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Permalink Reply by Jess Marion on -
I do not use scripts so I can't help you there. Some technical ideas that may be useful though include considering some nlp techniques in conjunction with the hypnotic process. I have found that chaining states is particularly useful in the case of panic attacks.
If you can nail down the stimulus or ISE then you can hypnotically desensitize that as well.
For more skilled practitioners you can use regressions but if you have not worked with people with panic attacks then I highly suggest staying away from this.
You may also want to consider getting as much experience as you can with people who have less severe anxiety symptoms including phobics. This will give you a better insight into how to work with someone with panic attacks.
Cheers!
Jess
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Permalink Reply by Graham Old on -
You don't really need hypnosis to conquer panic attacks.
Just teach them what's happening to their body when the "attack" develops. I do normally use hypnosis to slow that down and help them experience it bit by bit, but it's not necessary.
Graham
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Permalink Reply by Kevin Cole-NLPTrainingQuest.com on -
Hi Bruce,
I know you asked a simple question so first I'll answer it. I don't use scripts either- but if that's all you are after, you can check out a group on here simply called "Script Bank" : http://www.hypnothoughts.com/group/scriptbankNext, I noticed on your profile that you are trained in both traditional hypnosis and NLP. I'm certain you have a large enough tool box to be able to really assist anyone who suffers from panic attacks- without a script. As I'm sure you are already well aware - feelings- including panic- are created by the images, sounds, and voices that we create in our heads.
Again, as I'm sure you're already aware- all you need to do is help your clients that suffer from panic attacks understand "How" they "Do" anxiety and panic so that they can stop "Doing" those things and start "Doing" whatever emotion(s) they would prefer to "Do" (calm, relaxed, peaceful, etc.) by helping them understand how they "Do" those emotions as well.
And of course if there is one specific trigger (there are often many with panic attacks but if there is just one or two) such as with a phobia, then of course you could approach it with a 3 placed dissociation and or any other methods that effectively address panic including something as simple as EFT.
Like I said though- you asked a simple question, so this may be much more information/advice than you are seeking. If it is, then consider these responses useful to other readers- because they are...
Stay Well,
-Kevin
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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on -
Hi Bruce,No scripts from me either, but I am happy to give you a recipe-The technique that I am going to recommend is the technique that I used to help the client below:
"In 2001 I had an auto accident in which I was trapped in my car, between a stopped van and a large truck speeding up behind me. I had nowhere to go, but had to sit and watch as the truck picked up speed and crashed into me. The impact ruptured one disc and caused damage to 7 more discs.
The pain was incredible; the fear of driving became a serious problem for daily life. I was diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I avoided leaving the house and driving at certain times or in traffic. I was fearful behind the wheel, suffered anxiety attacks at the thought of leaving home. For two years the thought of being trapped and hit again increased to the point of panic attacks.
I knew the drugs the psychiatrist suggested were not the answer and that I had the answer inside myself. With Michael Ellner's NLP techniques for phobias, I was able to rid myself completely of the fear and anxiety of driving"
- Cynthia St. Louis, with permission
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Let's keep this between us -- When it's all said and done the techniques that we use are as only as good as we are... The great news is that I've got your back and the motoring is easy...
Here's my hint: Your pre-induction set up is where the action is - Once you give your client a reason to believe that the hypnotic process you will be using will help him or her over-come the panic attacks the hypnosis is easy. The goal is to empower the technique that you will be using before you start your induction... Your pre-talk gently nudges the client into a "Can Do" mindset. If a client is expecting a desired outcome before you guide him or her through whatever induction and/or technique that you decide to use -- Good things will happen!Newbies - check out the pre-talk for The Rewind Technique for Trauma and Phobias in this video- In my opinion this is the type of pre-talk that empowers the technique-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tegSpSxCgg@ Bruce-Here's the recipe:
You can use a modified version of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7xp-hacrwo
You can do this-
Michael E. @ http://nycanxietyhypnosis.com
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Permalink Reply by Bruce Fleischer on -
Thank you Michael, I appreciate it!
Michael Ellner said:
Hi Bruce,No scripts from me either, but I am happy to give you a recipe-The technique that I am going to recommend is the technique that I used to help the client below:
"In 2001 I had an auto accident in which I was trapped in my car, between a stopped van and a large truck speeding up behind me. I had nowhere to go, but had to sit and watch as the truck picked up speed and crashed into me. The impact ruptured one disc and caused damage to 7 more discs.
The pain was incredible; the fear of driving became a serious problem for daily life. I was diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I avoided leaving the house and driving at certain times or in traffic. I was fearful behind the wheel, suffered anxiety attacks at the thought of leaving home. For two years the thought of being trapped and hit again increased to the point of panic attacks.
I knew the drugs the psychiatrist suggested were not the answer and that I had the answer inside myself. With Michael Ellner's NLP techniques for phobias, I was able to rid myself completely of the fear and anxiety of driving"
- Cynthia St. Louis, with permission
===
Let's keep this between us -- When it's all said and done the techniques that we use are as only as good as we are... The great news is that I've got your back and the motoring is easy...
Here's my hint: Your pre-induction set up is where the action is - Once you give your client a reason to believe that the hypnotic process you will be using will help him or her over-come the panic attacks the hypnosis is easy. The goal is to empower the technique that you will be using before you start your induction... Your pre-talk gently nudges the client into a "Can Do" mindset. If a client is expecting a desired outcome before you guide him or her through whatever induction and/or technique that you decide to use -- Good things will happen!Newbies - check out the pre-talk for The Rewind Technique for Trauma and Phobias in this video- In my opinion this is the type of pre-talk that empowers the technique-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tegSpSxCgg@ Bruce-Here's the recipe:
You can use a modified version of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7xp-hacrwo
You can do this-
Michael E. @ http://nycanxietyhypnosis.com
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Permalink Reply by Bruce Fleischer on
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Kevin, Your response is helpful and I appreciate it, thank you.
Kevin Cole-NLPTrainingQuest.com said:Hi Bruce,
I know you asked a simple question so first I'll answer it. I don't use scripts either- but if that's all you are after, you can check out a group on here simply called "Script Bank" : http://www.hypnothoughts.com/group/scriptbankNext, I noticed on your profile that you are trained in both traditional hypnosis and NLP. I'm certain you have a large enough tool box to be able to really assist anyone who suffers from panic attacks- without a script. As I'm sure you are already well aware - feelings- including panic- are created by the images, sounds, and voices that we create in our heads.
Again, as I'm sure you're already aware- all you need to do is help your clients that suffer from panic attacks understand "How" they "Do" anxiety and panic so that they can stop "Doing" those things and start "Doing" whatever emotion(s) they would prefer to "Do" (calm, relaxed, peaceful, etc.) by helping them understand how they "Do" those emotions as well.
And of course if there is one specific trigger (there are often many with panic attacks but if there is just one or two) such as with a phobia, then of course you could approach it with a 3 placed dissociation and or any other methods that effectively address panic including something as simple as EFT.
Like I said though- you asked a simple question, so this may be much more information/advice than you are seeking. If it is, then consider these responses useful to other readers- because they are...
Stay Well,
-Kevin
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Permalink Reply by Bruce Fleischer on
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Jess, Graham, Kevin and Michael;
You all presented some excellent points. I have actually used a combination of CBT, NLP and hypnosis and found it to be very effective. I found the hypnosis to be a great way to "seal the deal" after presenting what a panic attack is and using an NLP dissociative technique, followed by hypnosis. I wasn't really satisfied with the hypnosis script (using it as a guide) but it was still quite effective and was just wondering if anyone had a better one.
Thank you all for your very good input. I gained from it and I'm sure others will as well.
Bruce
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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on -
Panic Attacks are usually caused by acute anxiety that activates our survival mechanisms. Unknowingly hyper-ventilating, unexplained dizziness, all of this just amplifies the condition, and all because we are launched into a survival mode without an identified threat.
You might do a search of the discussions here for a technique called "the blow out", and another one called "a core dump".. They are very effective intervention techniques for panic attacks.
I hope this helps
John
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