The REALLY good subject - Can You Pick Him/Her Out?

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Permalink Reply by Leshem Yosef on November 16, 2009 at 5:04am

That's must be very high quality knowledge to know
I have no new info more then already in the books and DVDs
But I can't wait to know about it
From all the hypnogurus
Yosef

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Permalink Reply by Robert Shanks on November 16, 2009 at 6:59am

Simple - TEST!

Every stage hypnotist does tests to see who will go well, and therapists who know what they're about will also perform tests. For the therapist though, they will use the results to decide what to do, not who to select.

If I find a somnambulist when doing therapy, I would not be helping them OR me if I went through a progressive relaxation inductions. I would simply decide on a fast induction and hypnotize them in seconds. In fact, more often than not, I will simply say "sleep" and that works. If the person is NOT a somnambulist, then I would "train" them to be able to get to the level of hypnosis I use.

I also think the number is higher than 3-5%. But maybe that's just my experience

Robert

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Permalink Reply by Reg Blackwood - The Quicknotist on November 16, 2009 at 10:18am

If only there was a reliable method other than actually beginning the process, but I do notice you say "before the induction" so maybe you are talking about during what most Hypnotists class as "testing." (A bit of waking Hypnosis to get us started!)

Pre-induction, I'm looking for people who follow my directions exactly, and those who pick up on even the subtleties of every suggestion. If I say "and as X happens you also Y" I make Y something as visual as X and look for great responses to both X AND Y.

Frankly, I'm looking for those who show signs of Hypnosis long before others.

In short, if you look at it from that perspective then they're easy to spot, because you really don't have to DO very much at all!

God bless them and send me MORE!

Reg
http://quicknotist.com/

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Permalink Reply by Sean Michael Andrews on November 22, 2009 at 12:32pm

I agree, Reg. God bless them! They are so amazing and such a joy to work with. In truth, I can not pick them out until I test or hypnotize them. Sometimes they identify themselves, like the woman I met who said she was hypnotized once before at a show. I asked her how she liked being in the show and she said, "I wasn't. I was in the audience!" Bingo!

The last extreme somnambulist I met told me that someone tried to hypnotize her years ago, but it didn't work, probably because she wasn't very "susceptible" She was one of the best candidates I've encountered in months. She went almost immediately to Arons 6.

So does anyone think he/she can pick them out before testing/inducing?

Sean Michael Andrews
www.Worldsfastesthypnotist.com

Reg Blackwood - The Quicknotist said:

If only there was a reliable method other than actually beginning the process, but I do notice you say "before the induction" so maybe you are talking about during what most Hypnotists class as "testing." (A bit of waking Hypnosis to get us started!)

Pre-induction, I'm looking for people who follow my directions exactly, and those who pick up on even the subtleties of every suggestion. If I say "and as X happens you also Y" I make Y something as visual as X and look for great responses to both X AND Y.

Frankly, I'm looking for those who show signs of Hypnosis long before others.

In short, if you look at it from that perspective then they're easy to spot, because you really don't have to DO very much at all!

God bless them and send me MORE!

Reg
http://quicknotist.com/

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Permalink Reply by Yong Peng on December 23, 2009 at 3:10am

So, do you mean there is no such thing as "impromptu hypnotize any people" ?

But I have seen many street hypnosises on youtube, and can't find how did they pick out the candidates,like Mayajid's "Hypno-sculpture"(three monkeys,Romeo&Juliet).Just feel like they were done randomly one by one.

sorry for my English skills, and I'm begginer. :P

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Permalink Reply by Sean Michael Andrews on December 25, 2009 at 3:34pm

Yes, of course there is "impomptu hypnotize any people." Just about anybody can be hypnotized, but I always like to go for the best candidates first. They are more fun, they go deeper and you can go for more entertaining skits quicker!

Win's (Maya Jid) "Three Monkeys" was outstanding, but did you notice how after doing his first two monkeys, he skipped a lady to work on the next person? Just by looking at her, he decided that she would not be as good a candidate as the next person, so he skipped her. Also, a good stage hypnotist will always dismiss people whom he judges to be poor candidates. This is entertainment and we need to use the best hypotic candidates.

Sean Michael Andrews
www.WorldsFastestHypnotist.com

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Permalink Reply by Craig Homonnay on December 26, 2009 at 2:30am

I love it when someone in a group says "you could never hypnotise me "...my response is always " no probably not ...but I am sure that there is someone here that could go very deep ....if they just looked up into that light " then i look for the responders and go from there :-)

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Permalink Reply by Sean Michael Andrews on December 26, 2009 at 11:26am

Craig:
I really like that! What a nice, covert suggestibility test! One of the things I look for is eye roll when the subject is talking. Have you ever noticed how some people's eyes are so expressive and when they look up, the eyes literally roll up in their head? It's sort of a covert Spiegel Eye Roll Test that I wrote about in my last newsletter.

Sean Michael Andrews
www.WorldsFastestHypnotist.com

Craig Homonnay said:

I love it when someone in a group says "you could never hypnotise me "...my response is always " no probably not ...but I am sure that there is someone here that could go very deep ....if they just looked up into that light " then i look for the responders and go from there :-)

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Permalink Reply by Yong Peng on December 26, 2009 at 8:38pm

Thanks a lot, now I've got it.When taking a street hypnosis,I should pick out the best candidate which already gives a perfect feedback on me,and "The REALLY good subject" means there should be an UNCONSCIOUS link between the subject and me.

A loudspeaker can't hypnotize a recorder.(of course neither a desk,a bowl.)No matter how the subject acts or follows every script I give ,even looks like a digital copy, it is worth nothing if there is no REAL unconscious response.

The worst thing is the subject is totally insensible to the hypnotist.More often than not we are just on the different channel,get mismatch with each other.For beginners like me,we probably pay too much attention to the techniques,scripts,steps, even have noticed confidence.Then finally become a Master Loudspeaker.Better or closer,but still far.

So, now I consider that covert suggestibility test can be very variable,maybe say something like Craig does, maybe a joke ,a shock,intimidating actions,expressions...,and watch carefully how they response.We send data all the way down ,then never forget to collect ,recognize and utilize the results.

Am I get closer to the hidden treasure?




Sean Michael Andrews C.H. C.I. - WorldsFastestHypnotist.com said:

Yes, of course there is "impomptu hypnotize any people." Just about anybody can be hypnotized, but I always like to go for the best candidates first. They are more fun, they go deeper and you can go for more entertaining skits quicker!

Win's (Maya Jid) "Three Monkeys" was outstanding, but did you notice how after doing his first two monkeys, he skipped a lady to work on the next person? Just by looking at her, he decided that she would not be as good a candidate as the next person, so he skipped her. Also, a good stage hypnotist will always dismiss people whom he judges to be poor candidates. This is entertainment and we need to use the best hypotic candidates.

Sean Michael Andrews
www.WorldsFastestHypnotist.com

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Permalink Reply by Sean Michael Andrews on December 27, 2009 at 7:03am

One thing that I think is really important is to be willing to fail. When I started doing street hypnosis, I would sometimes fail. I remember one evening years ago when I failed with about 40% of the people I tried to hypnotize. What an awful night!

But I didn't give up. I thought about what I had done wrong. I had tried to hypnotize people who did not want to be hypnotized. I worked with people who treated the hypnosis as some sort of joke. I worked with a guy who was drunk. I tried to go for hypnotic phenomena that required greater depth than I had. I worked with a girl whose boyfriend forced her to volunteer. There are many mistakes and I have made them all, but I learned from them.

I still make mistakes, but not that often so now I very rarely fail. You can get there too. This is not magic, you just have to practice and be willing to fail. Just get out there and have fun!

Sean Michael Andrews
www.WorldsFastestHypnotist.com

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Permalink Reply by James Hazlerig on December 27, 2009 at 8:05am

Your story is a great example of the NLP supposition that there is no failure, only feedback.

It also illustrates the sage words of "The Gambler":

You gotta know when to hold 'em,
Know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away,
Know when to run . . .


Sean Michael Andrews C.H. C.I. - WorldsFastestHypnotist.com said:

One thing that I think is really important is to be willing to fail. When I started doing street hypnosis, I would sometimes fail. I remember one evening years ago when I failed with about 40% of the people I tried to hypnotize. What an awful night!

But I didn't give up. I thought about what I had done wrong. I had tried to hypnotize people who did not want to be hypnotized. I worked with people who treated the hypnosis as some sort of joke. I worked with a guy who was drunk. I tried to go for hypnotic phenomena that required greater depth than I had. I worked with a girl whose boyfriend forced her to volunteer. There are many mistakes and I have made them all, but I learned from them.

I still make mistakes, but not that often so now I very rarely fail. You can get there too. This is not magic, you just have to practice and be willing to fail. Just get out there and have fun!

Sean Michael Andrews
www.WorldsFastestHypnotist.com

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on December 27, 2009 at 12:14pm

The best subjects are those that want to be hypnotized and volunteer. Beyond that I can rarely predict outcomes and who will be "better" than the others. I try to have fun with them all, that usually works best for me. If I start trying to guess who will be best and force outcomes it never works. I just go with the flow.

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