Swaying the clients head

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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on January 9, 2010 at 8:17pm

Its a disorientation thing to be sure, but there is lots more going on Carol. The neck muscle is the hardest muscle to relax. Moving the head gives a good subtle way to test the neck muscle. it also is a good indicator of the degree to which the trance partner is acquieseing to what you want to do. Finally if you are fluent in energy work... It is a very gentle way to lower the trance partners energy level,

Hugh Cole
The Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet

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Permalink Reply by Carol Sanders on January 9, 2010 at 8:26pm

Hugh,, I dont do energy work per say but, am learning/using EFt with clients as well. I appreciate your response and knowledge about this issue. Thank You.

Hugh Cole said:

Its a disorientation thing to be sure, but there is lots more going on Carol. The neck muscle is the hardest muscle to relax. Moving the head gives a good subtle way to test the neck muscle. it also is a good indicator of the degree to which the trance partner is acquieseing to what you want to do. Finally if you are fluent in energy work... It is a very gentle way to lower the trance partners energy level,

Hugh Cole
The Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet

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Permalink Reply by Carol Sanders on January 9, 2010 at 8:27pm

Thank you Ian, I had worried about touching clients in such a manner, of course I would ask first before I attempted to do such any way. Thank You for your knowledge.

Ian Jay said:

I guess it adds to the disorientation (vestibular), easing the trance process? Also, many people respond well to the reassuring touch of a carer.

Ian

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on January 10, 2010 at 6:45am

Hi,

We sway our clients heads because we can! - Carol =^..^=

On a serious note, I agree with Hugh and Ian -

I wonder if Hugh and Ian would agree that many hypnotists are swaying a clients head or shoulders simply because that's what they were taught to do without really thinking about it or understanding why they are doing it.

We can only wonder about how many people are watching and learning many different hypnotic inductions and techniques without understanding what they are watching and learning - right now--

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Permalink Reply by Bruce Taylor C.Ht on January 10, 2010 at 6:51am

I as Hugh said, sway the head to see how relaxed the neck muscles are. This is what I was taught. As Hugh said the neck muscles are the last to relax and the first to tense. I believe that is the case. Hugh, you da bomb.

Bruce Taylor

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Permalink Reply by Connor Wyatt on January 10, 2010 at 9:16am

Nice indirect suggestion ;)

Michael Ellner said:

We can only wonder about how many people are watching and learning many different hypnotic inductions and techniques without understanding what they are watching and learning - right now--

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Permalink Reply by Carol Sanders on January 10, 2010 at 11:04am

Im the "why" kind of person. I will do just about anything asked, if I know why it is to be done, its purpose etc...and Im relentless in my search if the "why" does not fit my understanding. You all are great, I love this website and participants so much !
Carol

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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on January 10, 2010 at 12:55pm

Imitation, Micheal, is the most sincere form of flattery. But I am afraid that as you observed most people learn that way and just stop there. They do it like Micheal... Do it Like John Cerbone.,,Do it like they saw on youtube without a true understanding of the value of hypnotic operators and processes involved. They read scripts word for word without thought of incorporating special considerations and fresh ideas for the client. There is a differance in learning Hypnosis and being a Hypnotist, That is why a forum like Hypnothoughts is so great because we can all shere our knowledge with the common goal of making this a better profession. One of the most profound things I have ever learned is to keep my beginer's mind. To question, experiment and welcome failure as earnestly as I celebrate success. Everything is a gateway to new learnings. Everything is a challange to my limiting beliefs.

Hugh Cole
The Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on January 10, 2010 at 3:45pm

I'll buy the disorienting effect of head swaying. Neck muscle relaxation?...a little tougher to swallow considering that relaxation is not required for trance, but then again, neither is touching the subject at all.

I guess it just boils down to using the technique you are most comfortable with and leaving it at that.

my two cents
John

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Permalink Reply by Carol Sanders on January 10, 2010 at 3:46pm

I would say efficient more than competent.. I think they certifications show competency..
(o:
Carol

Ian Jay said:

Mike raises an interesting point:

"I wonder if Hugh and Ian would agree that many hypnotists are swaying a clients head or shoulders simply because that's what they were taught to do without really thinking about it or understanding why they are doing it."

I believe that there are hypnotists and NLP'ers who fail to question many things they are taught. Perhaps the pressure of time or the dominance of the instructor is to blame? The desire to conform keeps many in the classroom silent, too.

The newly qualified therapist is perhaps like the newly qualified driver? They have both demonstrated enough to get them past the test, but require a lot of practice to become competent.

Ian

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on January 10, 2010 at 3:55pm

Hi John,

I totally agree that relaxation is not necessary for induction/entrancement, but in my experience respectful contact as in gently swaiying a client can enhance the trance and provide valuable feed back to me.

Warmest regards,

Michael E.



John Cleesattel said:

I'll buy the disorienting effect of head swaying. Neck muscle relaxation?...a little tougher to swallow considering that relaxation is not required for trance, but then again, neither is touching the subject at all.

I guess it just boils down to using the technique you are most comfortable with and leaving it at that.

my two cents
John

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Permalink Reply by Carol Sanders on January 10, 2010 at 4:12pm

Probably good for also developing rapport, trust and expectation I would think.

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