Nhs Provider Number

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on February 10, 2010 at 12:10am

IMHO, not worth the money to access the 'NHS directory' http://www.nhsdirectory.org/
Which acts in similar ways to all the registers I've come across (other than the one where you have to be a dr to be a member). They take your fee; list you, and that's about it.

Unless they know you, clinicians are unlikely to refer specifially to you, or recommend you. If they don't know you, or know much about hypnotherapy (etc), they are unlikely to go out of their way to find out about HT etc.

And indeed, there is no guarantee being on the register will get you work... It may even harm your rep with private clients, who don't want their HT to be 'part of the machine'. Anything's possible.

So if I'm totally off at a tangent, talking about stuff unrelated to your question, forgive me! I think your pennies are better spent elsewhere (and if you can put up with your details being sold to companies, there's plenty of websites who'll host your details for free, which does get you clients).

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Permalink Reply by Neil on February 10, 2010 at 2:26am

I appreciate your advice, thank you.

Henxy said:

IMHO, not worth the money to access the 'NHS directory' http://www.nhsdirectory.org/
Which acts in similar ways to all the registers I've come across (other than the one where you have to be a dr to be a member). They take your fee; list you, and that's about it.

Unless they know you, clinicians are unlikely to refer specifially to you, or recommend you. If they don't know you, or know much about hypnotherapy (etc), they are unlikely to go out of their way to find out about HT etc.

And indeed, there is no guarantee being on the register will get you work... It may even harm your rep with private clients, who don't want their HT to be 'part of the machine'. Anything's possible.

So if I'm totally off at a tangent, talking about stuff unrelated to your question, forgive me! I think your pennies are better spent elsewhere (and if you can put up with your details being sold to companies, there's plenty of websites who'll host your details for free, which does get you clients).

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Permalink Reply by Neil on February 10, 2010 at 2:29am

Thank you. It was the answer I was dreading but one that I felt was probably the case. Thanks for clarifying it anyway.

Adrian Tannock said:

Hi there,

There was a time when you just sent off a quick form to NHS (Organisation Data Services in Exeter) and they just gave you an "independent provider number". Sadly, those days are over (I say sadly, because that was always a job on my 'to-do' list)...

Now, you have to have a doctor agree to refer a client to you; you then have to ask said doctor's permission to write to their local PCT, requesting that they contact the ODS in order to have a code allocated to you.

(Apologies if that makes no sense. It made no sense to me either!)

Cheers,

Adrian

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on February 10, 2010 at 2:52am

Why were you dreading that answer?
What do you want to do with the NHS?

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Permalink Reply by Graham Old on February 10, 2010 at 5:07am

Adrian,

Does that mean that a hypnotherapist would have to go through that with every client they had referred from a GP? Or, is it a case that once you have a code allocated to you, it's permanent?

I'm asking because I'm surprised that there's no system whereby a GP could refer a client to us for free, as we or they could claim the money back from the NHS (or whoever).

I guess I understand the reasons for or against, but I'm a big fan of straightforward and easy! ;-)


Adrian Tannock said:

Hi there,

There was a time when you just sent off a quick form to NHS (Organisation Data Services in Exeter) and they just gave you an "independent provider number". Sadly, those days are over (I say sadly, because that was always a job on my 'to-do' list)...

Now, you have to have a doctor agree to refer a client to you; you then have to ask said doctor's permission to write to their local PCT, requesting that they contact the ODS in order to have a code allocated to you.

(Apologies if that makes no sense. It made no sense to me either!)

Cheers,

Adrian

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Permalink Reply by Karena on February 10, 2010 at 5:51am

Permalink Reply by Graham Old 42 minutes ago
Adrian,

Does that mean that a hypnotherapist would have to go through that with every client they had referred from a GP? Or, is it a case that once you have a code allocated to you, it's permanent?

I'm asking because I'm surprised that there's no system whereby a GP could refer a client to us for free, as we or they could claim the money back from the NHS (or whoever).

I guess I understand the reasons for or against, but I'm a big fan of straightforward and easy! ;-)







Oh that life was so easy LOL

Karena.

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Permalink Reply by Neil on February 10, 2010 at 9:29am

I want to be able to offer a wider range of people the treatment they may want/need without them having to feel like they couldn't afford it, while at the same time making enough money for myself to live on.
It would just have been a nice option.

Henxy said:

Why were you dreading that answer?
What do you want to do with the NHS?

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on February 10, 2010 at 9:51am

That's not the only way to do what you aim to do...

Psycho T said:

I want to be able to offer a wider range of people the treatment they may want/need without them having to feel like they couldn't afford it, while at the same time making enough money for myself to live on.
It would just have been a nice option.

Henxy said:

Why were you dreading that answer?
What do you want to do with the NHS?

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