Would the memories be accurate?

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Permalink Reply by docregal.com on April 20, 2011 at 5:05am

Perhaps this reframe idea will be helpful to you and others, Henxy. If you are posting in anything other than a happy frame of mind, wait and think about "what" you would like to communicate, "how" you are communicating it and "why" if ever it needs to be communicated in that particular way. As you are clear on your emotional state, I assert then is the best time to post a conflicting comment such that that the tonality of your words will still come across as friendly and only challenging.

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Permalink Reply by bruce on April 20, 2011 at 5:45am

Gosh doc, I gotta agree with Henxy, you are patronizing.

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on April 20, 2011 at 6:26am

Thanks, Bruce.

bruce said:

Gosh doc, I gotta agree with Henxy, you are patronizing.

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Permalink Reply by Henxy on April 20, 2011 at 6:26am

Perhaps you should teach by example?

docregal.com said:

Perhaps this reframe idea will be helpful to you and others, Henxy. If you are posting in anything other than a happy frame of mind, wait and think about "what" you would like to communicate, "how" you are communicating it and "why" if ever it needs to be communicated in that particular way. As you are clear on your emotional state, I assert then is the best time to post a conflicting comment such that that the tonality of your words will still come across as friendly and only challenging.

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Permalink Reply by Laura Rude' on April 20, 2011 at 7:27am

Thank you all for your input. I was of the opinion the memories would be subjective, and it was nice to get all of your opinions, too.  Love the point that Blair makes about memories of ourselves in the 3rd person.  It really makes me realize how memory and imagination are, as she stated, so interconnected.

 

Michael - it was great meeting you, too!  The seminar you and Scott put on was A+!

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Stephanie Conkle on April 20, 2011 at 7:54am

So the real issue here is that someone had his/her feelings hurt by the other sibling. (It's not about the money per se.) This is blocking the truth.   

 

Sometimes it is necessary for me to do regression work which leads the client into past memories. Memories are high emotional states. (Because details can be inaccurate when the hypnosis is not conducted properly, hypnotic recall is not permissible in a court of law any more.)  However, when the feeling is cleared, a "breakthrough" happens and the mind becomes much clearer to what actually happened in that particular moment. I always build in an ideomotor response to warn me if the client is being truthful in his or her recall. If not, we figure out the secondary gain for the "lie" if we have time, or I simply ask for truth. Usually more clearing work is needed first.  

 

So you actually could do that "experiment" and get the truth from both sides, as long as you have been properly trained in regression hypnosis on how to elicit the truth. Now, would it be practical in your case? What they will find out about themselves and their relationship with each other (and mother) would be way more beneficial than figuring out who owed whom money. They could actually become closer to one another and have good feelings restored.   

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Permalink Reply by Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com on April 20, 2011 at 11:26am

"What the mind can't recall, the imagination will create..."

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Permalink Reply by docregal.com on April 20, 2011 at 1:57pm

Could not have been said any better, Richard.

Richard Nongard - NLPBoard.com said:

"What the mind can't recall, the imagination will create..."

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Permalink Reply by Marx Howell on January 1, 2012 at 9:34am

Using hypnosis for the purpose of refreshing memory of a past event may be helpful in reconstructing what occurred.  However, it is imperative that appropriate memory retrieval techniques be used after the person is in hypnosis.  There are appropriate techniques and inappropriate techniques which can cause contamination of one's memory or confabulation.  When using hypnosis for memory recall, you may get accurate information, inaccurate information or a combination of both.  That is why corroboration is important to validate the recalled information.  Hypnotically refreshed recall, standing alone, is not sufficient to determine the truth of what occurred.  Courts accepting hypnotically refreshed recall require some corroboration.  Some states accept the use of hypnosis with victims and witnesses to crime and some do not.  If you are interested in additional information on refreshing memory with hypnosis, visit www.marxhowell.com. Hypnotically refreshed recall is admissible in all 50 states when it is employed by the defense with a defendant.  Inspector Marx Howell, retired Texas State Police.   

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Permalink Reply by Marx Howell on January 1, 2012 at 9:35am

Using hypnosis for the purpose of refreshing memory of a past event may be helpful in reconstructing what occurred.  However, it is imperative that appropriate memory retrieval techniques be used after the person is in hypnosis.  There are appropriate techniques and inappropriate techniques which can cause contamination of one's memory or confabulation.  When using hypnosis for memory recall, you may get accurate information, inaccurate information or a combination of both.  That is why corroboration is important to validate the recalled information.  Hypnotically refreshed recall, standing alone, is not sufficient to determine the truth of what occurred.  Courts accepting hypnotically refreshed recall require some corroboration.  Some states accept the use of hypnosis with victims and witnesses to crime and some do not.  If you are interested in additional information on refreshing memory with hypnosis, visit www.marxhowell.com. Hypnotically refreshed recall is admissible in all 50 states when it is employed by the defense with a defendant.  Inspector Marx Howell, retired Texas State Police. 

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Permalink Reply by Barry Neale on January 1, 2012 at 10:01am

The accuracy of anyone's memory, even that of a memory champion is just an interpretation of what a person "thinks" happened. Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (I wish I could pronounce that!) in the book Flow says that at any one time we are being bombarded with 2.3 million bits of information and obviously we can't be conscious of all of that. So we delete, distort and generalise and according to some we are left with about 7+/- 2 bits of information.

If this is so then this is why you can get two people remembering a totally different version of the same event. How could you know if the other person is focusing on the same 7+/- 2 that you are? Even if they were they could interpret them differently based on their beliefs.

 

Some years ago I was doing a couples therapy demo at seminar and I  had one party claiming that the other said something that they didn't say. 40 people in the room agreed that the person didn't say it but the accuser was adamant. Fortunately the seminar was being videod. It was only when I got the videographer to rewind the video did the person finally admit they had made a mistake. And that was within minutes of the event!

 

Personally I think it would be easier to find why it's important for them to find it out and what that will do for them and then negotiate from there like you would with parts therapy.

It makes you wonder if it was that important why have they waited 11 years to try to find out.

 

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Permalink Reply by Melissa Tiers on January 1, 2012 at 10:03am

Richard posted some great posts on some of the latest memory research in the discussion on regression therapy. You might want to check it out. The myth of accuracy in memory is persistent...

-Melissa

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