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It seems to me that there is a great untapped resource here, but I have so far been unable to find any concrete examples; I know of a dog still pining for its companion, who died 6 months ago! The owner tells me that nothing she has tried so far seems to work. Any ideas?

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The puzzle is starting to gain a piece or two.
So one needs a beard to induct a cat in hypnosis.
You have moved from chickens to Cats. You’re making your way up the food chain.




James Hazlerig said:
I've no doubt that animals go into trance on a regular basis, much as humans do. When my cat starts kneading my beard and buries her face in it, she's pretty clearly undergone a spontaneous regression to infantile nursing behavior. And she is totally absorbed in that experience.

The problem is that not having an extensive vocabulary of meows, and not claiming to have a psychic ability to talk to animals, I'm pretty much at a loss when it comes to giving her effective suggestions.

James

John R. Brochu said:
Scott:

Animal communication seems to have some documentation with folks like Cesar Milan.
The jury is still out about hypnotizing animals..

Yours in Health,
John Brochu


Scott Cooper said:
Good Evening Marianne,

There was an advertisement in a Royal Oak, Michigan magazine that advertised a lady that claimed she could hypnotise animals,,

And on T.V. there was a lady that also claimed to be able to read their minds and cure their woes..

I wish I had an answer for you, perhaps you can google someone in Australia or New Zeland and get some help...

On a personal note, I was in New Zeland and it was an amazing country. It is the only country that you could drink the water out of a water fall.. Which, I believe is how this planet was designed..

Hoping you find a way to free this loyal dog, perhaps someone can adopt it,, I know the dog we adopted, he had a broken leg and was going to be put down,, is lying on my feet, keeping me warm now, on a beautiful night on Christmas Eve here in Clarkston, Michigan..

Merry Christmas to you Marianne,, and good luck with your search for help with the dog..

Scott Cooper
Clarkston Michigan
Well, I won't claim that I've induced trance in my cat, but I am pretty sure it happens spontaneously. :-)

Again, the problem really is one of effective communication. If you believe that you can telepathically communicate with an animal, then I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to offer suggestions. Personally, I don't believe that I communicate telepathically with animals, and I have to admit that the skeptic in me really doubts that anyone else does.

But, hey, I believe in reincarnation, which is at least as preposterous a notion as pet telepathy. And the whole country is shut down right now to celebrate a kid being born from a virgin, which is equally as ludicrous.

James
John R. Brochu said:
The puzzle is starting to gain a piece or two.
So one needs a beard to induct a cat in hypnosis.
You have moved from chickens to Cats. You’re making your way up the food chain.




James Hazlerig said:
I've no doubt that animals go into trance on a regular basis, much as humans do. When my cat starts kneading my beard and buries her face in it, she's pretty clearly undergone a spontaneous regression to infantile nursing behavior. And she is totally absorbed in that experience.

The problem is that not having an extensive vocabulary of meows, and not claiming to have a psychic ability to talk to animals, I'm pretty much at a loss when it comes to giving her effective suggestions.

James

John R. Brochu said:
Scott:

Animal communication seems to have some documentation with folks like Cesar Milan.
The jury is still out about hypnotizing animals..

Yours in Health,
John Brochu


Scott Cooper said:
Good Evening Marianne,

There was an advertisement in a Royal Oak, Michigan magazine that advertised a lady that claimed she could hypnotise animals,,

And on T.V. there was a lady that also claimed to be able to read their minds and cure their woes..

I wish I had an answer for you, perhaps you can google someone in Australia or New Zeland and get some help...

On a personal note, I was in New Zeland and it was an amazing country. It is the only country that you could drink the water out of a water fall.. Which, I believe is how this planet was designed..

Hoping you find a way to free this loyal dog, perhaps someone can adopt it,, I know the dog we adopted, he had a broken leg and was going to be put down,, is lying on my feet, keeping me warm now, on a beautiful night on Christmas Eve here in Clarkston, Michigan..

Merry Christmas to you Marianne,, and good luck with your search for help with the dog..

Scott Cooper
Clarkston Michigan
I have noticed an interesting behavior -I dont know if anyone has noticed this - but if we gently fold a cats front paws under, in a position of natural relaxation - they calm way down
Hmm. Is this with the cat on its back or on its belly?

I have noticed that I can sometimes get my cat to calm down by rolling her off her back onto her belly. Since cats fight upside down, I figured that rolling her that way might help. It does help sometimes.

R Coyote said:
I have noticed an interesting behavior -I dont know if anyone has noticed this - but if we gently fold a cats front paws under, in a position of natural relaxation - they calm way down
Watch cats carefully ... (my cat commands you so)

Whilst they are in an attentive - but relaxed state, a "sitting down on all fours" sphinx position - they may keep two, one, or no paws extended .


Notice when they enfold both paws inward - and they may do this suddenly and even accompany this with a "sigh" of sorts - they are in a state of safety and calm - one paw is a maybe.. both paws is a full anticipatory pose.

I found that if I enfold its' front paw - emulating a full safety pose. They reciprocally follow, or agree.

It's more effective if you simultaneously offer an eye-squinting gaze in return.

However, if she offers a slight tail-flick, especially a floor thump, you just lost rapport =]

To calm her down by rolling her off her back onto her belly, you are asking her to expose her vulnerability.
Cats, being natural born killers "know..." that soft bellys are vulnerable to evisceration.

Dogs do this by offering thier neck.
These guys are the sons of the late Dr. Naughty from Las Vegas. They did this as a publicity stunt several months ago,
Hope you enjoy it,

Hugh Cole
The Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet
You misunderstand. I'm rolling the cat so that the belly is down, not exposed.

R Coyote said:
Watch cats carefully ... (my cat commands you so)

Whilst they are in an attentive - but relaxed state, a "sitting down on all fours" sphinx position - they may keep two, one, or no paws extended .


Notice when they enfold both paws inward - and they may do this suddenly and even accompany this with a "sigh" of sorts - they are in a state of safety and calm - one paw is a maybe.. both paws is a full anticipatory pose.

I found that if I enfold its' front paw - emulating a full safety pose. They reciprocally follow, or agree.

It's more effective if you simultaneously offer an eye-squinting gaze in return.

However, if she offers a slight tail-flick, especially a floor thump, you just lost rapport =]

To calm her down by rolling her off her back onto her belly, you are asking her to expose her vulnerability.
Cats, being natural born killers "know..." that soft bellys are vulnerable to evisceration.

Dogs do this by offering thier neck.
It's surprising to me that the farmer hadn't heard of it. I live in a fairly rural area, and chicken hypnosis is so much a part of the common knowledge that people aren't even puzzled when I mention it. I considered doing a publicity stunt hypnotizing chickens at the local farmers market, until I realized that no one in this area would be impressed.

James


Hugh Cole said:
These guys are the sons of the late Dr. Naughty from Las Vegas. They did this as a publicity stunt several months ago,
Hope you enjoy it,

Hugh Cole
The Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet
Thanks Hugh :)

It was funny to see them running after them lol...

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
I can tell you from experience that they are surprisingly hard to catch. :-)

After many frustrating attempts to herd the chickens back into their pen at the end of every day, I finally learned that if I just wait for dusk, they all go back in of their own accord.

James

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht said:
Thanks Hugh :)

It was funny to see them running after them lol...

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
I have a dear friend who has a specialty act in which she performs "animal hypnosis" with a wide range of animals . . . she has a veritable menagerie with which she works with. Different animals appear to be entranced through a wide variety of techniques (Ormond McGill's yellow book and his big blue book both have techniques that oldtime stage hypnotists would use for this). However, it's not "real" hypnosis, it's a stage gimmick based upon particular animal responses that appear to be hypnotic.

Animals can be guided into a sort of trancelike state - tonic catalepsy or the like - but the difference between this and hypnosis is lack of utility. With hypnosis you can guide a person changes in behavior through suggestion. Animals such as dogs do not respond merely to verbal suggestion, they have to be guided into behavior changes through reinforcement of behaviors - positive or negative - with the verbal commands "suggestions" fired at the same time, in essence creating triggers or anchors. If you use one of the MANY methods for creating a trancestate within an animal and then only give it verbal suggestions, the animal can't process the complex language into metaphor experience for the mind to understand.

You might be much better off at comforting the animal, playing with it, introducing new environments to pique its curiosity and using positive reinforcement. Run, don't walk, to the nearest physical or online bookstore and get yourself a copy of DON'T SHOOT THE DOG by Karen Pryor. She's one of the top folks on use of positive reinforcement for animal training . . . actually, the book was originally recommended to me by a friend in terms of the application of much of the concepts to human conditioning as well.

Don't think of it as merely conditioning or that this is somehow less valuable than hypnosis . . . what we do in hypnosis is oftentimes training new responses through positive or negative (certainly, that's what confidence anchors or stop smoking suggestions and the like are often about), it's just that we have a powerful shortcut . . . animals that don't share our language complexity are simply conditioned a different way . . . of course, positive and negative reinforcement are used on humans all the time, whether or not we are aware of it.

I assume that the real kernel of your question is not "can this animal be helped with hypnosis" but "what is an effective way to help this animal?" . . . read the book I recommended and do comfort, exercise, and play work with the animal. Enhance it's variety of experience and quality of life and it will spend less time moping about.

All the best,
Brian
http://www.briandavidphillips.com

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