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Past Life Reggression V.S. The Bible
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What is the moral line between using Past Life with a Christian with a client?
Do you believe there an ethical line?
If you use past lives "Do you believe it is your job to mess with your client's faith?
Do you use the John the Baptist-Elijah example just so you can take cash from your clients because you know they will not do the research to understand that Elijah never died and he needed Johns body to live and die in so he could live in heaven forever.
I'm not being preaching I just have got a lot of potential clients talking to me about past lives lately and I wanted to get other opinions.
Here is what it says about past lives in the bible
Hebrews 9:27 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment.
Please let me know your thoughts.
What is the moral line between using Past Life with a Christian with a client?
Do you believe there an ethical line?
If you use past lives "Do you believe it is your job to mess with your client's faith?
Do you use the John the Baptist-Elijah example just so you can take cash from your clients because you know they will not do the research to understand that Elijah never died and he needed Johns body to live and die in so he could live in heaven forever.
I'm not being preaching I just have got a lot of potential clients talking to me about past lives lately and I wanted to get other opinions.
Here is what it says about past lives in the bible
Hebrews 9:27 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment.
Please let me know your thoughts.
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Permalink Reply by James Klingensmith on -
Kelley Woods said:Hello James,
Obviously this thread could take some predictable turns and lead way off of the questions that you pose (I hope it will not).
That being said, perhaps you can find illumination by considering why you "just have got a lot of potential clients talking to me about past lives lately". Do these people feel safe in approaching you regarding this topic? Do they see PLR as a potential avenue to address their problems? Can your practice benefit from a wonderful tool without compromising your own belief system?
There is a girl who gives ion foot baths at my shop, she is in to all the "Hippie Hokus Pokus" talking to dead, past lives, ora's, spritaul cleanses and her influence on my clients is very dangerous. As of Dec. 1st I'm moving offices but it still has put a bad taste in my clients mouths (let alone all the walk in business potential clients) and my trust, reputation and credibility is at stake. Most of my clients believe it is wrong although I'm guilty by association, other clients want to experiment (and some go to the same church I go to) and that is what led me to this discussion.
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Permalink Reply by James Szeles on -
The Bible was edited around 390 AD. Parts of the bible that speak of life after death and parts that didn't fit church doctrine were taken out. If your uncomfortable working with them then I would send them to someone can work with them.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on
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Good responses so far. .. My two cents .. STAY OUT OF THE BIBLE.,, STAY AWAY FROM JUSTIFICATION ,,, STAY OUT OF YOUR OWN HEAD. A hypnotist must be able to adopt his client's core belief's.. work within them and cleanly jettison them after a session. Whether they are real or not... they are constructs the unconcious mind uses to talk with the concious mind and that's very real to your client. Whether your client makes a breakthrough because she was Cleopatra in a past life or she was the fairy Queen of Endor, it doesn't matter. What matters is the breakthrough. YOUR religion. your Faith has to place in that equation. Whatever God they believe in is responsible for sending them to heaven or hell. You are not.
It is up to you though why you would need to do PLR when there are so many other constructs you might consider using.. Nod your head if you understand.
Hugh Cole
The Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet,
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Kelley Woods said:
This tiny glimpse (was it a past life or merely my mind's creation?) suddenly explained some of my issues with food. I have had a great interest and compassion with the Holocaust most of my life: is this the source of my "vision"? The answer to that question really isn't important to me; where I go from here IS. My experience with PLR clients is that they often feel the same way.
Best wishes,
Kelley
I rest my case,
Ps. yes I know The fairy queen of Endor. In this dimension she has a differant identity but She is somewhat happier after we conversed,
Hugh Cole
The Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet,
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Permalink Reply by Roy Hunter on
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Not only is your question a moral one, in my opinion it also involves professional ethics.
Sometimes a client may regress into a real or imagined past life (more likely with “affect bridge” technique). When this happens, we should deal with what emerges regardless of our own personal or professional opinions regarding past lives.
Years ago a devout Lutheran who saw me for the fear of flying regressed into a real or imagined past life where she allegedly suffocated to death. After clearing that event, she stated (while still in deep trance), “It’s not heights that make me afraid of flying, it’s the fear of suffocating to death because the plane is airtight.”
After the session, she said: “I didn’t know I believed in that stuff. Do you think I might have lived that life?”
I could neither give her a YES answer nor a NO answer, and here’s why…
A “yes” answer could have caused a crisis of faith, or her husband or pastor might have invalidated the session. A “no” answer could have immediately invalidated her release of the fear of flying. Instead, I described several possibilities: fantasy or metaphor, reincarnation, soul channeling, tapping into Holy Spirit or Universal Consciousness. I then said, “You could have seen a movie as a child or heard a story about someone. In any event, your subconscious found a way for you to release the fear of flying.” I went on to explain that she should draw her own conclusions, because it wasn’t my place to determine which explanation to choose.
Several years later she bumped into me in a Safeway store and told me that she had flown over 250,000 miles since that session…and was studying Edgar Cayce.
In my opinion, it is unprofessional to deliberately facilitate a past life regression (PLR) with a client unless he or she requests it. Also, it is very risky to our professional credibility if we try to “sell” the client on a past life regression. It is equally unprofessional to criticize a client who requests a PLR just because the therapist is a PLR skeptic. You may either honor the client’s request without criticism, or refer the client to another hypnotist who is comfortable facilitating a PLR. We do NOT have the right to attempt to impose our religious beliefs on our clients.
Chapter 13 of my text, THE ART OF HYPNOTHERAPY, discusses past life regressions. This chapter includes ethical considerations for the PLR believer, the skeptic, and the undecided. Additionally, I discuss the possible explanations.
Regarding scripture, I was a personal friend of the late Arthur Winkler. He had a doctorate in theology, and was a Methodist Minister who also believed in past lives.
Roy Hunter, M.S., FAPHP, ordained minister
www.royhunter.com
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Permalink Reply by James Klingensmith on
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Thank you Roy, That cleared it up for me. I really needed to hear that.
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Permalink Reply by Margaret on -
Hi James.
Well, I have never heard this scripture used before to support the theory of past life. I always understand it and heard it preached as exactly what it says, man has a destiny to die once and then face judgement.
I am a hypnotist and also a christian. To avoid conflict with clients especially religous ones, I simply do not use past life regression. When asked why I simply say it is against my religion, and move on with the conversation. No big long discussion about it. If you want to practice past life regression then do so. If you do not feel comfortable or confident then don't.
If you do want to practice it and have alot of christian clients, simply do not use this technique with them or get sucked into arguments or big discussions. That way you stay on the safe side and still maitain respect with all your clients, no matter their religous beliefs.
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Permalink Reply by Beverly Lieb, C.Ht. on -
My general rule of thumb is....I don't offer past life regression to any client....they have to ask for it....I have written a great deal about it on my website and they can choose it if they desire...that pretty much takes care of messing with anyone's belief system.
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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on -
Same here Beverly,
I don't offer past life regression to any client unless they ask for it.
Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
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Permalink Reply by Beverly Lieb, C.Ht. on
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Nice to see you on this thread, Doreen.
Doreen Cohanim C.Ht said:Same here Beverly,
I don't offer past life regression to any client unless they ask for it.
Doreen Cohanim C.Ht
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Permalink Reply by Beverly Lieb, C.Ht. on
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Hello again, James.
This really isn't an issue for me because my entire hypnotherapy practice is based on my clients' religious, spiritual, or philosophical core belief system. I can't imagine using any hypnotherapy tool that is contrary to the client's belief system.
See my website link"
http://www.aronyaspiritenterprises.com/2About.html
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Permalink Reply by Blake Atan on -
The bible is 100% true and accurate and you are right to be concerned over PLR... The new age BS artists here will waffle on with their ignorance of biblical truth with the usual arrogance of those blinded by humanistic and demonic influence. To claim they know the bible has been edited and changed is simply egotistical lies, where on earth are the facts of this? Hypnosis is a phenomenon, but it is entirely natural and not at all conflicting with Christianity unless it is twisted and intertwined with new age BS like some try to do here. They speak with such conviction over matters to which they have no authority what so ever and wonder why truly spiritual ppl take offense to their blasphemy! Get you own house in order before you give others advise on how to achieve salvation you charlatans... There is but one GOD and one way to reach heaven and that is through CHRIST, there is no reincarnation nor is there righteousness in false doctrines, it is this arrogance which caused the fall and which still separates man from GOD...
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