Past Life Reggression V.S. The Bible

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Permalink Reply by Michael Haifleigh on November 29, 2009 at 5:48pm

Lee,

I agree with you on this point. Would you care to begin an inquiry?

Michael


Lee Pelletier said:

Hi Doreen:

Belief is a fascinating arena and honestly well worth our undrestanding as hypnotists.

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on November 29, 2009 at 6:16pm

Hi Michael Haifleigh,

I think it is a great Idea to begin an inquiry about belief and our undrestanding as hypnotists.
maybe even a new discussion?

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by James Klingensmith on November 29, 2009 at 7:21pm

Great view points thanks Lee you answered the questions better than I.

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Permalink Reply by Pete Atan on November 29, 2009 at 9:36pm

I think that James Klingensmith deserves a great deal of credit for having the courage and the foresight to raise the issue and for having the conviction to respond in such an honest and impassioned manner. In my view it’s been the most thought provoking thread on this forum so far... Also James on another subject I really enjoyed looking through your website, my son is designing mine at present and he has taken some inspiration from yours... I hope we can chat again; I am very keen to swap ideas with you on among other things CBT etc.
GOD bless.
Pete

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Permalink Reply by Leshem Yosef on November 30, 2009 at 11:21am

Hi James
Don’t get me wrong I don’t want to argue about religion o no
Just a philosophic question
You as religious don’t believe in reincarnation
Or you do believe in reincarnation but don’t believe that it's allow to mess with it


James Klingensmith said:

Great view points thanks Lee you answered the questions better than I.

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Permalink Reply by Nic Castle on November 30, 2009 at 11:53am

Peter, your comments are wholly unacceptable, no matter what your religious beliefs it is about time you showed a bit of respect for other peoples views. Using terms like "The new age BS artists" is offensive and people would complain if people used terms like "Christian BS artists" using language like that brings you down to the level of people around the world who cause problems around the world.

You may have certain religious conviction and from you comments feel you are right and every one else is wrong. That is arrogance.

Pete Aiton said:

You need to remove the plank from your own eye mate. Perhaps you’re not as clever as your arrogance suggests. Read the bible and pray more and chat a bit less opinion as if it were fact.. As for Catholicism; my reply to that would open such a massive debate that there would be no more room on the site for hypnosis discussion, needless to say if you had half a notion of what true Christians believe you would know my thoughts on the church of Rome... good night and GOD bless. sshhh
James Szeles said:

"among Christians there is not a universal agreement on the canon of Scripture either. Protestants believe that the deutrocanonical books ("apocrypha") are not part of sacred Scripture, while most Orthodox churches and the Roman Catholic Church believe they are. Yet still, several Orthodox churches hold books to be inspired which are not recognized by the Roman Catholic church"~from answers.com

Pete Aiton said:

The bible is 100% true and accurate and you are right to be concerned over PLR... The new age BS artists here will waffle on with their ignorance of biblical truth with the usual arrogance of those blinded by humanistic and demonic influence. To claim they know the bible has been edited and changed is simply egotistical lies, where on earth are the facts of this? Hypnosis is a phenomenon, but it is entirely natural and not at all conflicting with Christianity unless it is twisted and intertwined with new age BS like some try to do here. They speak with such conviction over matters to which they have no authority what so ever and wonder why truly spiritual ppl take offense to their blasphemy! Get you own house in order before you give others advise on how to achieve salvation you charlatans... There is but one GOD and one way to reach heaven and that is through CHRIST, there is no reincarnation nor is there righteousness in false doctrines, it is this arrogance which caused the fall and which still separates man from GOD...

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Permalink Reply by James Klingensmith on November 30, 2009 at 7:47pm

Leshem Yosef said:

Hi James
Don’t get me wrong I don’t want to argue about religion o no Just a philosophic question You as religious don’t believe in reincarnation Or you do believe in reincarnation but don’t believe that it's allow to mess with it


Awesome Question:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WARNING BELOW IS ONLY PERSONAL OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope I don't get buzzed and no one get's mad at me if I answer this question honestly, Please don't read if you get offended easily I am only answering a question.
I believe the idea of reincarnation is insulting, this would mean that God screwed up, or He is playing a game with our lives and are lives are equivalent to Mario Bro's., or we have no soul and we are nothing more than atoms, or this is hell and we can never escape like Bill Murry's Groundhogs Day where we have to live it over and over and over again.
There would be no reason to say your sorry, try to live a good life, fall in love, believe in love, do the right thing, or to grow older than 30, because you would be trapped in a never ending cycle.
I see clients for pain and people down on their luck if I entertained this idea with my clients even a little and they believed this idea that one could just restart. Truthfully if they had an ounce of intelligence they would drink the kool-aid. Why not just kill yourself when thing go bad you have another life waiting for you anyway?
Personally It would make me upset to believe I have no control where I go when I die and this would make life pointless.
I have a choice to believe the Bible is true and reincarnation is false. Here is the cool part if I am wrong I will be reborn after I die and maybe I could get it right next time. If I am right I go to heaven. This is the only win-win situation possible.

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Permalink Reply by James Klingensmith on November 30, 2009 at 7:51pm

Please keep the discussion about the discussion and don't belittle someone about their beliefs.

Nic Castle said:

Peter, your comments are wholly unacceptable, no matter what your religious beliefs it is about time you showed a bit of respect for other peoples views. Using terms like "The new age BS artists" is offensive and people would complain if people used terms like "Christian BS artists" using language like that brings you down to the level of people around the world who cause problems around the world.

You may have certain religious conviction and from you comments feel you are right and every one else is wrong. That is arrogance.

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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig on November 30, 2009 at 8:57pm

It's fascinating to me that some people here feel free to refer to others as "new age BS artists"--yet when someone points out that the arrogance of such a comment, the second poster is told not to belittle someone's beliefs.

Peter--No one here is objecting to you being Christian. They're objecting to you being obnoxious. Curiously, some here have referred to that as simply being Christian.

Lee--Your posts have been very eloquent and reasonable, and you sound respectful of other religions. I have a question for you, and it is meant to test the boundaries of that respect: You mentioned a survey and asked if we would direct clergy and religious leaders to it. I know a number of Wiccan high priests and priestesses, and I can easily track down leaders within the Druidic, Asatru, and Voudon communities. Are they the kind of people you are seeking to survey? Or are they "new-age BS artists"?

If they're not the kind of people you want, perhaps you could be respectful enough to say that you want the opinions of Christian clergy and religious leaders.

I never push my religion on a client, or anyone else for that matter, in part because it's against my religion to do so. :-)

However, I would like to clarify to Klingensmith that my religion does not say you are damned to Hell for not agreeing with us--because our view of a loving Divinity is not congruent with the idea of a damning god.

Blessed be,

James

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on November 30, 2009 at 9:10pm

Hello James k,

I have to agree with Nic and James H, and why is it ok for one to share his personal opinion but not ok for other whos his reply to this discussion is appropriate.

Peter, your comments are wholly unacceptable, no matter what your religious beliefs it is about time you showed a bit of respect for other peoples views. Using terms like "The new age BS artists" is offensive and people would complain if people used terms like "Christian BS artists" using language like that brings you down to the level of people around the world who cause problems around the world.

You may have certain religious conviction and from you comments feel you are right and every one else is wrong. That is arrogance.

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Doreen Cohanim C.Ht on November 30, 2009 at 9:14pm

By the way James,

This is heaven and you live in it, so why not enjoy it... :)

Doreen Cohanim C.Ht

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Permalink Reply by Pete Atan on December 1, 2009 at 12:39am

Obnoxious and arrogant for believing in and following the word of GOD? And this from one who keeps the company of wiccans, voodoo or should I say hoo doo practitioners and other spawn of satan! Your comments have no effect on me. The world is given over to the one you follow just look at the evil in the world. To believe that this is heaven is not only sad but clear evidence that you have been deceived. And for one of you to think after making those comments that I would accept your friend request? No thanks.. Your insults and persecution will never sway my faith in the one True GOD and to answer your point, I replied to this initial thread from a Christian perspective because that is in keeping with the actual question! Where is you are maliciously deviating from that in order to espouse more of your, no I will not say new age BS, to be more candid and blunt, your satanic lies.. Have a great life I pity you when it’s all over... I will pray for you that your eyes will be opened GOD bless

James Hazlerig said:

It's fascinating to me that some people here feel free to refer to others as "new age BS artists"--yet when someone points out that the arrogance of such a comment, the second poster is told not to belittle someone's beliefs.

Peter--No one here is objecting to you being Christian. They're objecting to you being obnoxious. Curiously, some here have referred to that as simply being Christian.

Lee--Your posts have been very eloquent and reasonable, and you sound respectful of other religions. I have a question for you, and it is meant to test the boundaries of that respect: You mentioned a survey and asked if we would direct clergy and religious leaders to it. I know a number of Wiccan high priests and priestesses, and I can easily track down leaders within the Druidic, Asatru, and Voudon communities. Are they the kind of people you are seeking to survey? Or are they "new-age BS artists"?

If they're not the kind of people you want, perhaps you could be respectful enough to say that you want the opinions of Christian clergy and religious leaders.

I never push my religion on a client, or anyone else for that matter, in part because it's against my religion to do so. :-)

However, I would like to clarify to Klingensmith that my religion does not say you are damned to Hell for not agreeing with us--because our view of a loving Divinity is not congruent with the idea of a damning god.

Blessed be,

James

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