Smoke Cessation

I have been working with smoke cessation clients very successfully for 10 years and get doctor referrals with regularity due to my clients success rate. I have run across my toughest client in those 10 years. i am writing this to gather some new ideas and techniques from the vast source of educated individuals that I know are here on Hypnothoughts. My "Kick Your Butts Forever" smoke cessation program utilizes recorded CD or MP3 copies of the actual hypnosis sessions. Psycho-visual video which incorporates color therapy and subliminal messaging. Reinforcement over the period of at least one month.Behavior modification, regression, as well as talk and cognitive techniques. He is very emotional about wanting to quit and I know from working with him that he truly wants to and it is not just his wife (and the upcoming birth of his first baby) that is sparking this. He has tried everything before seeking hypnosis but is a very open and spiritual man. I am going to be incorporating some Reiki techniques because I have been working with him for a month and a half in Florida and I have just moved to Florida. He is very open to doing more work long distance and I have worked with many clients long distance in the past, since I put a lot of my work into creating rich custom audios that also incorporate hypnotic tonals and subliminal messaging. He has an addictive personality but was able to let go of his alcohol and cocaine addictions in the past. I know that he is subconsciously holding on to his last match or vice and would be very appreciative of any new ideas that may be of help with this individual. He has quit for days at a time with my program but he has allowed his withdrawal symptoms to be increasingly uncomfortable. His mind gets confused, he can't think straight and he owns his own brokerage business, and he even begins dropping things and his anger completely consumes him. I also quit smoking with Hypnosis and have a good personal understanding although my withdrawals were mild and non existent after my second session. Many of my clients have had absolutely none and been amazed. I want to assist this individual to escape his misery. SOS!

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on June 14, 2011 at 6:05pm

You might want to check out this group:

http://www.hypnothoughts.com/group/fansofjohncleesattelsstopsmoking...

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Permalink Reply by Julia Mueller on June 14, 2011 at 7:04pm

Thank you John!

John Cleesattel said:

You might want to check out this group:
http://www.hypnothoughts.com/group/fansofjohncleesattelsstopsmoking...

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Permalink Reply by bob burns on June 15, 2011 at 3:22am

Hi Julia,

In situations such as these I would suggest that you consider incorporating the individuals religious beliefs (I am not religious by the way).

Not too long ago, we're told that whole Christian families would have a sing-song whilst being circled and devoured by lions at The Colloseum.

If that's a fact, and I will happily go along with that, then surely I can get 'em off the fags (which is a highly hetero-sexual cigarette).

Regards,

Bob

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Permalink Reply by Graham Old on June 15, 2011 at 3:43am

One of the first things to do is help him ditch the silly idea of addictive personalities. Personalities do not have addictions; people do. And people live in all kinds of different psycho-social environments, so I don't see that idea of an 'addictive personality' as helpful in any way.

Have you tried a more provocative approach? Whenever I have clients who are very very adamant about how much they really want to quit, I tend to go down the provocative route. After all, it's just nonsense. If they wanted to quit that much, they just would!

Or use John's system.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on June 15, 2011 at 4:19am

Hi Julia-

I suggest reframing the situation into one of HOT states and COOL states -- When in cool states your client is clear that he wants to be smoke free and when he is in hot states - your client is overwhelmed by his cravings... Start by giving him a reason to believe that YOU are going to be able to help HIM stop smoking quickly and easily using the hypnotic technique that you will be using... Tell him it is going to work because he will have a post hypnotic signal that he can use so that any cravings automatically become manageable or disappear the moment he moves back into COOL states-- It is VERY COOL to be smoke -free!

Who loves ya?

Michael E. @ http://www.nycanxietyhypnosis.com

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Permalink Reply by Jackie Spencer on June 15, 2011 at 6:22am

Michael...that's very cool!

Who's awesome?

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Permalink Reply by Melina Johnson on June 15, 2011 at 9:10am

Does anyone still uses aversion therapy?

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on June 15, 2011 at 10:15am

I imagine there are some still out there that use it because a client will request it, but mostly its probably just an add on to what they already do.

What was found out was that smokers do not smoke because of how it tastes, its just that to a smoker, some brands taste less bad than others. After all, it is still just smoke they are tasting.

But you could give a smoker that jonesing for a cigarette, a cigarette that literally tasted like dog crap, and they would complain the whole time....while they smoked the entire thing.

Which is why aversion therapy doesn't work for most smokers.

John

Melina Johnson said:

Does anyone still uses aversion therapy?

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Permalink Reply by bob burns on June 15, 2011 at 11:07am

I still say covering him in robes and having lions circling him should do it.

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Permalink Reply by Ricky Strode on June 15, 2011 at 12:03pm

I cannot agree more Graham. I would have to see what you do to be able to help you, but it is possible if you are in Florida. Remember, it is not about the amount of change, but just the right amount of change, it is not always what you do, but how you do it and sometimes timing can be all the difference in the world. It is a lot like music, it is not about how many notes, but what you do with each one and how it all comes together to create something truly beautiful.

Graham Old said:

One of the first things to do is help him ditch the silly idea of addictive personalities. Personalities do not have addictions; people do. And people live in all kinds of different psycho-social environments, so I don't see that idea of an 'addictive personality' as helpful in any way.

Have you tried a more provocative approach? Whenever I have clients who are very very adamant about how much they really want to quit, I tend to go down the provocative route. After all, it's just nonsense. If they wanted to quit that much, they just would!

Or use John's system.

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Permalink Reply by Julia Mueller on June 15, 2011 at 1:22pm

Correction: I just saw that I said Florida twice. I have moved from Florida to Sedona. Sorry. I had worked with this individual in Florida. Regardless, he is now back in PA so we are working long distance regardless which I have done with frequency.
Michael, thank you for your "cool" and "hot state" reply. I like that.That is interesting verbiage. I totally came from of place of being able to help him instantly, a month and a half ago. I come from a place of confidence with my program because I am the "go to" hypnotist for smoke cessation and now alcoholism (due to Dr. referrals in my area). My program has always worked before this, hence the call for help. PS...Who loves you too ! :-)
I also agree with the fact that personalities do not have addictions (those were his words), people do (those were my words back to him). I do understand that we cannot help everyone (darn it) but I am feeling passionate about this, also because it is such a challenge I am sure.
My "music, notes and timing" have come together very successfully in the past. I really love the way you stated that Ricky. I am also a musician ;-)
What was meant by the provocative approach?
I do not know what John's system is made up of. Do you have to purchase it to find out?
As I said, my system is a very comprehensive and successful system...until now. I truly appreciate the activity that has been taking place with regards to my situation. (

Ricky Strode said:

I cannot agree more Graham. I would have to see what you do to be able to help you, but it is possible if you are in Florida. Remember, it is not about the amount of change, but just the right amount of change, it is not always what you do, but how you do it and sometimes timing can be all the difference in the world. It is a lot like music, it is not about how many notes, but what you do with each one and how it all comes together to create something truly beautiful.

Graham Old said:
One of the first things to do is help him ditch the silly idea of addictive personalities. Personalities do not have addictions; people do. And people live in all kinds of different psycho-social environments, so I don't see that idea of an 'addictive personality' as helpful in any way.

Have you tried a more provocative approach? Whenever I have clients who are very very adamant about how much they really want to quit, I tend to go down the provocative route. After all, it's just nonsense. If they wanted to quit that much, they just would!

Or use John's system.

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Permalink Reply by Ricky Strode on June 15, 2011 at 1:36pm

We can help anyone if we adjust ourselves and what we do. If you know what you are doing and it is not doing the job, then I would start by doing everything you have not done yet. It is kind of hard to really give really good advice without specifics. For instance, how did they respond to the various things you did? It does not mean what you did, did not work, but maybe it might have to be more intense or otherwise. The cold and hot button thing is pretty good for a lot of things.