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Parts Therapy... and the Judgmental mind
I was recently asked in the "fansofjohncleesattelsstopsmokingintervention" group for more about the techniques I use with when doing a managers meeting (parts therapy).
I remembered this old discussion and decided to revive it for that reason.
I have read about, and seen used, several different forms of the parts therapy technique. Since I have recently seen questions about it, I decided to provide the techniques I use, how I use them, and what I believe is actually happening. Hopefully, some will find this useful and choose to share their insights.
To me, parts therapy sets up a discussion with the Upper Management of the person. Let me explain.
I view an individual like a company. The reactive mind is production, reacts with SOPs (standard operating procedures). The analytical mind is engineering and R&D, and the judgmental mind is upper management.
There are managers for every behavior we have. They are the reason why we do things.
Upper management has but one goal, "The benefit of the Company". All other priorities are there only to support this one goal. Even punishment can be for the good of the company.
So when I do a parts therapy session, I am talking directly to the upper management of the person.
Realizing this, I act accordingly:
I only use a light trance state for parts therapy, simply to for ease of access to the imagination.
I have the client hold the meeting in a conference room and only invite the involved parties to the meeting.
Rules of the Road:
Changes to the SOPs have to be approved by upper management FIRST, or nothing changes.
You do not TELL upper management what it will do.
You present your case from the aspect of the benefit of the person.
I speak to the parts directly, acting as a consultant. I don't go through the hassle of each part generating names for themselves anymore, I found it just wasn't necessary. As well as the parts going off to work it out themselves and come up with a solution, I already know what they need to do, or stop doing.
I address the parts as "the part of Jenny that is preventing her from" etc. leaving no question as to who I am talking to and why. I have them answer the client, and give the client their purpose in what they are doing, and how it serves them to do it.
I then state my reason for the meeting, to explain that they are not acting for the benefit of the client anymore. Originally, that may have served the client well, but times have changed, conditions have changed, they have gotten older, are an adult now, etc. and that behavior is no longer providing the benefit it once was, (and is actually a punishment for them?) So, instead of continuing to do "that", I would like to ask if you would do "this" instead, so the client can live a happier, healthier, and longer life and your function will be a benefit again. Will you do that for them?
I also use parts therapy just to get answers to why the clients do what they do. Most of the time, the client themselves have no clue and find it a very interesting session.
I always end the parts therapy session by having the client thank all of the participating parts and now allow them to get back to their jobs, doing what they do best.
If you don't understand why the client does what they do, why guess? when you can find out for sure, straight from the horse's mouth.. so to speak.
Its a very useful tool.
John
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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on -
Hi John,
What is R&D?
Thanks Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on -
That would be Research and Development. Sorry for the confusion.
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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on
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Thanks :), By the way, I like the way you put it together.
Had a long day, must go to bed, will read it again tomorrow and post what I think about it.
Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
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Permalink Reply by Leshem Yosef on -
Thank you John
I like your approach
As an alternative healer I didn't like part therapy because I use to heal by stimulate healing process without go to the small details and just let the vital force [the natural body power] to heal him self
But your approach is more gentle and I think its can work for me
Thank you again
Yosef
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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on -
Well Done John--
I often use metaphor to introduce the essence of using "Parts Therapy" to help clients resolve inner-conflicts-
Now all you have to do to help your clients relax is to ask them to close their eyes and imagine that their mind is weightless, like a light, fluffy cloud. Then ask them to take three deep breaths and notice that their body is getting warmer as they continue to relax and go deeper into this experience. . . . Ask them to tell you when their arms and legs are feeling warm and/or heavy and tell them that as soon as they do, you will tell them a very powerful Native American healing story designed to help tribe members resolve their inner-conflicts.
Here is the story.
An elderly Cherokee Medicine Man was teaching his grandchildren about health and healing. He said to them, "A fight is going on inside everyone who has an inner-conflict. It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves."
"One wolf promotes pain and disease--he feeds on fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, self-pity, guilt, and resentment."
"The other wolf promotes healing and well-being--he feeds on joy, peace, love, hope, serenity and faith."
The grandchildren thought about this story for a minute and then one child asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"
The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one they feed."
Now it's time to ask your clients to take three deep breaths and begin to bring themselves back to waking consciousness with the understanding that before they open their eyes they will think, feel, and act as if they completely understand the hidden meaning that is in this story...
This is a powerful image to leave with your clients, enhanced by the delightful story.
It really can be that easy--
Note: This healing story is an adaptation of an anonymous Native American tale. It's too bad I don't know who to give credit to for it.
Michael Ellner
PS- Roy Hunter's book Hypnosis for Inner Conflict Resolution- Introducing Parts Therapy is highly recommended
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Permalink Reply by Susan French on -
Michael,
What a great way to introduce the somewhat metaphysical/spiritual idea of "where the attention goes, so goes the energy" which I've always had a little trouble explaining to people. Thanks.
Also, I love your introduction-induction. Gentle, reassuring and yet slightly confusional. I really like it and am going to start using it.
Susan
Michael Ellner said:Well Done John--
I often use metaphor to introduce the essence of using "Parts Therapy" to help clients resolve inner-conflicts-
Now all you have to do to help your clients relax is to ask them to close their eyes and imagine that their mind is weightless, like a light, fluffy cloud. Then ask them to take three deep breaths and notice that their body is getting warmer as they continue to relax and go deeper into this experience. . . . Ask them to tell you when their arms and legs are feeling warm and/or heavy and tell them that as soon as they do, you will tell them a very powerful Native American healing story designed to help tribe members resolve their inner-conflicts.
Here is the story.
An elderly Cherokee Medicine Man was teaching his grandchildren about health and healing. He said to them, "A fight is going on inside everyone who has an inner-conflict. It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves."
"One wolf promotes pain and disease--he feeds on fear, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, self-pity, guilt, and resentment."
"The other wolf promotes healing and well-being--he feeds on joy, peace, love, hope, serenity and faith."
The grandchildren thought about this story for a minute and then one child asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"
The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one they feed."
Now it's time to ask your clients to take three deep breaths and begin to bring themselves back to waking consciousness with the understanding that before they open their eyes they will think, feel, and act as if they completely understand the hidden meaning that is in this story...
This is a powerful image to leave with your clients, enhanced by the delightful story.
It really can be that easy--
Note: This healing story is an adaptation of an anonymous Native American tale. It's too bad I don't know who to give credit to for it.
Michael Ellner
PS- Roy Hunter's book Hypnosis for Inner Conflict Resolution- Introducing Parts Therapy is highly recommended
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Permalink Reply by Susan French on
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John,
I like the way you talk to the parts directly. It seems much simpler.
I really like the idea of parts therapy but I've never found a "format" that has felt comfortable to me. It has too often felt "fake" or "artificial" or "forced." This might bridge that problem for me.
Do you get people into really deep hypnosis so as to really bypass the critical function and eliminate it's interference? The other thing about Parts, which, while brilliant in concept, always seems to involve the conscious mind too much. So I wondered about the efficacy of the information.
I've wondered about this with ideomotor signaling as well. Is it worth the time taking the person deeper and testing for SCM-only response or accept what you get from the client as valid?
PS: I DO so wish I could understand your breakdown of the parts of the mind (also brilliant) in relation to actual brain systems and function...lol. Perhaps in another life.
Thanks for this. Your contributions, your patience, and your generosity are always very much appreciated by me.
Hugs,
Susan
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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on -
Beautiful, John. This is pretty much the way I use parts therapy, too. It is a marvelous method for changework!
I begin the conversation with the involved part by acknowledging what a fine job it has been doing up to this point and thanking it on the behalf of myself and the client. I also explain that the client has asked for my help in resolving the issue [name the specific issue] and ask for permission to be involved in this process. The answer is usually a yes, but I have had a few declines, which says something in itself.
I do ask the part to come up with the alternative behavior (which has usually been primed beforehand) as I believe that gives the client back his power to change forward.
I notice that there are some who use parts therapy at a deeper level; I have had more success, like you, at the lighter state.
Parts Therapy should be a component of smoking cessation work. Without the whole team on board, the client will self-sabotage. It's an easy and quick way to deal with triggers and instill healthy behavior.
Michael, since you shared your Native American story with me nearly 2 months ago, I have used it many times and can't tell you how many people have appreciated the insight and power of it! The metaphor of the hungry wolf flies around in conversation regularly. Thanks again.
Best wishes,
Kelley
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Permalink Reply by Roy Hunter on
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I have to jump into this discussion, as the pioneer of parts therapy (Charles Tebbetts) trained me in 1983 and asked me to continue his work before his passing in 1992.
The metaphor of a company with managers as John mentioned is one that I use in my workshops to illustrate the metaphor of parts therapy being a process of MEDIATION.
Over the years many variations of parts therapy have evolved; and I have also updated my mentor’s work. However, I have organized parts therapy into a discipline that is very effective for most of the people most of the time. There are three phases: preparation, the 11-step process, and concluding the session. All steps of the three phases are explored IN DEPTH in my parts therapy book, HYPNOSIS FOR INNER CONFLICT RESOLUTION: INTRODUCING PARTS THERAPY (2005, Crown House Publishing).
During the preparation phase, I endeavor to guide clients into DEEP states of hypnosis (rather than only light states), because analytical clients (such as me) will NOT enjoy lasting results when only light states are used. This opinion has been validated by other professionals during my teaching parts therapy workshops dating back to 1990. Once the client is deep enough, I begin the 11-Step Process:
1. Identify the part.
2. Gain rapport (compliment the part).
3. Call out the part.
4. Thank it for emerging.
5. Discover its purpose.
6. Call out other parts as appropriate.
7. Negotiate and mediate.
8. Ask parts to come to terms of agreement.
9. Confirm and summarize terms of agreement.
10. Give direct suggestions as appropriate.
11. INTEGRATE the parts! (The formal parts therapy process is completed.)
I work as a MEDIATOR, remaining objective, and helping clients come up with their own answers.
There are both detours and pitfalls that we need to be aware of, and they are covered in my book and in my workshops, which I am happy to facilitate upon request. (Email me privately if you wish to sponsor one.)
Also, I invite all of you who are interested to join my parts therapy group in Hypnothoughts.
Roy Hunter, M.S., FAPHP
www.royhunter.com
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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on
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Thank you for your input about the depth required for permanent change, Roy. I want to read your book and will soon...
Also, your point about re-integrating the parts is very important. I was taught to seal this by having the client cross hands on chest and unite the parts figuratively and emotionally this way.
Kelley
Roy Hunter said:I have to jump into this discussion, as the pioneer of parts therapy (Charles Tebbetts) trained me in 1983 and asked me to continue his work before his passing in 1992.
The metaphor of a company with managers as John mentioned is one that I use in my workshops to illustrate the metaphor of parts therapy being a process of MEDIATION.
Over the years many variations of parts therapy have evolved; and I have also updated my mentor’s work. However, I have organized parts therapy into a discipline that is very effective for most of the people most of the time. There are three phases: preparation, the 11-step process, and concluding the session. All steps of the three phases are explored IN DEPTH in my parts therapy book, HYPNOSIS FOR INNER CONFLICT RESOLUTION: INTRODUCING PARTS THERAPY (2005, Crown House Publishing).
During the preparation phase, I endeavor to guide clients into DEEP states of hypnosis (rather than only light states), because analytical clients (such as me) will NOT enjoy lasting results when only light states are used. This opinion has been validated by other professionals during my teaching parts therapy workshops dating back to 1990. Once the client is deep enough, I begin the 11-Step Process:
1. Identify the part.
2. Gain rapport (compliment the part).
3. Call out the part.
4. Thank it for emerging.
5. Discover its purpose.
6. Call out other parts as appropriate.
7. Negotiate and mediate.
8. Ask parts to come to terms of agreement.
9. Confirm and summarize terms of agreement.
10. Give direct suggestions as appropriate.
11. INTEGRATE the parts! (The formal parts therapy process is completed.)
I work as a MEDIATOR, remaining objective, and helping clients come up with their own answers.
There are both detours and pitfalls that we need to be aware of, and they are covered in my book and in my workshops, which I am happy to facilitate upon request. (Email me privately if you wish to sponsor one.)
Also, I invite all of you who are interested to join my parts therapy group in Hypnothoughts.
Roy Hunter, M.S., FAPHP
www.royhunter.com
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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on
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I usually do part therapy when i have a client who is experiencing an internal conflict.
For example my clients from today said to me, "part of me wants to get rid my access weight and my other part wants me to eat more"!
So, In that case I use part therapy to help reducing the conflict between the parts.
Usually just by doing that I have come to realize that it helps in resulting in more then one part involved, for example the part that have things in common with the actual cause.
In today's case, It was unresolved personal childhood issues, for being a girl, as a result of past programming, that first born should be a girl, and boys are born to be capable, when her brother never was, so she would do the things he was suppose to do but didn't bother to do, while she was the one jumping a head and start doing it, not even giving him the brother the chance, because he didn't bothered. her experience, where her secondary gain was to prove she is no less then the opposite sex, that means authority, self punishment, self sabotaging, out of control.
I use ideomotor responses when I do the part therapy asking questions from the subconscious mind about the issue at hand, and for an example, If the answer is "yes” for self-sabotaging, we as what is the secondary gain as we then negotiate after having the internal conflict.
I rarely use parts therapy for the first visit, but this client is going a way and we decided we will do that, it was a long session, we did some deep relaxation first... but normally I like doing a calm progressive relaxation sessions first..
Usually when we have an enjoyable sessions, the results are better when l consider parts therapy to have client experience their inner conflict as they overcome the issues.
Doreen Cohanim C.Ht,HBCE
Thank You Guys, Love learning New Styles and Techniques...
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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on
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Hi Roy,
I thank you for your input :) Allow me to comment on a portion or two.
Roy Hunter said:I have to jump into this discussion, as the pioneer of parts therapy (Charles Tebbetts) trained me in 1983 and asked me to continue his work before his passing in 1992.
The metaphor of a company with managers as John mentioned is one that I use in my workshops to illustrate the metaphor of parts therapy being a process of MEDIATION.
My approach is similar except I take the role of client advocate (lawyer if you will). To me, mediation means the parties will abide by the outcome. I have found that the decision rests with upper management, so I focus on getting them to decide in my favor. I have found that an agenda of pointing out erroneous behavior, providing supportive evidence, and providing a more desirable course of action, that will benefit the client, is very effective.
Over the years many variations of parts therapy have evolved; and I have also updated my mentor’s work. However, I have organized parts therapy into a discipline that is very effective for most of the people most of the time. There are three phases: preparation, the 11-step process, and concluding the session. All steps of the three phases are explored IN DEPTH in my parts therapy book, HYPNOSIS FOR INNER CONFLICT RESOLUTION: INTRODUCING PARTS THERAPY (2005, Crown House Publishing).
During the preparation phase, I endeavor to guide clients into DEEP states of hypnosis (rather than only light states), because analytical clients (such as me) will NOT enjoy lasting results when only light states are used.
Understanding that when the imagination is actively engaged in providing input, the critical factor (that is responsible for providing what is real and true from outside input) goes dormant and is not involved, is important. Which is why I found somnambulism is not required. The results have nothing to do with how analytical you are, the analytical mind is NOT involved in the process.
This opinion has been validated by other professionals during my teaching parts therapy workshops dating back to 1990.
My opinion is based on my model of the mind in reference to trance, and validated by the clients I have successfully helped with it. Which would carry more weight I wonder?
Once the client is deep enough, I begin the 11-Step Process
1. Identify the part.
2. Gain rapport (compliment the part).
3. Call out the part.
4. Thank it for emerging.
5. Discover its purpose.
6. Call out other parts as appropriate.
7. Negotiate and mediate.
8. Ask parts to come to terms of agreement.
9. Confirm and summarize terms of agreement.
10. Give direct suggestions as appropriate.
11. INTEGRATE the parts! (The formal parts therapy process is completed.)
I have the client visualize the conference room, there should be a conference table and chairs, and they should see themselves seated at the table.
Then I have them issue an internal invitation to the applicable parts to join us in the conference room, I have the client look at the chairs they will sit in, and let me know when they have arrived.
I then announce the reason for the meeting and that we are here to find out more about it.
I then ask the individual parts that were invited what their purpose is and have them tell the client (who tells me).
I then explain while that might have been a benefit to the client originally; time, conditions, etc have changed and the original purpose is no longer valid.
I recommend an alternate behavior, and provide support as to why it would better serve the client to do it that way, and then ask if the part would like to be a useful part of the client's behavior again, and oversee this new behavior.
Each part is dealt with individually, and sometimes I band them together to work as a team for stronger reinforcement. (i.e. not smoking).
Once the new behavior is established and agreed to, I have the client thank the parts and allow the parts to get back to their tasks which they are so good at.
When that has been done, I have the client open their eyes and we discuss what happened.
I work as a MEDIATOR, remaining objective, and helping clients come up with their own answers.
The client and I establish what goal they want to achieve beforehand. I just get the parts to sign up for supporting it.
There are both detours and pitfalls that we need to be aware of, and they are covered in my book and in my workshops, which I am happy to facilitate upon request. (Email me privately if you wish to sponsor one.)
Also, I invite all of you who are interested to join my parts therapy group in Hypnothoughts.
Roy Hunter, M.S., FAPHP
www.royhunter.com
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