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Languague patterns and confusion words(+ how to talk like a good hypnotherapist)
Hello All!
Today Im seeking information about language patterns and confusion words.
What are the best ones? How can I use them? Is it possible to use them as a induction? And. How to control your voice (whilst using the patterns) to relax someone??
Thank you all
Maciej
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Permalink Reply by Jan Krüger on -
Okay, since nobody else seems to want to comment on this, I'll bite.
There is no specific set of "the best language patterns". Two things are important in them. Number one: they need to come across as natural. If they sound at all stilted, under normal circumstances they will only make things worse.
Pick a couple of patterns (if you need inspiration, try Antonio's excellent practice page for language patterns: http://kauaihypnosis.site90.com/?page_id=12) and use them. Practice talking to yourself using the patterns, and see if you can sprinkle some into normal conversations. Don't overdo it and remember to keep it casual! You don't even need to use them for anything in particular. Don't set yourself any high goals. Just use them.
After a couple of days, once the patterns come to you naturally, switch to a different set. Keep doing that. You'll be a journeyman of patterns within weeks.
As for confusing language, I would hold off on that for now. Using patterns in a natural (yet emphatic) way not only gives you tremendous hypnotic power already, but it also gives you a very good starting point for using confusion.
As for what to use patterns for... well, there are tons of material about that on the interwebs. I'll be happy to answer any specific questions that you come up with while looking into those.
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Permalink Reply by Maciej Kaliski on -
Thank you so much. Ive been wating for an answer for quite a few days! I will have a look into that later on through out the day. Once again thank you
Jan Krüger said:Okay, since nobody else seems to want to comment on this, I'll bite.
There is no specific set of "the best language patterns". Two things are important in them. Number one: they need to come across as natural. If they sound at all stilted, under normal circumstances they will only make things worse.
Pick a couple of patterns (if you need inspiration, try Antonio's excellent practice page for language patterns: http://kauaihypnosis.site90.com/?page_id=12) and use them. Practice talking to yourself using the patterns, and see if you can sprinkle some into normal conversations. Don't overdo it and remember to keep it casual! You don't even need to use them for anything in particular. Don't set yourself any high goals. Just use them.
After a couple of days, once the patterns come to you naturally, switch to a different set. Keep doing that. You'll be a journeyman of patterns within weeks.
As for confusing language, I would hold off on that for now. Using patterns in a natural (yet emphatic) way not only gives you tremendous hypnotic power already, but it also gives you a very good starting point for using confusion.
As for what to use patterns for... well, there are tons of material about that on the interwebs. I'll be happy to answer any specific questions that you come up with while looking into those.
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Permalink Reply by Graham Old on -
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Permalink Reply by Kathleen Hanover on
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Here are my favorite "confusion words"...
trigonometry
antidisestablishmentarianism
onomatapoeia
(But of course, I'm not a hypnotherapist. These are just words I find confusing.)
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Permalink Reply by Antoine Pruyssers on -
one of the funniest ones I heard was:
...and the only thing left to do will turn out to be the right thing to do, as you go around and around in your head, this turn of event will get you up and running, down a certain path in life.
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Permalink Reply by Anthony Edgington Sr on -
"Time Distortion", "confusion words", and "How to talk like a good Hynpnotist". These are the three questions you have asked to date? Starting with the last one first, to talk like one you become one, otherwise you are a fraud. "Confusion words" no professional would dream of confusing a client, but I believe what you mean is "Confusions Techniques", and these are rarely used by the skilled professional, and when used need no words at all for many of them. To learn you study under a skilled professional and practise until you are perfect.. Finally, "Time Distortion", no need for producing this at all, it occurs naturally when required for therapy, so you see I am left with the distinct impression that you are not only not skilled, but attempting to learn online, which is a no no to me since without proper training as a basis, you will never be good enough to consider yourself a professional and indeed will be in the position of being charged with fraud by an unhappy client, and sent to jail in most countries....If I seem harsh, it is because all too often we get a black eye because of those who think Hypnosis is the easy way to a fast buck, and they defraud the public in the process.... If you want to be good, take proper hands on training, and if it is not worth your time or cost, don't claim to be one of us for you truly are not.
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Permalink Reply by Antoine Pruyssers on
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Anthony, I see a lot of pre-assumptions, and negative talk in your comment.
Furthermore, you assume that there is a best/better way to learn hypnosis, yet it is clear that that kind of thinking does not compute with the guidelines of our profession.
What makes a qualified hypnotist?
I'd say understanding the field and the heart to practice.
Whatever works for you, might not work for someone else, and vice versa.
Do you really want to play the Harvard-degree-game?
Remember, you were once the student, asking the stupid questions.
Have the courtesy to help, or at least give some feedback with a constructive basis!
Anthony Edgington Sr said:"Time Distortion", "confusion words", and "How to talk like a good Hynpnotist". These are the three questions you have asked to date? Starting with the last one first, to talk like one you become one, otherwise you are a fraud. "Confusion words" no professional would dream of confusing a client, but I believe what you mean is "Confusions Techniques", and these are rarely used by the skilled professional, and when used need no words at all for many of them. To learn you study under a skilled professional and practise until you are perfect.. Finally, "Time Distortion", no need for producing this at all, it occurs naturally when required for therapy, so you see I am left with the distinct impression that you are not only not skilled, but attempting to learn online, which is a no no to me since without proper training as a basis, you will never be good enough to consider yourself a professional and indeed will be in the position of being charged with fraud by an unhappy client, and sent to jail in most countries....If I seem harsh, it is because all too often we get a black eye because of those who think Hypnosis is the easy way to a fast buck, and they defraud the public in the process.... If you want to be good, take proper hands on training, and if it is not worth your time or cost, don't claim to be one of us for you truly are not.
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Permalink Reply by Jan Krüger on
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Anthony Edgington Sr said:[...] I believe what you mean is "Confusions Techniques", and these are rarely used by the skilled professional, and when used need no words at all for many of them. [...] Finally, "Time Distortion", no need for producing this at all, it occurs naturally when required for therapy [...]
I would happily use confusing language in therapy if I thought it would help, and I do happen to think that confusion can be an extremely effective tool.
That said, I don't think Maciej is in the game for doing professional therapy. Even if he was, "occurs naturally" is a weasel phrase. You could argue that everything that happens in hypnosis does so naturally... and apart from that, what if a client comes in because he gets frustrated about waiting times? I mean, sure, you can just remove the frustration, but personally I would consider it much more of a success to help the person perceive waiting times as very short whenever he so desires. There's nothing that says that this will happen automatically.
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Permalink Reply by Anthony Edgington Sr on
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Unless I am mistaken, he mentions charging and clients. That does mean he is in the game (or a troll) If this is not so, he should not be claiming to be a "Fellow Hypnotist", so perhaps you could reread his post and confirm what I say or correct me if I am wrong. I do make mistakes on occasion....As for "weasel comments", please understand you are not my client, and I speak as I see the facts,but never as a weasel,. while you have the right to accept what I say in good faith, or reject it out of hand, and the only person to decide that is you,( the only person to either benefit or suffer from that decision,) To say you would use confusion language if you thought it beneficial to your client means nothing, since you offer no occasion where such might indeed be beneficial, and in all of my years of practice, I can think of no occasion where such would be of help. What suggestion would you see as being offered in such a way as to help a client? You see, I am still open to learning, and my last training contact was about fourty years ago, two years into my practice, so perhaps you can teach me something that has been improved on over the years?
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Permalink Reply by Anthony Edgington Sr on
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Antoine Pruyssers said:Anthony, I see a lot of pre-assumptions, and negative talk in your comment.
Furthermore, you assume that there is a best/better way to learn hypnosis, yet it is clear that that kind of thinking does not compute with the guidelines of our profession.
What makes a qualified hypnotist?
I'd say understanding the field and the heart to practice.
Whatever works for you, might not work for someone else, and vice versa.
Do you really want to play the Harvard-degree-game?
Remember, you were once the student, asking the stupid questions.
Have the courtesy to help, or at least give some feedback with a constructive basis!
Anthony Edgington Sr said:"Time Distortion", "confusion words", and "How to talk like a good Hynpnotist". These are the three questions you have asked to date? Starting with the last one first, to talk like one you become one, otherwise you are a fraud. "Confusion words" no professional would dream of confusing a client, but I believe what you mean is "Confusions Techniques", and these are rarely used by the skilled professional, and when used need no words at all for many of them. To learn you study under a skilled professional and practise until you are perfect.. Finally, "Time Distortion", no need for producing this at all, it occurs naturally when required for therapy, so you see I am left with the distinct impression that you are not only not skilled, but attempting to learn online, which is a no no to me since without proper training as a basis, you will never be good enough to consider yourself a professional and indeed will be in the position of being charged with fraud by an unhappy client, and sent to jail in most countries....If I seem harsh, it is because all too often we get a black eye because of those who think Hypnosis is the easy way to a fast buck, and they defraud the public in the process.... If you want to be good, take proper hands on training, and if it is not worth your time or cost, don't claim to be one of us for you truly are not.
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Permalink Reply by Pete & Lorraine on -
Hi Anthony
You are mistaken, he does not mention charging and as he is only 13 I doubt he could charge or get onto a training course, I think it's great that he takes an interest in learning these skills at his age think how good will he be when working as a qualified therapist when he is an adult!
Pete
Anthony Edgington Sr said:Unless I am mistaken, he mentions charging and clients. That does mean he is in the game (or a troll) If this is not so, he should not be claiming to be a "Fellow Hypnotist", so perhaps you could reread his post and confirm what I say or correct me if I am wrong. I do make mistakes on occasion....As for "weasel comments", please understand you are not my client, and I speak as I see the facts,but never as a weasel,. while you have the right to accept what I say in good faith, or reject it out of hand, and the only person to decide that is you,( the only person to either benefit or suffer from that decision,) To say you would use confusion language if you thought it beneficial to your client means nothing, since you offer no occasion where such might indeed be beneficial, and in all of my years of practice, I can think of no occasion where such would be of help. What suggestion would you see as being offered in such a way as to help a client? You see, I am still open to learning, and my last training contact was about fourty years ago, two years into my practice, so perhaps you can teach me something that has been improved on over the years?
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Permalink Reply by Antoine Pruyssers on
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The question for time-distortion, to awnser your questionable list of topics,
was started by me, and not by Maciej.
And indeed I do practice and charge clients, but that isn't the issue here.
What is the issue here, is how do confusion techniques work, and unlike some teachers, I know that Igor Ledochowski uses terms, like confusion-words, power-words, whose words might be what brought up this question
Maciej, has a rellevant question and found the best forum, to ask it.
There is no need, to bash him, because you do not want to share that info, or question Maciej's talents, or truthfullness.
Unless you have a valid reason to make the patronising remaks you made, and can give some REAL evidence, instead of just piling up some unrelated subjects.
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