Requested not to use my CHt credential- I need advice

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Permalink Reply by James Malone on April 4, 2010 at 5:45am

Carol, if you know someone you feel comfortable speaking with in management why not just ask? I suspect it may be because the CHt is a professional certification rather than a state licensed title and a drug./alcohol treatment facility may have concerns related to their accreditation. Jim

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Taylor C.Ht on April 4, 2010 at 5:46am

I would ask them why they want it removed. I work in the corporate world and what they don't understand they are scared of. I had my CFO ask me to not hypnotize anyone at my work because they did not want any lawsuites. They asked if I had insurance and if I also had a reslease form that my clients signed. To avoid any conflict I informaed them that I would not work with anyone at my work. I also asked that they educate themselves as they did not understand hypnosis.

So, I would ask them what the issue is. Of course I think since you work for them they can dictate your signature and what it includes.

Hope it works out
Bruce Taylor

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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on April 4, 2010 at 5:55am

Hi Carol,

Is it possible that your employer views your CHT tag as a subtle advertisement to glean private business from the facility's patients? When you make your inquiry be sure to ask if there have been any complaints about you promoting your hypnosis for use outside of your work site; there may just be a misunderstanding.

Best Wishes,

Kelley

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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on April 4, 2010 at 6:08am

I think the answer may be a bit more complex and involve several factors, such as the legal environment in the state that you work and any other states your company plans to do business and where and how you got your CHT. I would do as James suggested and talk with management to see if you can satisfy your curiosity. In the end Bruce is entirely correct also when he states
"Of course I think since you work for them they can dictate your signature and what it includes"

The bottom line is in places like Texas .. The use of CHT by a lay (non degreeed psychologist) hypnotist creates legal vulnerabilities which your supervisors might not feel necessary to the proper performance of your job. I personally am a Certified Hypnotist and certified life coach for that very reason.

Hugh Cole
The Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet.

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Permalink Reply by Fable Goodman on April 4, 2010 at 7:52am

HI Carol,

I am wondering a few things, which may be relevant.

Do your employers/management understand that you use Hypnosis with your client group?
Is this part of what they have asked you to do?
What do you believe the benefits are of putting your credentias.

I note that you use quite a lot of letters, (and I don't know what they stand for).
The generally accepted rule of thumb, is to only mention the highest relevant qualification, rather than to list a whole string of letters.

Perhaps the management have this in mind?

Do the management actually know what CHT stands for?
If they know you are using hypnosis, and that is an agreed part of your brief, then the letters CHT are relevant to your work, rather than "personal components"
If hypnosis is not part of your agreed brief, then they may (perhaps rightly) judge that CHT are not relevant letters to use in work emails.

Sounds like some clarification is definately needed.


LOve and hugs,

Fable

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Permalink Reply by Graham Old on April 4, 2010 at 9:18am

Just take it off. It's only three letters.

You are much more than that.

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Permalink Reply by AJ on April 4, 2010 at 10:41am

At times, being politically correct can be annoying. You can, however, create a business entity of your own, if your employer does not allow CHt practitioners on their premises. Establishing a separate business entity for "hypnotherapy" that you control 100% will have its own unique advantages. Do the math with your CPA and find out how.

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Permalink Reply by Cheryl Westley on April 4, 2010 at 10:58am

Carol, I'll be curious to find out what you learn.... do keep us posted! :)

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on April 4, 2010 at 12:07pm

Hi Carol,

I recommend removing the CHt as requested and accept the fact that if you work for them - you can only practice what your employer deems is appropriate.

I might email back saying -- I have removed CHt. as requested, but I really didn't understand the request as it seems to me that CHt is part of my professional credentials. Can you shed some light on this?

And see what happens --

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Permalink Reply by Kathleen Hanover on April 4, 2010 at 6:55pm

Hi Carol,

"Your" work email address is actually the property of your employer, and as such, they can control what you do with it. (Likely all the emails you send from that address are their property as well--just something to keep in mind.)

Taking the letters out of your signature doesn't take the knowledge out of your head. For the most part, the only people who know what C.Ht. stands for are other C.Ht.s. Very few non-hypnos know or care.

In the big scheme of things, this isn't in the big scheme of things, except on an ego level.

So why not model for your clients the kind of reaction you'd hope to encourage in them, when confronted with a non-lethal blow ego bruising? How would you hope a client would respond?

Kathleen
Marketing and PR for People who Value Results

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Permalink Reply by Carol Sanders on April 5, 2010 at 1:31am

Kathleen, it is definately and ego blow... and I also know that I have worked very diligently to get the credential. I suppose its the principal of it all...take me as a whole package or not at all.....I can get very passive aggressive with the issue... and am trying to refrain from that...my clients would disagree with management....and I get a greater "one-up-man-ship".. (not the "Im better than you" type either)... when they know all of my certifications ...they hold me with higher regard and more trust...just as any one would when they see Phd...they dont ask if its a Phd in education....they assume it means youre a psychologist and then they want to talk with you and not talk to the "counselor".........I will keep reminding my self what Graham Old said,,," I AM much more than that "............Will they ask me to take down my degreee from the wall which states "criminal justice with forensic psychology emphasis"?...after all, I am a therapist and no longer a cop.....grrrr.....I will get past this and I do understand a few "reasons" mgmt may have...agan, its a bruise to the ego. I make money for them and I facilitate results with clients...THAT is what "should" matter most.,,,,,,,,,,,,,Thank you all for helpingh me to get out of my self and see possibilities etc....Carol


Kathleen Hanover said:

Hi Carol,

"Your" work email address is actually the property of your employer, and as such, they can control what you do with it. (Likely all the emails you send from that address are their property as well--just something to keep in mind.)

Taking the letters out of your signature doesn't take the knowledge out of your head. For the most part, the only people who know what C.Ht. stands for are other C.Ht.s. Very few non-hypnos know or care.

In the big scheme of things, this isn't in the big scheme of things, except on an ego level.

So why not model for your clients the kind of reaction you'd hope to encourage in them, when confronted with a non-lethal blow ego bruising? How would you hope a client would respond?

Kathleen
Marketing and PR for People who Value Results

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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig on April 5, 2010 at 10:10am

My first thought about this was what Fable mentioned--it's really more professional to list only one credential, usually the most applicable. For example, I have a master's degree in English. Though I know that years spent studying metaphor, language, and storytelling apply to my hypnosis, it's not truly a relevant hypnosis credential. Similarly, a number of the certified hypnotists here have Ph.D.s in other fields, such as mathematics or physics.

For that matter, hypnosis certifications carry no legal weight, and we all know they are no guarantee of competence. If I were you, I'd list my job title instead of all the alphabet soup.

BTW, I've been thinking about replacing "CH" on my business card with "DGH," which stands for "Darn Good Hypnotist." :-)

James

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