low sex drive

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I've got a client who had Hep C for 10 years and he had low sex drive and now that he has gone through Hep C treatment he has no sex drive. Does anyone have any scripts they can share which would help this client to get his drive back. According to him before he had Hep C he was a very sexual active person.

This is a make or break point with his wife, who has been with him before he had Hep C and confirms what he has said previous to him getting Hep C. He has completed his round of treatment consisting of 72 weeks, it has been one month since he has completed this treatment, but has not gotten his libido back as of yet.

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Permalink Reply by Barry Neale on January 3, 2012 at 2:19pm

Hi Jagi,

If I was in your situation I would want to know how he contracted Hep C. If was sexually transmitted he may have a lot of guilt about it.

Alternatively he may have fears about passing it on to his wife.

One of the other things i would want to know is does he have morning erections?

One of the best books on sexual problems using NLP is Solutions by Leslie Cameron Bandler so that would be a good place to start.

But lets say it's just the effect of the treatment.

I would begin by telling metaphors about people who have overcome the effects of drugs with their beliefs. for example people given amphetamines but told they were sleeping pills and within minutes they were falling asleep etc. Start to build belief and expectancy that there body know how to overcome the effects of any drugs/treatment.

In this case using hypnosis have him go back to times in the past when he felt really turned (preferably with his wife). Have him step into this event and see what he saw, feel what he felt and hear what he heard. Using your tonality have him making the pictures bigger and brighter, the feelings more intense etc. Ask him if this feeling were a color what color would it be? Then have him imagine filling up his body with color and as he does so have him notice how that increases the feeling. Then have him touch his thumb and forefinger together to create a trigger and suggest that everytime he squeezes these feeling will come back stronger. have him do this a number of times.

Then have him imagine using this in the future and future pace him being able to (use his words) get turned on and have a fullfilling sexual experience. Repeat this several times

Other metaphors can be things like "a watched pot never boils"

I hope this helps

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Permalink Reply by Amy Marsh on January 3, 2012 at 3:12pm

Hi Jagi,

Your client sounds pretty depleted, physically, and with the Hep C and treatment - no wonder!

It might be good to know more about his medical condition. Is he on other meds too - like for cholesterol or low blood pressure, or anti-depressants? Some of these can affect desire levels (and erections). Has he had his free testosterone levels checked recently - and at a couple different times of day (this pertains to Barry's question about morning erections)? Does he have diabetes or has he been told he is pre-diabetic? What is he doing with regard to nutrition to rebuild his health?

If you are going to have him imagine being really turned on, as a sexologist I want to tell you it is really important to not limit his visualization to a scenario that makes you, the hypnotist, most comfortable - such as wanting him to only visualize lovemaking with his wife. His core erotic theme and favorite turn-ons may be quite different than what happens in his relationship, and you want him to access his most authentic Eros for the hypnotic session to work.

In addition, have him visualize and feel excellent blood circulation and flow to the genitals and pelvis. For "homework" you can also have him do some rocking exercises while squeezing his perineum (root chakra) in time with his breath (unless there is some medical contraindication) which can also serve to revitalize his sexual drive.

Hope this helps.

Amy

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on January 3, 2012 at 6:34pm

Whats his testosterone level?

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Permalink Reply by Jagi Egnell on January 3, 2012 at 9:12pm

Thank you for sharing this great information. He is on celexa which he is slowly being weaned off of. He has guilt and shame of getting the disease. Even though it wasn't his fault, it was through a blood transfusion, because of the connotation of Hep C being a dirty disease, he feels the guilt and shame very deeply. He is going for his testosterone test next week.

I will work on scripts and visualizations as suggested. Once again thank you.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on January 5, 2012 at 9:06am

Hi Jagi,

I have assisted about 25-30 clients who acquired their HIV and/or Hep C infections via transfusions or blood products in the mid-1980s. The intense guilt and shame of being linked to IV-drug users, gay men and people with Hep B was a bigger concern for them than their infection(s).

Some of these clients were on anti-viral s and/or anti-depressants and others were not on any drugs. All of these clients reported feeling "DiRTY" and as if they had become unworthy or damaged "goods. Most of these male and female clients reported low or no sex drive.

Comments:

This guy sounds like he is in a good situation - His wife is interested in sex! Most of my clients had partners who viewed them with fear and in some cases damaged goods. In these cases their low sex drive protected them against the pain of being REJECTED by their loved one.

In the U.S. latex condoms are only recommended to people with HCV who are having sex with multiple partners. Monogamous couples are told that they do not have to practice safe sex because the risk for sexual transmission of HCV is low. Thinking is that if the negative partner hasn't become infected after repeated exposures - A) the positive partner is not infectious or B) the negative partner has developed an immunity...

Hints: If a client is weaning himself from a drug that is known to lower sex drive like celexa - I would consider suggesting that he will "start to" regain his sex drive as he is weaned from the celexa. (Open ended suggestion)

Getting in touch with and releasing his toxic feelings and emotions can only help - especially if you suggest that it will help...

I find having my clients get in touch with what turns them on sexually is more effective if they do it in the privacy of their minds. "Please get in touch with something that turns you on in the privacy of your mind and nod your head when you do..."

Best,

Michael E.

PS- I have never met any one who made it through conventional HCV treatments... Most of the people I met stopped the treatments within a few weeks due to the adverse effects... This guy must have exceptional coping resources.

PPS- My views on Hep C may be of interest

RocheAttack -

http://www.hypnothoughts.com/photo/716892:Photo:88743?commentId=716...

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Permalink Reply by Amy Marsh on January 5, 2012 at 1:13pm

I like Michael's point about getting turned on in the privacy of their minds. Because I am a sexologist, people share quite a lot with me - but this approach probably will work well for any hypnotherapist who is not a specialist in sexuality topics.

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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on January 6, 2012 at 9:45pm

Hi Jagi,

In addition to the excellent advice offered by Michael and Amy, you may want to consider EFT. Here is an interesting study regarding using EFT for libido: http://www.eftuniverse.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=ar...

:) Kelley

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Permalink Reply by Susan French on January 8, 2012 at 1:56pm

Has he been tested for testosterone and other hormonal levels? Also, isn't libido one of the first responses to be impacted by trauma or stress. Isn't illness always a stressor?

Even though most of us can't prescribe either tests or medications, isn't it always wise to rule out physical causation before we tear into emotional causation?

If it were me, I'd refer out for testing and evaluation first.