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40-yr-old female. Smoked 20 years.  8 year old son. Husband.  Embarrassed to smoke at work.  Gets home and first thing, has to have a cigarette.  Claims to hate cigs.  Sneaks out of the house evenings and weekends so her son doesn't see her smoke.  If she smoke before she goes to work, she takes second shower and changes clothes.  Doesn't want anyone to know of her habit at work.  About 3 packs a week.  Says she smokes because of stress and then feels terrible right after having a cigarette.  Smokes also when out and away from husband and son.  I have Melissa Roth's great book.  This woman is slightly atypical.  Any thoughts on how best to approach?  First session tomorrow night.  Many thanks for your advice.  Mike

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My suggestion would be to start by working with one particular situation in which she smokes.  If she smokes because she's stressed the nail down the specific instance this happens and work with resolving the stress.  Next she's given you a whole lot of leverage here.  She has to do a lot of work to be able to smoke and hide it from her family and coworkers and she must be pretty good at it.  That's an awful lot for one person to do on a daily basis, I wonder what things she's missing out on by doing this.  To be able to keep this habit, she must have some really great resources that just need a bit of a redirection.  

 

Clear up any possibility for secondary habits to emerge and test your results.  

 

That's one way I'd do it anyway.  Best of luck!

If you were treating her and Melissa Roth was looking over your shoulder, providing guidance, what would she say?
Thank you for your thoughts.  I do use Melissa's scripts but interested in any tweaks given these unique particulars with this particular client.  Love to hear more thoughts!  Mike

Jess Marion C.Ht. said:

My suggestion would be to start by working with one particular situation in which she smokes.  If she smokes because she's stressed the nail down the specific instance this happens and work with resolving the stress.  Next she's given you a whole lot of leverage here.  She has to do a lot of work to be able to smoke and hide it from her family and coworkers and she must be pretty good at it.  That's an awful lot for one person to do on a daily basis, I wonder what things she's missing out on by doing this.  To be able to keep this habit, she must have some really great resources that just need a bit of a redirection.  

 

Clear up any possibility for secondary habits to emerge and test your results.  

 

That's one way I'd do it anyway.  Best of luck!


Hi Michael,

 

Smoking is not the problem. If you center your work around around core issues of selfworth and realizing her authentic being your chances of success will increase greatly. Don't ask me how I know, unless you really want to know.

 

Good luck and go for it. She needs your help.

 

Also, there is much more creativity available to you than you are currently accessing. At the moment you are blocked by your own thinking. Let go of the controls, go deeper into trance when you work and it will come to you. Your much better than you know. 

 

Best,

Michael

www.MichaelRoland.com

Don't use someone's "ready" scripts. Put some more energy and find what works best step by step and then make the session highly individual.

Do not simply copy someone's stuff because you will be not effective.

I believe you will spend more time on looking for a ready script than if you simply created your own script.

Maybe it will be annoying what I say but- repeating written scripts for me is a piece of horse s.... not hypnosis.
If you want to be a good hypnotist- figure out what to do by yourself. Gather information from the client and then create your own script (speech) focusing on this very specific individual problem.

Michael Jackson Burney said:

Thank you for your thoughts.  I do use Melissa's scripts but interested in any tweaks given these unique particulars with this particular client.  Love to hear more thoughts!  Mike

Jess Marion C.Ht. said:

My suggestion would be to start by working with one particular situation in which she smokes.  If she smokes because she's stressed the nail down the specific instance this happens and work with resolving the stress.  Next she's given you a whole lot of leverage here.  She has to do a lot of work to be able to smoke and hide it from her family and coworkers and she must be pretty good at it.  That's an awful lot for one person to do on a daily basis, I wonder what things she's missing out on by doing this.  To be able to keep this habit, she must have some really great resources that just need a bit of a redirection.  

 

Clear up any possibility for secondary habits to emerge and test your results.  

 

That's one way I'd do it anyway.  Best of luck!

Hi Mike,

 

Every client is atypical; every client is unique - Just like every other client-

I recommend utilizing your intake/pre-talk to ask the client what she thinks the most effective and satisfying way to break free and pay very close attention to what she says -- This is the best raw materials for helping her.
With that in mind, I agree with Ian -- Get out of the habit of looking for
other people’s scripts and into the habit of inventing your own in real time- (I
think that is what Michael R. is recommending?)

 

Hint: If you give your clients your undivided attention and just go with the flow, the flow will set you free... Example, before working with a client, I go into a resource state (happy heart, peaceful mind, playful spirit)
and simply focus my attention on my client- No thinking or doing - just being
with, breathing with and listening to my client...  The rest is automatic-- I really don't think about what I am
doing or saying - It's as if, my client and I tap into a creative flow that
directs our session... This creative flow is only available in the moment.

 

Go for it!

 

Michael
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Great advice.  I always write custom scripts for clients but I have been using Melissa's system as a guide as she has had very good success with her series of scripts.  You guys are always so helpful and I'm thankful for your input!!

Michael Ellner said:

Hi Mike,

 

Every client is atypical; every client is unique - Just like every other client-

I recommend utilizing your intake/pre-talk to ask the client what she thinks the most effective and satisfying way to break free and pay very close attention to what she says -- This is the best raw materials for helping her.
With that in mind, I agree with Ian -- Get out of the habit of looking for
other people’s scripts and into the habit of inventing your own in real time- (I
think that is what Michael R. is recommending?)

 

Hint: If you give your clients your undivided attention and just go with the flow, the flow will set you free... Example, before working with a client, I go into a resource state (happy heart, peaceful mind, playful spirit)
and simply focus my attention on my client- No thinking or doing - just being
with, breathing with and listening to my client...  The rest is automatic-- I really don't think about what I am
doing or saying - It's as if, my client and I tap into a creative flow that
directs our session... This creative flow is only available in the moment.

 

Go for it!

 

Michael
E

Michael,

There are several different aspects of the smoking behavior that have to be addressed/modified for different types of people to be able to quit. I do have my stop smoking protocol available on my website. Many on here have found it to have value. While it can be used as a script, I wrote it to present the different aspects that need to be covered (along with the how and why part of course) for someone who wants to be a non-smoker, and how to do that.

 

John

I agree with Michael R.  I think this is more about self worth and self actualization.  It is almost like there is a battle between the self she wants to be/should be and the self that continues to experience an unmet need; thus the need for the placebo of the cigarette.

I would work with her on:  self esteem,  then self exploration by way of her "inner advisor", and then move on by having her examine the reasons she started smoking...what were her needs, her feelings then?  Who was the person she saw herself as then?  Is she that person now?  Does she have those feelings/needs now?  If so, have her explore the ways that the mature and experienced version of herself can address this.  Then I would have her disconnect associations she has with smoking.

Let me know how things work out with her......

Sherell,  Good insight.  Greatly appreciate your feedback!  Mike

Sherell Hebert, LPC, C.Ht said:

I agree with Michael R.  I think this is more about self worth and self actualization.  It is almost like there is a battle between the self she wants to be/should be and the self that continues to experience an unmet need; thus the need for the placebo of the cigarette.

I would work with her on:  self esteem,  then self exploration by way of her "inner advisor", and then move on by having her examine the reasons she started smoking...what were her needs, her feelings then?  Who was the person she saw herself as then?  Is she that person now?  Does she have those feelings/needs now?  If so, have her explore the ways that the mature and experienced version of herself can address this.  Then I would have her disconnect associations she has with smoking.

Let me know how things work out with her......

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