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It's Impossible For A Normal Human To Not Experience Trance
Every single human being of average or better intelligence is not only fully capable of experiencing trance, it's impossible for them to avoid it.
To get hung up on whether hypnosis is real or not or whether I can hypnotize my client or not is a huge waste of session time. And when you allow a client to frame their subjective experience as "not hypnosis" you are doing your client and hypnosis a great disservice. In other words, whatever they experience while with me is their hypnotic experience for that day and time. And it does change over time, usually getting better.
What happens when you allow your client to decide whether they've been hypnotized or not is that you are allowing your client to control the session, which is like having two hypnotists working in opposition to each other. "There can only be one hypnotist in the room and if you're getting paid, it might as well be you" (paraphrased from my friend and favorite trainer).
People who say they weren't hypnotized have hijacked the session. These characteristics are most prevalent in certain types of people. They need to be taught that whatever they experience with you during the ritual of hypnosis is their hypnotic experience. In other words, they need to accept their experience period. Some people have difficulty with this, more than others.
Some people think that hypnosis has to be according to what they believe others have experienced it. But how in the world could they possibly know that? They weren't experiencing someone else's experience were they? These type of clients need to schedule more sessions, which will cost them more money. Their inability to recognize or accept their own trance state is not due to the inadequacies of the hypnotist if they have framed the session correctly, but due to the clients' own poor training.
We could spend the whole session or multiple sessions finding a convincer or test that they succeed at, if we buy into their desire to have us prove to them they are hypnotized. Then it's more than likely they will just end up negating their experience.
So get the best training that you can as a hypnotist so that you are convinced that you can indeed hypnotize people. Then stop having any type of dialogue with anyone over whether they are capable, have been or were hypnotized. And help people bring about the changes they want.
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Permalink Reply by docregal.com on -
Perhaps by design in this ordinary world we collectively sojourn life in a consensual trance, i.e. in a prefabricated state of confusion and purposeful ambiguity. And although our interpretations are ofttimes unique and different, possibly at some point, a newborn universal clarity will be available to us. Ultimately then we can hope to pierce our mystical veil of separation, unify our consciousness and eventually share one vision, i.e. lucidly dreaming together.
Michael Ellner said:
...our "shared" and "individual" trances are interpretive by their very nature - Is that not what is meant by "Life is but a "dream"
Are we not experiencing the collective and individual trances that are operating and at work or play in any given moment? I believe that is what Kelley and Marc were sharing when discussing de-hypnotizing their clients...
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Permalink Reply by Barry Neale on -
Wow AJ I haven't read so many nominalisations in one paragraph since I read "Patterns 1". You should become a hypnotist!
Lol
barry
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Permalink Reply by Marc Carlin on -
Hi Bill,
I agree totally. Thanks for adding that.
Now, titles are meant to attract attention, not to give the whole story.
Thanks for being attracted, I love having your well thought out input. ;-)
Bill Kennedy said:There are some really good points in this thread. I would just rephrase the title to remove the words "impossible" and "normal." It is pointless to talk in absolutes (i.e. "impossible") when talking about people. Our instrument is language and it just doesn't have the precision required to talk in absolutes. Doing so just challenges others to find exceptions rather than listening to the message. Similarly, the word "normal" is so imprecise as to be effectively meaningless.
For me, the wording, "Most people experience trance," conveys the message in a clear, positive and unchallenging way.
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