Tattoo fear and pain relief...what to charge for that?

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Permalink Reply by Susan French on March 15, 2010 at 7:37am

hmmmm....it's a great idea as is offering something similar for people having lasik surgery w/o general (hundreds cheaper, my daughter did it), and a variety of cosmetic tattooing.

I hadn't really figured it out. My other daughter was working for a cosmetic surgery office that did laser facial stuff and tatooing.

I wonder if it would be worth it to these guys to have one regular session at a regular fee and then use cd's to reinforce? And then possibly a 30 min. reinforcement for half price for subsequent sessions. Most of these things aren't done in one session. From what I've heard, laser and tattoo removal is damned painful. Brrrrr.

I could have gotten it for free while my daughter was training (she's an RN) but I heard that it was bone-crunchingly painful and decided to pass.


There's also the possibility of giving a group session with cd's for sale and shorter, less expensive reinforcement sessions. I've thought of that but haven't done it yet.

I have a script I wrote for the cosmetic laser thing. Let me know if you want it.

Susan

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on March 15, 2010 at 7:46am

The same might be said of traffic accidents...LOL I was asked if I would do it and I need to know how much to charge.

Evidently not all are that hard core...when trying to buy being cool.


Adrian Tannock said:

Fear & pain is the point of having a tattoo!

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Permalink Reply by Cheryl Westley on March 15, 2010 at 8:20am

I've had cosmetic tattooing. (I went with a lightly applied 'natural' look. -- Oh, the GLORY of eyeliner that never runs or smudges!!!!!)

They DO use topical anesthetic during cosmetic tattooing (that I didn't receive with regular tattooing). The only time that cosmetic tattooing really hurt (me) was the first pass of the needle over the lips (lip-liner) to break the skin -- then the topical could penetrate and the pain subsided. Yes, it did sting like a SOB. ...The eyeliner being applied just felt like an itch; it wasn't terrible.

But then, I'm not a fearful person and can 'accept' pain that I understand. I distinguish between pain that is beneficial (like getting a flu shot and childbirth) and pain that is not beneficial (accidental injuries and undiagnosed symptoms). I'm not 'into' pain, I just know the difference between good pain and bad pain.

Perhaps the concept of 'beneficial pain' can lend itself to a script?? As for what to charge, I have no idea! I thought my experience might count for something though.

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Permalink Reply by Calvin - The Hypnotist on March 15, 2010 at 9:26am

if he wants your service id charge by the day, ive been thinking of doing the same thing in the uk as there is alot of interest and people will pay for this service, be it a client or tattooist. im thinking of charging £100 a day just to get going. the tattosist will make his money by added a few coins to the subjects fee anyway...lol

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Permalink Reply by Michael Zappellini on March 15, 2010 at 9:27am

Hi John and everyone,
I don't know what is your regular fee, but if you think you can eliminate pain and fear pretty fast I think maybe you can go with a $50 bucks fee just to grab some client.

My 2 cents

Cheers

John Cleesattel said:

The same might be said of traffic accidents...LOL I was asked if I would do it and I need to know how much to charge.
Evidently not all are that hard core...when trying to buy being cool.

Adrian Tannock said:

Fear & pain is the point of having a tattoo!

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Permalink Reply by kirby vonshouse on March 15, 2010 at 11:05am

if they can afford full price for a tat, they can afford yours too. are you charging him or client ? and remember this could be on going and word of mouth so consider " your special discount for..." i have done these and they are easy, best to zonk them, stop time (as getting a tat is time consuming and BORING ! ) alert to take direction from artist, wake when he ,she gives "signal" no pain going or coming .generally speaking on price 50 is VERY resonable min. depends also on size,time,return trip must all be figgured in. butterfly on boob ? 50. eagle on back fighting dragon ? figure afore mentioned with artist input.somtimes you can teach glove anestesia . but you need to size that up for yourself. you dont want to hang around but be on call and immediately available for whatever.
this is a good bread and butter gig for you..update !!! see susan french comment on her cd suggestion !!good idea susan !

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Permalink Reply by Iacobet Cosmin on March 15, 2010 at 11:37am

True, I have tattoo's and pain is one of the highs of having a tatto made.When someone asks me if it hurts cus they want one I always tell them to think again if they want something wich will last for a lifetime on their skin but want it with no cost whatsoever..if it would be important then pain would be just..well, just pain, not suffering (btw that's how I manage pain, if it's harmless I just let it flow, it can't last, it comes and goes).
On the other hand, nice ideea for getting some bucks, no need to have people think twice if they really want the tattoo if they aren't paying you for this, just give'em anesthesia and done..

Adrian Tannock said:

Fear & pain is the point of having a tattoo!

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Permalink Reply by John Cleesattel on March 15, 2010 at 12:25pm

Umm.. because some of us like to eat?

Ian Jay said:

Give me his email, and I will tell him how do it for free.

Why does money always appear in the equation?

Ian

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Permalink Reply by kirby vonshouse on March 15, 2010 at 10:05pm

because that was the question .

John Cleesattel said:

Umm.. because some of us like to eat?

Ian Jay said:

Give me his email, and I will tell him how do it for free.

Why does money always appear in the equation?

Ian

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on March 16, 2010 at 1:20am

Actually, the question was 'what is a reasonable fee?'.
IJ might just think that charging nothing is a reasonable fee...

kirby vonshouse said:

because that was the question .

John Cleesattel said:

Umm.. because some of us like to eat?

Ian Jay said:

Give me his email, and I will tell him how do it for free.

Why does money always appear in the equation?

Ian

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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig on March 16, 2010 at 7:03am

You might also include some suggestions for proper aftercare and fast healing.

And while some folks do believe that getting a tat is about proving that you can endure pain, I bet most artists would be happy to work with a hypnotist if it means more clients.

As an aside, when I was getting my tat, at one point one of the apprentice artists came over and looked at the work. She said, "Wow, that looks great. And you're already applying the red," to which my tattoo artist replied, "Nah, that's blood . . ." I really wish I had known hypnosis back then, because it did hurt like a scalpel made of fire ants.

James H

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Permalink Reply by Hugh Cole on March 16, 2010 at 8:24am

Actually Thai culture aligns very well with having large manly tattoos on your bodies. They imbue some of them with mystical protective powers. (protection from knives for instance) Some temples put religious tattoos on thier followers for a small donation of course. Some of the most well known Tattoo artists in the World have thier shops in Thailand (Some because they tattooed Angelina Jolie ... The others because they are good). Jimmy Wong of course comes to mind. The man is a living legend and if you have a Thai friend negotiate for you ,,, rather inexpensive,

Hugh Cole
The untattooed Pretty Goodest Hypnotist on the Planet

Adrian Tannock said:

Sure:

The colour is still good even after 9 years. Directly after having it, I went to live in Thailand for a spell: it went down very well... ;-)

I know tattoos are not everyone's cup of tea, and often people are surprised by mine. But like I say, to me it was a fine way commemorating what was a strange year: love, loss, and awakening.

Cheers,

Adrian

Ian Jay said:

Picture?
Adrian Tannock said:

Heh heh... Well I figure it's a fair comment.

In a way I'm being tongue in cheek, however that said I got a big tattoo on my arm (classic Chinese style) that hurt like f@£& in the year my dad died. The ritual, the scarification, was a rite of passage thing perhaps. It's a year and a date I won't forget! Cheers, Adrian

Ian Jay said:

Fair comment. But, you missed the sado-masochist component, or not?
"There is nothing as ephemeral as fashion" No tats, no piercing, no hang-ups, etc, : Ian Adrian Tannock said:

Fear & pain is the point of having a tattoo!

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