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Is HMI/Kappas style of hypnosis antiquated?
Most people that know me, know that I do not really care for HMI's style. I only took the free course, and did not like the 'hard sell' they were trying to push. A member on this site had told me that the Advanced Classes had a lot of old footage, and that it had not been updated at the time. One thing that I have never paid any attention to is the whole thing about emotional and physical's. I feel that doing this limits a persons approach. Lately I have been on a Bruce Lee kick (pun intended, along with a true to life Bruce Lee sceam), and I've been working on implementing some of his philosophies into my work. "absorb what is useful, reject what is useless and add what is specifcially your own" and "Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.". So I have taken this as being flexible enough to have my own style. After all, the person with the most choices usually wins. If one were to look at some of the worlds best hypnotists, I'm wondering if they bothered to find out if someone were emotional or physical (Erickson, Bandler, Tad James, Scott Sandland :), etc..etc..).
A few minutes ago I found something that was mentioning a class action lawsuit against HMI, local union 472, Kappas and Florence Henderson.
www.hmilawsuit.com/settlementnotice_OPEIU.html">http://web.archive.org/web/20040314082336/www.hmilawsuit.com/settlementnotice_OPEIU.html
"Plaintiffs Jeffrey Higley, Nelle Pingree and Deena Efferson ("Plaintiffs") filed this lawsuit on April 23, 1999, on behalf of themselves and a class of similarly situated students at defendant Hypnosis Motivation Institute ("HMI"). Defendants in the case have been HMI, Behavioral Science Centers ("BSC"), American Hypnosis Association ("AHA"), The Hypnotherapists Union, Local No. 472 ("Local 472"), OPEIU, George Kappas, John Kappas, and Florence Henderson. Plaintiffs allege that for several years Defendants have been misrepresenting to prospective students the career prospects for HMI's graduates, have been failing to disclose to prospective students the close personal relationship between Defendant Florence Henderson and the leadership of HMI, have been offering enrollment agreements that do not list all the expenses of attending HMI, and have been unfairly requiring students to join Defendants AHA, Local 472 and in turn OPEIU, in order to take a clinical course at HMI."
I never realized that Mrs. Henderson was married to Kappas.
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.". So I have taken this as being flexible enough to have my own style. After all, the person with the most choices usually wins. If one were to look at some of the worlds best hypnotists, I'm wondering if they bothered to find out if someone were emotional or physical (Erickson, Bandler, Tad James, Scott Sandland :), etc..etc..).
A few minutes ago I found something that was mentioning a class action lawsuit against HMI, local union 472, Kappas and Florence Henderson.
www.hmilawsuit.com/settlementnotice_OPEIU.html">http://web.archive.org/web/20040314082336/www.hmilawsuit.com/settlementnotice_OPEIU.html
"Plaintiffs Jeffrey Higley, Nelle Pingree and Deena Efferson ("Plaintiffs") filed this lawsuit on April 23, 1999, on behalf of themselves and a class of similarly situated students at defendant Hypnosis Motivation Institute ("HMI"). Defendants in the case have been HMI, Behavioral Science Centers ("BSC"), American Hypnosis Association ("AHA"), The Hypnotherapists Union, Local No. 472 ("Local 472"), OPEIU, George Kappas, John Kappas, and Florence Henderson. Plaintiffs allege that for several years Defendants have been misrepresenting to prospective students the career prospects for HMI's graduates, have been failing to disclose to prospective students the close personal relationship between Defendant Florence Henderson and the leadership of HMI, have been offering enrollment agreements that do not list all the expenses of attending HMI, and have been unfairly requiring students to join Defendants AHA, Local 472 and in turn OPEIU, in order to take a clinical course at HMI."
I never realized that Mrs. Henderson was married to Kappas.
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Permalink Reply by Antonio on -
Ah thats an interesting concept. I'm wondering, how do you know of this, or is this just an observation?
Conrad Cook said:Yeah, well the fact is that all those people who thought they were hypnotized with the emotional v. physical approach, weren't actually.
It was just the placebo effect.
C.
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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on -
Excuse me... but all I am going to say is WHATEVER... HMI Graduate... and Proud to be one... also love E&P.....
FYI: I am so against the idea of bashing another business or trainings, so unprofessional... just something for all of us to keep in mind...
Doreen Cohanim C.HT
www.EnterYourMind.com
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Permalink Reply by Pattie Freeman CH.t, MST on -
This is interesting I heard of mix reviews about HMI but I wasn't informed about what they actually do for the students. I get many emails offering classes at a reduce rate of $29 for different subjects...Boy I am surprised I couldn't open the links what happened with the lawsuit any results? Just curious!
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Permalink Reply by Antonio on
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I'm not bashing them, I'm only stating what I didn't like about the HMI style. If a person were to go to a horrible training I would expect them to let other people know. Since there is no true accreditation (with degree's) in the u.s. we all have to look out for one another.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
Voltaire via Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Doreen Cohanim C.Ht said:Excuse me... but all I am going to say is WHATEVER... HMI Graduate... and Proud to be one... also love E&P.....
FYI: I am so against the idea of bashing another business or trainings, so unprofessional... just something for all of us to keep in mind...
Doreen Cohanim C.HT
www.EnterYourMind.com
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Permalink Reply by Bonnie Robinson on -
I actually just went on there tonight and signed up for the free class, I figure it's another style then from what I learned, so I might learn something new.
Hope I haven't made a mistake.
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Permalink Reply by Antonio on
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Bonnie, I personally wouldn't pay much attention to the whole emotional and physical thing. I assume you were able to already hypnotize people without knowing if someone is either an "emotional" or "physical", am I right? The free class is basically their 'marketing' gimmick. Get ready for the 'hard sell'.
Bonnie Robinson said:I actually just went on there tonight and signed up for the free class, I figure it's another style then from what I learned, so I might learn something new.
Hope I haven't made a mistake.
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Permalink Reply by Pattie Freeman CH.t, MST on
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Bonnie,
You have nothing to lose if it's free and try out what they are offering and see what you think not anyone else thinks..take a chance and be open to learn maybe something new..even if it's just one thing..it's worth the time to see what they have to offer....
Bonnie Robinson said:I actually just went on there tonight and signed up for the free class, I figure it's another style then from what I learned, so I might learn something new.
Hope I haven't made a mistake.
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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on
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Antonio, By assuming that HMI offering a horrible training, just because you don't agree with what they teach us, does exactly what I just pointed out... FYI, HMI was founded in 1968 by Dr. John Kappas. Dr. Kappas Ph.D. literally defined the profession of hypnotherapy in 1973, when he wrote and defined the profession of a "Hypnotherapist" in the Federal Dictionary of Occupational Titles. That definition remains in force and unchanged today.
Just wondering, did you even read the E&P Book? Of course you don't have to agree, but what do you know about Relationship Strategies - that Dr. John G. Kappas, Ph.D, didn't know?
I am sorry, let me re frame it, what Degrees do you have, that you can explain relationship strategies better?
Dr. John Kappas' Relationship Strategies: The E & P Factor reveals simply and clearly how the subconscious mind dictates who we choose for partners in our relationships and why we repeat many of the same patterns over and over again.
By all mean, I do recommended the E&P to anyone, another tool added on anyone's knowledge...
http://www.hypnosis.edu/books/relationship-strategies.asp
All the best, Respectfully, Doreen Cohanim
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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on
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Congratulations Bonnie, HMI is not just about E&P, and the free training offered is only the first step from becoming a Hypnotherapist, no one ever learned in one month, with HMI Free training to be come a good hypnotherapist, but you can learn the first step, after that you can take more classes, at HMI or anywhere else, but even If you graduated from HMI, I will still recommend taking other training from other hypnotherapy schools, different schools offer different tools, and the more you knew, the better you find your own style.,
Just my personal opinion, Beside HMI, always will offer you case conformance and other training as party of your graduation... and case conformance are FREE to HMI graduates for the rest of your life... pretty good support, wouldn't you agree?
Just my two cents...
Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on
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Oops.. someone is copying something that is not even related to HMI... Isn't that magnificent :) Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.".
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Permalink Reply by Antonio on
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How is this not related to HMI? That quote by Bruce Lee is about flexibility, choices and freedoms. It is about not being stuck to anyone 'style'.
Doreen Cohanim C.Ht said:Oops.. someone is copying something that is not even related to HMI... Isn't that magnificent :) Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.".
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Permalink Reply by Alfredo Velasquez CHt. on -
Hi there. I'm graduate from HMI, and in this moment I think one of the best thing I did in my life was to take the free HMI "Foundations in Hypnotherapy", at first I thought: "It can't be so good for free", but it was, so, I decide to take the whole course. What I like from HMI is that is not the week-end training and you go home with a nice diploma to hang up; I don't know if there are more extenses courses, but this one took me one year to finished and I'm glad I did it this way, this people explain you every little detail about the bussiness, from hypnosis techniques to how to make your advertisement and it's not one of this places where you pay, finish your lessons and say bye bye, I finished some time ago and HMI still have a free tutor for me. About the E&P, when I found this concept I start understanding myself and other people around me so much better. I had explain this concept many times and people always like it, and I can say that at least one of my clients save his marriage thanks to the E&P sexuality.
This people give the opportunity to have a taste of hypnosis if you don't have to money or you are not sure is what you will like.
By the way HMI has a program where if you prove you have a terminal illness, you get free therapy, I like this philosophy of returning.
Thanks
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