Online Education VS In Person Education - Whats the best?

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on December 6, 2011 at 3:49am

Hello Ian -

Welcome to the discussion -

I am pro practice and I highly recommend supervised practice when and where possible... 

@ newly certified hypnos and students

A) The best practice is working with real people- 

B) 100 practice sessions does not equal 1 real session with a paying client 

C) Many people have developed bad habits because they practiced doing something incorrectly

Michael E.

Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect.

~ Vince Lombardi

 

Ian Last said:

I've also done both types of training and both are good.  The important thing though is PRACTICE.  Rope in everyone you can, even the friends and family who don't want to be hypnotised, that way you can use a "pretend as if" frame and get good at hypnotising resistant people as well as willing ones.

It doesn't matter if you want to be good at kicking a ball, playing a musical instrument or being the best hypnotherapist in town, the secret to getting good at anything is practice.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on December 6, 2011 at 3:50am

Hi,

I have studied and taught in both formats and both can be excellent ways learning and teaching depending on instructors,  programs and technology.

I like Webex and I really like teaching with Nongard

Ellner

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Permalink Reply by Ian Last on December 6, 2011 at 12:35pm

Hello Michael,

Thank you for clarifying 3 very important points about the comment of practicing.  I completley agree with B & C, but I personally think that practicing with everyone and anyone gives us the confidence to do A.

Please feel free to disagree if you wish, because if we all thought the same no-one would ever learn anything.

A) The best practice is working with real people- 

B) 100 practice sessions does not equal 1 real session with a paying client 

C) Many people have developed bad habits because they practiced doing something incorrectly

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Permalink Reply by Michael Long on December 6, 2011 at 3:36pm

I've done coursework online, and am now preparing to go through all of it again in-person.

I think it really boils down to:

a) The career field you are coming to Hypnotherapy from

b) Knowing your personality traits, good and bad

If you are coming from other counseling/therapeutic fields, I would argue that online coursework might suit you just fine, because you have a provider/client background that can "fill in the blanks" that are missing from online education.

Also, are you an extrovert? Are you an energetic, fearless personality that has no issues jumping into uncomfortable situations with both feet? If so, an online education might also suit you. What you end up lacking in experiential coursework, you will more than make up in just jumping in, failing quickly, learning, and eventually succeeding.

Personally, online coursework was a bad idea for me for the two reasons above. First, I don't have anything remotely resembling a therapeutic background, and I really need to have that experience as part of my training. Second, I'm very introverted and *very* guarded. I know that those two personality traits will work against me in this field, so I perceive the experiential portion of the in-person training to be VITAL in my potential success as a Hypnotherapist.

As with most things in life, the ultimate answers is...

...it depends. :)

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Permalink Reply by Kacey on December 6, 2011 at 4:00pm

Both are excellent resources of information. I've learned mostly online through a hypnotist friend of mine and also from studying the works of Sean Michael Andrews, John Cerbone, etc. I would however love to enroll in a speed trance course at some point whenever one opens up on the east coast again because I would really love the physical proximity and everything. I think the next time maybe Cerbone starts a course in New York or in around that area, I may jump at the chance.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on December 6, 2011 at 4:01pm

We are having a mis-communication

Some folks practice with an empty chair -- 

Ian Last said:

Hello Michael,

Thank you for clarifying 3 very important points about the comment of practicing.  I completley agree with B & C, but I personally think that practicing with everyone and anyone gives us the confidence to do A.

Please feel free to disagree if you wish, because if we all thought the same no-one would ever learn anything.

A) The best practice is working with real people- 

B) 100 practice sessions does not equal 1 real session with a paying client 

C) Many people have developed bad habits because they practiced doing something incorrectly

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Permalink Reply by Ian Last on December 6, 2011 at 4:51pm

Sorry Michael, I interpreted "real people" to mean paying customers. 

I'd never even thought of practicing with an empty chair, but if rehearsing a script by oneself helps someone, I'm not against it.  But nothing beats a breathing person for practice in my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by owen mcginty on December 7, 2011 at 12:23am

I think online can severely inhibit sensory acuity.

I believe that in person training (everything else being equal - same instructor, same course content etc etc) will be at least as effective as the online training, if not better, every time.

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Permalink Reply by Barry C on December 7, 2011 at 1:08am

I personally think you get better experience in person, as its hard to believe what you can achieve and have the confidence to go and do and act as if without having firstly experienced first hand, but i do believe once you have had some experience its easy to pick up extras online, but thats just my personal preference. :)

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Permalink Reply by Brian David Phillips on December 11, 2011 at 7:42pm

Depends.  If you're dealing with skill based materials then having live practice partners to play with and an instructor to guide is great BUT if you're talking about general principles and lecture then live is nice as you are actually in the room but online can do it for most folks.

There are also hybrid approaches where principles or demonstrations are done online or via video and then folks practice in groups on their own.  A number of folks have used my DVD sets in that way, as key off for their own practice groups.

If I have the choice, I prefer in person but for many folks this is not a practical option due to travel expenses and required extra time off from work and the like while online options allow folks a bit more flexibility in terms of who they can train with.  Of course, if they can do the in person experience I would encourage folks to do so . . . with a competent well-versed instructor, that is . . . but . . . online can certainly be an enriching experience for many folks.

- Brian

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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig - HypnosisAustin on December 12, 2011 at 9:39am

I believe that there's really no substitute for live, in-person training involving actual practice and face-to-face interaction. Trying to study hypnosis entirely via distance-learning, books, DVDs, and so on is really difficult and ill-advised.

However, once you have a foundation in the skills, these other tools can open up educational possibilities that just weren't there. Not everyone can travel the world to study in-person all the time. 

So I'd say there's a slight edge to in-person instruction, but that distance-learning fills the gap when that's not feasible.

James

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Permalink Reply by Lisa on December 12, 2011 at 2:12pm

Hi Antonio,

    I think the mode of training matters much less than the substance. I too have done both in person and online training. There are entirely inadequate live in person trainings  and excellent pretty thorough online ones-and every possible combination in between. People can learn in many different ways. 

   It just doesn't matter if you learn it online or in person in regards to being well rounded. I think what matters is that you are willing to put in the time and effort learning and practicing stuff that comes easy to you and stuff that doesn't. Things in your current framework and approach as well as techniques and ideas far afield of it. It isn't enough to just be aware of it. Study it and do it. Practice it enough to make it yours. Don't only practice what you like best doing-practice the stuff that gives you fits. You'll own it and you may grow to love it too. Either way you'll be more well rounded than if you just practice the 7 notes you sing so well already. It may be pretty but it limits you.

   It matters what you are willing to do as a student and practitioner, the effort you make towards learning that truly matters in becoming well rounded whether online or in person. 

   I hope to be a practitioner middle of 2012-but I'm gonna be a student forever. There is so much to learn, so many techniques and schools of thought-I'm kinda hoping I'm wrong and reincarnation really exists. There is much more than a single lifetime's worth of stuff to learn in this field.

  The line between in person and online training is so blurred now that really neither one is purely one or the other. It is becoming the same. In some instances it already is indistinguishable.

  gentle eve'

  Lisa

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