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Permalink Reply by Michael Haifleigh on June 3, 2010 at 1:53pm

John,

I don't necessarily understand "emotion at time = perception of subject = opinion of subject".

I would say that all of our opinions are not run by our sub-conscious or our belief systems. Thinking that this is not the case, opinions would seem to matter. And we should probably not ignore them. There is probably value to be gained by noticing our own and others' opinions.

Will we ever agree? Probably. Will that constitute an answer to something? Maybe.

Michael

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on June 3, 2010 at 6:12pm

Hi John,

I think I get what you are asking and I believe that our opinions and beliefs are state dependent and reflect our psycho-neuro-endo-and physical state at any given time. When we are functioning on auto-pilot our previous conditioning/programming rules for that state. Thankfully - we can by-pass and/or reprogram our conditioning/programming when in enhanced states --

Michael E.

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Permalink Reply by Antoine Pruyssers on June 3, 2010 at 6:24pm

Okay, I may be overstepping my boundaries here, but maybe you can find yourself in my view of reality;

You have probably heard the sentence:"The map is not the territory.", concerning our internal realities, and it is so true.
I also found that our internal realities(IR) influence the "actual reality"(AR), on a quantum-level, resulting in multiple dimensions of reality*, overlapping each other.
This is why facts and opinions differ so much, from person to person, because they not only interpret the AR in their own way, they influence their "personal reality"(PR)*, with their own beliefs.

So with this said, the answer to your question:" If this is the case does it matter what any of us say if because it will just be based on our belief systems and blueprint.? Will we ever agree and get an answer to anything?"

Yes, it does matter what any of us say, because even if one does not agree, it still leads to a realization of ones own beliefs and personal reality-experience.

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on June 4, 2010 at 4:04am

John,

My view of the world would rearrange your equation to say:

opinion of the subject = perception of the subject + emotion at time of opinion.

Where:
Opinion of the subject = what the subject thinks about something
Perception of the subject = the information the subject has about that something
Emotion at time of opinion = how the subject feels about that something

Where emotion at time influences amount of conviction.

It does matter what others say, because that affects our perception, which in turn, affects our opinion.

This can be evidenced by being given new information/facts that expand our understanding of the issue and that change our perspectives.

Example: During WWII, some female prisoners would willingly sleep with German guards at the prison camps. What do you think about these females?

Then, you find out that the reason they did so was because as long as they did, their families lives would be spared and they would be fed. What do you think about these females now?

I hope this makes sense in the way that I said it
John

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Permalink Reply by Steve Andrade on June 4, 2010 at 8:50am

Hi John,
I like these questions, how about one back to you?

How do you get a correlation between, "if opinion comes from our subconscious that it is not worth paying attention to or not be of any value?"

you paste together things like opinion and not agreeing which I interpret that if we have different opinions or truths, which we do, that this would be a bad thing. I would think the opposite.

That if we all had the same opinion, the same truths, that it would be worthless to have an opinion.

"Will we ever agree?"

Well if I agree with what you are presenting here, I would have to ignore your post since it would just be your opinion from your subconscious.

And finally, "Will we ever get an answer to anything?"

Every response to a question is an answer, even no response has meaning.

That was fun, good thing I didn't ignore your opinion, even if it did come a super fantastic place like the multi talented multifunction most powerful force we have, especially if imagination is one of the languages of our our subconscious. I leave mine on auto pilot, or I would probably kill myself trying to figure out how to breath while I sleep.

Enjoy,
Steve

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