This is why hypnotherapists should be concerned.

Hypnotist Tom Silver made a good point on his Facebook page. Here it is: This is why hypnotists and hypnotherapists should be concerned. Hypnosis degrees and certifications are binging sold without any care or concern for academic training. Hypnotherapy degrees without proper education and training may make hypnosis illegal soon to the unlicensed therapist! Look at the document now being sold on Ebay.

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on November 7, 2011 at 2:23pm

There is no baby or bathwater...

1.) Not one single state can afford another regulatory board, and is not going to make it a budget priority.

2.) Hypnosis is IMPOSSIBLE to regulate. You would have to regulate coaches, parents, teachers, ministers, TV/radio, etc. It just is unregulatable, which is why NO state has such regulation. Think about it. 50 states. NOT ONE stops the unlicensed hypnotist from practicing. If this were even a real issue at least ONE state would have done it. Sure there are some states with registration rules, other with requirements for informed consent, others that restrict certain terms, but not even one little-itty-bitty state stops it. Why? It can't be done. It is like putting a camel through the eye of a needle...

Kelley Woods said:

It seems that HypnoThoughts is the perfect place to house a "for private members" group to address this concern of impending changes (don't kid yourselves, change will happen!). How about it, James? I, like you, am one of the babes who could potentially fly with the bathwater...

A smart person plans for and creates their own future.

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on November 7, 2011 at 2:24pm

Here is the future of hypnotherapy:

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Permalink Reply by Stephanie Conkle on November 7, 2011 at 2:31pm

Agreed!

Kelley Woods said:

It seems that HypnoThoughts is the perfect place to house a "for private members" group to address this concern of impending changes (don't kid yourselves, change will happen!). How about it, James? I, like you, am one of the babes who could potentially fly with the bathwater...

A smart person plans for and creates their own future.

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Permalink Reply by Kelley Woods on November 7, 2011 at 2:38pm

You are right, Richard...our future IS bright! I just want to make sure I keep shining. If we had a central place to air our concerns and be reassured by pros like you, it might help!

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Permalink Reply by Michael Ellner on November 7, 2011 at 4:06pm

@ Richard N.

There is more than one way to make a practice obsolete - Notice-- the systematic ways hypnosis is being replaced by mindfulness, meditation and imagery in the medical media...

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Permalink Reply by Brochu on November 7, 2011 at 4:13pm

Richard:

From your lips to God's ear!

Why don’t you list your seven points so that everyone can read your position in less than a minute rather than 21 minutes..

Yours in Health,

John Brochu

BrochuHypnosisCenter.com

Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com said:

Here is the future of hypnotherapy:

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on November 7, 2011 at 4:20pm

JOhn- Becasue I suck at typing.... :)

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Permalink Reply by Marc Whipple on November 14, 2011 at 6:42pm

Kathleen Hanover said:

I find it interesting how on the one hand, hypnosis is so incredibly powerful that it can lower your blood pressure, boost your immune response, reduce bleeding during surgery, relieve IBS, cure you of phobias, relieve horrible pain, relieve insomnia, depression, and even make your breasts larger, yet is simultaneously so weak and ineffectual that literally anyone can do it, and no matter how unskilled, untrained, ignorant and/or abusive the practitioner is, he or she is "mostly harmless."

In Jurassic Park, the book not the movie, Dr. Malcolm observes that the difference between a gun and a black belt in karate is that anybody can pick up a gun and shoot somebody with it, but by the time a person acquires the ability to kill someone with their bare hands, they will probably have acquired the discipline not to do it if it's not necessary.

While of course the metaphor is not perfect - it's quite possible to hit somebody clumsily and kill them entirely by accident, it's just really unlikely -I have heard it observed that by the time a person knows enough about hypnotherapy to really mess somebody up with it, they know enough about hypnotherapy not to do it. A person who intends to do harm, of course, will do so no matter what obstacles you put in his way.

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Permalink Reply by April Braswell on November 28, 2011 at 3:19pm

I am actually very glad that hypnosis is so free from regulation, and certainly in oft over-regulated California.

What I cover with clients is about my years of experience, and how getting certified added layers of professional ethics. I share a few particular stories which I won't go into. My whole professional background (Fortune 50 companies, top 10 college) combine to be part of the value I bring to clients, and is reflected also in my fees which are more than a Massage Therapist or Manicurist (the hypnotists who are perhaps both young and inexperienced level of $40 p/hour fees).

I love how open hypnosis is. And then we also learn to choose and decide for ourselves who we want to work with.

This is a great conversation/discussion topic. Even though I am not agreeing with all you are concerned about, James, I certainly mean no disrespect in my response.

Cheers!

Happy Hypno Holidays to you all,

April Braswell

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Permalink Reply by Brian David Phillips on November 28, 2011 at 11:11pm

Agreeing with Richard Nongard, the certificate is clearly a gag gift and NOT intended for anyone to take seriously. There are folks who run diploma mills but this is not one.

This in no way means that those with a concern regarding general competencies are not without merit in their arguments, it's just that this particular item should not be confused with someone who is selling a certificate intended to commit fraud with.

I have a Doctorate from Arkham University and an old Blue Blaze Irregulars membership card. I used to have a KISS Army Membership card as well, long long ago when my musical tastes were not what they are today. No one takes them seriously, nor do I . . . but I am rather happy to have the beasties.

- Brian

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Permalink Reply by Richard Rumble on November 29, 2011 at 10:12am

I was cleaning out my Garage.... just found my certificates from the Pacific Universial Life Church... I have a Ph.d in Metaphysics as well as I am a Doctor of Hypnotherapy AND I am a Minister of GAWD...( said with a heavy southern preacher accent...)

the right reverend richard rumble....

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Permalink Reply by April Braswell on November 29, 2011 at 1:17pm

Lol, Richard, to be the Right Reverand, that requires you be an installed Bishop. :-) Although you CAN be now both Reverend and right! lol

Richard Rumble said:

I was cleaning out my Garage.... just found my certificates from the Pacific Universial Life Church... I have a Ph.d in Metaphysics as well as I am a Doctor of Hypnotherapy AND I am a Minister of GAWD...( said with a heavy southern preacher accent...)

the right reverend richard rumble....