persistant non-mainstream ezcema

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Permalink Reply by Carmel Cathie on April 9, 2009 at 4:06pm

Thanks again Jilly, All stuff I have tried with her, but its great to have it narrowed down by someone else. You'v actually managed to simplify it for me by noting key points where her issues lie... mother/womb stuff, and theres still some past life stuff too. But thanks for reminding me about the crab apple, we've actually done Bach Flower remedies - I have them all! - but I think another layer must be ready by now. So yes, its time to get back into that.

Love and Light to you and thanks again
Carmel

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Permalink Reply by Carmel Cathie on April 9, 2009 at 4:10pm

Thank you John. Its been great to have the Yin and that Yang between you and Jilly commenting on this issue... The Yang has been the side thats been weaker in this exploration and you're input has been great. You make a very good point about the Elidel and a life time of itching... and I will present it to her as an option and see where she goes with it.

I'm off out into the park for some oxygen and exercise. Have a great Holiday weekend... if you guys do Easter?? I can't remember ever taking an Easter holiday weekend when I lived in the US now I think about it... Sidetracked?!

Love and light
Carmel

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Permalink Reply by dan jones on April 9, 2009 at 10:06pm

Hi Carmel,

Things that have worked in the cases I've had are:

Using Ideo-Dynamic Healing methods to directly access the unconscious part of the person and just fascilitate their own natural healing response

Using guided imagery and metaphor to lay down healing patterns (normally metaphors around nature and plants and preparing soil etc).

Communicating directly with the ezcema in trance, acknowledging that it appeared for a reason that perhaps was once beneficial, thanking it for this and explaining that it can allow any necessary learning to be maintained and absorbed and that it is no longer required now, and that if in the future it has any more useful information to communicate it can find a comfortable way of doing this, perhaps by creating a tingling or warmth or coolness or another comfortable sensation.

I have used a pendulum, asking for signs for yes and no and a neutral sign. Then asked it if the unconscious (or a deeper part of you etc) is willing to work on making that skin fresh and comfortable (picking whatever words are suitable at the time), if it comes back 'no' then asking if it is willing to work on the issue stopping it working on the ezcema (and if 'no' then chunking up one more until you get a 'yes' then working down resolving the issues from the top down) then once you get the yes go back to neutral then ask for it to give a yes sign to say when it has started working on that issue and to give a no/stop sign when it has resolved that issue (or the ezcema).

I've known of one person that took more than a session to help him get rid of his ezcema because his belief was it was a part of his identity and he was worried that if he got rid of it he may lose a part of who he is. He would get worse when trying anything. So it was a case of working to give him control so that he could turn it on and off. That way he wasn't losing anything or any part of himself. If he wanted it he could have it, but at times that it would be inconvenient he could stop it (Obviously it takes a few hours to come or go to a noticeable extent). It may be that in the above situation a part of the person is thinking they don't want to lose a part of who they are (somewhere deep in their mind/body) and so giving them control to increase it, decrease it, or turn it off or on (could even use metaphors about light switches, etc or plants and how they flower at the time that is right, and close at the right time, and can open a bit or all the way deepending on the weather etc, or how water can flow down a river and slow down, and speed up, and be stopped or started by dams, locks or just natural processes of the river, like depth of the water (slower moving in deeper water, faster in shallow), width of the river (slower moving in a very wide river, faster in a narrow river), fallen trees etc...(This metaphor obviously has many other healing properties in it relating to ezcema).

Other times I've found that if it gets worse any way it is useful to say you're suggesting an experiment just to test an idea (or whatever frame you feel would work) and find out on a scale of 1-100 how bad they think it is now, and say between now and next session you want them to try to get it up to ... (say 10 or 20 points higher). Then when they come back if they have managed that praise them for that, and send them away to do the same again. If they have been unable to get it higher, when the session comes to an end send them away with the same task, to really try to get it to increase... by the third session usually they have begun to get rid of it themselves (because once they feel they have control in one direction, albeit making it worse; they can have control in the other direction and make it better). If it has continued to get worse you can use this to work hypnotically on the idea they have control because they made it worse so they can make it better. If it has stayed the same you can work on the idea of how anything that is constant and stays the same disappears from awareness (like glasses on the end of your nose etc) because this is true, if a stimulus is always present you habituate to it.

These are just some of the ideas I've used successfully, don't know if there is anything useful there for your case?

All the best

Dan

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Permalink Reply by Carmel Cathie on April 9, 2009 at 10:35pm

Wow, that is a great email Dan, thank you. The whole metaphor way of going about it and using a River etc is great and I haven't really focused on that at all. But I just read your cell biology article and now this and its a perspective of thinking that does need to be taken on now and incorporated into the mix. So thank you so much for bringing it more into my awareness.

Love, Life and Laughter
Namaste

Carmel

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Permalink Reply by Steve Lovold on November 28, 2009 at 11:40am

Thanks for this discussion topic .

I have a few clients with ezcema , and from what I've been able to gather is in each of their cases , I believe it stems from emotionally charged experiences in either early childhood / birth events, or past life karmic relations .
This has lead my to use Timeline therapy with these two, and to also integrate energy work with them as well.

~ Aloha
With both of these clients that had very poor relations with their families of origin, and both where women who where not well treat , and who describe themselves as outcasts of their families.

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Permalink Reply by CindyLou on December 1, 2009 at 7:57am

I would recommend Ultra height(tm) hypnosis for this issue. I, too, am interested in this, but have yet to have a client with ezcema to know for sure. UH gets the person to the higher realm where all that metaphysical stuff is-however they wish to experience it. And this level gives them the answers and even the ability to resolve the problem. Check out www.omnihypnosis.com as Gerald Kein has done the most work with this. Cool stuff!

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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on December 1, 2009 at 9:04am

Here is an interesting read on the emotionality of skin issues and it's free! http://grossbart.com/index.html

Dr. Grossbart, in his Timeline exercise, compares emotional influences in life to a beesting, which may not produce a fatal or even dangerous reaction in the first or subsequent incidence but can later prove devastating.

Best wishes,

Kelley

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on December 4, 2009 at 1:31am

Eczema is atopic in 90% of cases... and goes hand in hand with hayfever and asthma as being affected by a person's stress levels.

Just as these can be controlled by hypnosis, I don't feel it appropriate to say we can 'cure' any condition- merely to reduce symptom expression or experience to something more manageable (which may include complete reduction).

Ezcema is common at the back of the knees (I had to giggle at 'behind the legs'- to me, it suggested it was on the chair, not the person!) because it's very often where a person creases their legs, and therefore there's skin on skin; allowing chafing and maceration of the skin.

A good cream is a wonderful thing. Skin can become dry when washing, particularly in areas of hard water. Counteracting the hardness of the water with a gentle moisturiser has little to do with the mind.

I think in terms of complementary, not alternative therapies. But I guess this is where your categorisation of 'non-mainstream' comes in.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on December 4, 2009 at 5:26am

I agree with Henxy-

I don't think it is appropriate (or legal) to say we can 'cure' any condition.

In terms of "mainstream or non-mainstream -- The term CAM - (Complementary and Alternative) was invented by the NIH to indicate that the approach is a suitable adjunct to medical care even though the approach is currently not part of conventional medical practice at this point in time. CAM should not be confused with the term "Alternative"

Henxy said:

Eczema is atopic in 90% of cases... and goes hand in hand with hayfever and asthma as being affected by a person's stress levels.
Just as these can be controlled by hypnosis, I don't feel it appropriate to say we can 'cure' any condition- merely to reduce symptom expression or experience to something more manageable (which may include complete reduction). Ezcema is common at the back of the knees (I had to giggle at 'behind the legs'- to me, it suggested it was on the chair, not the person!) because it's very often where a person creases their legs, and therefore there's skin on skin; allowing chafing and maceration of the skin.

A good cream is a wonderful thing. Skin can become dry when washing, particularly in areas of hard water. Counteracting the hardness of the water with a gentle moisturiser has little to do with the mind.

I think in terms of complementary, not alternative therapies. But I guess this is where your categorisation of 'non-mainstream' comes in.

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