring in my home?" Then you can do a room by room search. "is it in the garage?" "is it in the bedroom?" etc. You can even have the client draw a simple map of the house and hold the pendulum over each room and note the response.

The main thing is to relieve the tension and subsequent conscious interference that is blocking recall. Good luck to both of you! Jim

James Malone
Author of the Pendulum Project

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Permalink Reply by Graham Howes on June 16, 2010 at 6:39am

Incidentally colleagues a colleague of mine has coincidentally sent me this graphic and I am sure he won't mind me posting this pendulum template!

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Permalink Reply by Licentious Maladay on June 16, 2010 at 7:16am

I recently helped someone find an important document. Like you, I tried to regress them and it didn't immediately work. However, the person reported back to me that the next day, she could feel her subconscious literally going from room to room until she had an urge to go to a particular shelf. There she found the document.

One addition that I made was to suggest that the document (or in this case the ring) would "glow". If it was in a drawer, the glow would show around the cracks in the drawer. I wanted to be sure that if the person happened to be in the right room (since she was sure it was somewhere in her home), her subconscious would flag the location of the document.

Lic

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Permalink Reply by Paul Dennehy (Paul Dee) on June 16, 2010 at 3:09pm

Hi Grham, Has the ring turnedup yet or is te client still looking? If this is still a live case i may have a simple solution that has worked for e several times.
Regards,
Paul

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Permalink Reply by Graham Howes on June 16, 2010 at 11:04pm

Ok she had a strong image of the table in the front room and the last memory she has is putting the ring on this table. Tghey have kittens so surmise it may have been batted by a kitten! They are going to search in all the chairs and around the area. If not I am open to suggestions - thanks!


Graham

Paul Dennehy (Paul Dee) said:

Hi Grham, Has the ring turnedup yet or is te client still looking? If this is still a live case i may have a simple solution that has worked for e several times.
Regards,
Paul

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Permalink Reply by Antonio on June 16, 2010 at 11:56pm

You know whats funny, I've got my homemade pendulum sitting right next to my laptop right now. As soon as I the title of this discussion I looked down at the pendulum and figured "hey, use some ideomotor stuff."

Kelley Woods said:

James is right on with the suggestion of using pendulum ideomotor. I worked with a client about 3 years ago, at her home. She wished to find her lost moonstone ring. As we sat at her kitchen table, the pendulum detective work revealed that the ring was in her room, on her dresser. She ran to her bedroom and returned, disappointed: no ring.

A couple of months ago, I received an email from her. She had just changed residences and while she was moving out furniture, she found the ring, lodged between the back of the dresser and the wall!

Remember a very important caveat with this work: the lost item's disposition is based on whether the client is aware of its last location. If someone else took or moved it, her mind will not have that knowledge.

Have fun and good luck!

Kelley

James Malone said:

Graham, tell your client that it may take more than one session. Why? It paradoxically increases the chance of success on the first visit since the pressure has been removed "if this doesn't work I will never find it."

In addition to formal regression techniques use can also teach your client to use a pendulum. First set up yes/no signals. Then ask "is the ring in my home?" Then you can do a room by room search. "is it in the garage?" "is it in the bedroom?" etc. You can even have the client draw a simple map of the house and hold the pendulum over each room and note the response.

The main thing is to relieve the tension and subsequent conscious interference that is blocking recall. Good luck to both of you! Jim

James Malone
Author of the Pendulum Project

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on June 17, 2010 at 10:14am

Graham,
You do have to consider the possibility that:
(a) Someone else moved the ring after they put it down
(b) It fell unnoticed out of a pocket or purse somewhere else. (common with lost keys)
(c) It was stolen. (being an antique of intrinsic value)

Good luck with it
John

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Permalink Reply by Cheryl Westley on June 17, 2010 at 10:34am

Kittens DO pick things up and carry them in their teeth sometimes... Being a cat lover, I've seen it time and time again. It wouldn't hurt to watch the cats, to see if they have a favorite hiding place for toys.

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